Can you recommend a dash-cam?

Discussion in 'General Dash Cam Discussion' started by FernyVR4, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. FernyVR4

    FernyVR4 New Member

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    Hi there.

    I'm in the middle of purchasing a new vehicle, and since this one will be my precious [/gollum], I've decided that a dash-cam would be a worthwhile investment.

    Must-have-features:
    -built-in GPS, no external antennae or cords other than power
    -at least 720p video quality @ 30fps (somewhat flexible)
    -small form factor; to be placed behind rearview mirror
    -integrated mic

    Bonus:(these would be nice, though not a deal-breaker)
    -ability to hardwire into fuse box (12V)
    -Dual camera
    -G-sensor
    -parked mode

    As this is something intended to break the tie between my word and someone else's, or to catch someone abusing the car while I'm not around, I'm looking for something I can set and forget until I need it.

    These are what I was looking at prior to finding this forum:
    http://www.spytechs.com/Car-Cameras/dual-view-cam.htm
    http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/produ ... +camera.do
    http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/produ ... car+cam.do
    But while they have most of the feature set I'm looking for, unfortunately the video quality leaves something to be desired. That, and from what I've read, Brickhouse is not to be trusted.

    I won't say cost is no object, but it's not really a major consideration at the moment. I don't like buying junk, and will spend what is necessary to get something good.

    What can you guys recommend? Is there anything that would fit me better than the http://dashcamtalk.com/itronics-itb-100hd/?

    Appreciate your advice!

    -Andrew
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  2. DashCamMan

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    Hi FernyVR4,

    Looking at the cameras you listed here is my feedback:

    1. DR200
    The resolution of 640 x 480 resolution at 15 frames per second is horrible and I imagine the videos are poor. With HD cameras available for under $100, no need to waste time on something with poor resolution. $270 is way too expensive.

    2. View-I Dual Car Cam
    I can't find much info on this camera. However, they do not mention resolution so I imagine it is not HD. Also the $250 price tag is too high.

    3. Dual View HD Cam
    This is just the F20 dual car cam that sells for about $70 on Aliexpress. So $150 is just way to expensive as well. I haven't read anything exceptional on this camera either.

    All 3 cameras have the rear camera in the same unit as the front camera. This is ok if you want to record what is going on in the car (i.e. taxi driver) but very poor at recording what is going on behind the car due to the different light levels inside and outside the car. You can see the AGPtek GD26 review from spaceballsrules to understand what I am referring to.

    For dual cam, you really should get a separate camera mounted on the rear window to get a reasonable picture.

    As for your criteria.
    The 2 cameras that come to mind that meet all of your criteria (except the dual camera criteria) are the Itronics ITB-100HD and the BlackVue DR400G-HD II. The DR400G-HD II is a gamble due to the reliability issues reported. Also it is more expensive than the Itronics. The Itronics is only 24fps but if you watch some of the videos, the quality is still very good. I would choose the Itronics for the primary camera given what you are looking for.

    I would suggest buying your front camera first than using it for a while that way you will know what features you need or may have missed out on. Then you can purchase another camera for the back (or move the first camera to the back and buy a new one for the front) since the dual cameras typically do not have all the features you are looking for.

    Dash Cam Man
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    Thanks DCM.

    I had the nagging feeling that those dash-cams were ripoffs, but until I found this site I really had no yardstick by which to measure them. It wasn't until I saw video coming from a good quality dash-cam that I realized how piss-poor those 3 options really were.

    The reason I was originally looking for a dual-camera dashcam was more to record occupants of the car than to see anything significant out of the rear window. I guess, in hindsight, it was a knee-jerk reaction to reading about this: http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/ ... 07580.html

    Based on your recommendation and previous reviews I've read, I'll probably go with the Itronics. That being said, I do find it odd that there seem to be no 'major' electronics makers in this market. Typical large manufacturers of cameras, webcams, gps devices, etc, are nowhere to be found. In addition to that, most of these products aren't even marketed in this country. Try buying a dash-cam at Best Buy, I think there's only one offered, the AGPTek. Even Newegg only has a couple. I wonder why that is...?

    Anyways, thanks again.

    -Andrew
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  4. DashCamMan

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    Hi Andrew,

    I think with a front facing dash cam and audio recorded, that should be good enough in capturing most events of someone abusing a car.

    As for the major electronics makers not being in this market, this is due to demand. There is not much demand for dash cams in the United States yet, the largest consumer electronics market in the world. While popular in Russia and some Asian countries such as Singapore, dash cams sales are still a small / niche market in most countries. If dash cams do catch on, I'm sure most of the big manufacturers will enter and you will see more marketing for dash cams in the US.

    Note that some GPS device makers are in this market already but they primarily sell in Asian countries.

    Garmin in Taiwan sells Dash Cams
    Hyundai MnSOFT sells Dash Cams as well

    Dash Cam Man
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  5. FernyVR4

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    Interesting. My ability to translate Korean is non-existent, but it seems that both of those cameras by Hyundai are around $300. Definitely pricey for what you're getting.

    I'm surprised that dash-cams haven't caught on in the US yet, considering we're such a litigious nation, and a dashcam will go a long way to cover your ass.

    I assume this one would be a good one to purchase? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ITRONICS-ITB-10 ... 3ccb62b9d0

    In addition, I know virtually nothing about flash memory outside of computer RAM. Would this flash memory be appropriate? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 12K0B21514

    Thanks for your help.

    Andrew
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    Hi Andrew,

    Apple-CT is a pretty reputable vendor of the ITB-100HD and they have sold a lot. However, apple-ct has dropped the price on another listing.

    $176 for the ITB-100HD
    and
    $40 for Uninterrupted Power Cable

    for a total of $216. The only difference with the package deal is that the package comes with EMS shipping instead of "standard shipping".

    Note that Itronics ITB-100HD comes with a 8GB SD card. I'm not an expert on SD cards but if you choose a class 10 SD-card from a good manufacturer (SanDisk, Transcend, Kingston, Verbatim, Silicon Power) you should be ok. Not sure on how Samsung ranks.

    Dash Cam Man
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