Infected Less Those who die from the infection ..' = %
Obviously those figures are bogus ( I already said that ) , because unless you test 100% of the people . One is only guessing !
Anyone able to predict election results from 1% of the results ?
They are still discovering people who died as a result of Covid 19 ( Reasons for death other than the usual reason )
And I have watched a few documentaries on the Spanish Flue .
If you go down that road , be prepared to dig large pits for mass graves .
Quite a lot of insight my friend
From the beginning of this mess I've consistently called for 100% testing for this very reason, yet even after explaining it some people still just don't get it
Science is based on hard facts with all the data being verified as far as it is possible to do. We CAN test at nearly 100%, missing only those people who don't want to be located and tested so much that they're willing to endure great hardships just to avoid it. THAT is the level we need to reach to apply science to this- and damn few people in power are calling for or doing this
We are dealing with something which we still don't have any proof that it might end up killing us all, so until we're certain that will not happen we need that 100% testing. (And before anyone jumps in and says it's not going to kill us all I demand hat you show
absolute proof of that. Post-disease immunity may be too short lived, may not be effective against strain variations, or may not exist at all.
We still don't know and only the gathering of all possible solid verifiable data can get us anywhere close to the knowledge level we need.)
Even before Covid-19 showed up (and indeed even before I got online) I had an interest in and I studied the 'Spanish Flu' pandemic. Where I once lived there was a short paved driveway or road to an old building; the partial foundation was all that was left. Walking my dog, we went there to have a look around. Behind it was a still-traveled path which intrigued us so we took it. Maybe 50 feet on there was a near-derelict cemetery, which in itself isn't all that unusual here as this was once a rural area and small 'family' cemeteries are fairly common here. But on looking at the weathered headstones it struck me as odd that
most of the dates of death were 1918, and many of the birth dates showed that the large majority of these were infants Here's a
LINK to look at
. What isn't mentioned in there is that apparently many of these 1918 graves were of people who were not connected to that church, which I learned through local folklore and in talking with some elderly people who had always lived in the area. It seems that many of the general population did not trust what the medical people were telling them, and they believed that the dead bodies might still somehow transmit the disease so they did not want them buried in the town's cemeteries- instead they chose this one since at the time it was the furthest one from town you could get to in practicality. And as local folklore has it, the reason the church faded away was because many of it's members were afraid to go there because they might catch the disease, and they began attending services elsewhere. I haven't seen the place in decades; the pics in my link were taken some years after I was there and it's in much better shape than when I found it. There is much development going on there now and as I understand it there has been talk of exhuming the bodies and moving them elsewhere so the plot can be put to 'better use'. There is some resistance to that because many of the headstones and markers have been moved, vandalized, or are no longer identifiable and there is a certainty that there are many more graves than markers indicate, and they are not arranged in such a way as to know for sure where they might be. Thus any digging will have to be done by hand and carefully for fear of destroying someone's remains which will be a costly endeavor. There are also some families whose relatives are buried there fighting against the removal legally with the weight of State law heavily on their side. I'm sure that in the end the greedy developers will win
And once I got online I of course revisited the topic, and in trying to find out more about the cemetery I became intrigued with that pandemic, of which there is much said here on the web about it. Mass grave pits are not an exaggeration- they happened. Entire towns and villages faded away becaise of that pandemic when so many people died that there were not enough left to sustain the community. In much the same way entire extended families were nearly wiped out, and numerous family farms came to the same fate.
If we didn't 'flatten the curve' and have ventilators and modern medicine on our side (options not available in 1918) we would at this very moment be seeing something very close to that. In places like N. Korea where we can't know or trust news reports, this kind of thing may actually be occurring
That pandemic had 2-3 'waves' almost all over the world; again something which could happen here with Covid-19. And we now know that there were mutations and variations with that flu which we've already found with Covid-19 too. Further remember that back then, the World War had ravaged every Nations economy. Many thousands of troops were returning home, needing jobs when they arrived, and the economy-sustaining wartime industry was gone exacerbating that situation. It was especially bad in Germany; to be expected on the losing side of any large war. Yet if we look a decade further on, we see save for Germany etal, the world was apparently prospering like never before
So that pandemic, even as bad as it was and being much bigger than Covid-19 in every way, did not have any real long-term economic repercussions.
Which we should take note of with this pandemic and the ones who are claiming that we will get the opposite result this time 'round. The things which brought on the Great Depression after the Spanish Flu pandemic really had no direct relation to it, so why would we see a different effect now with Covid-19? I don't think we would, but I'm not going to get the chance to see about that as the decisions being made on how to handle this are not going to allow any future general prosperity to happen. For sure there will be some short-term suffering which is really unavoidable and it will be extreme to some people. I don't see any way to avoid that; it is the lot of humanity in toto where the poor and weak always suffer
But we need to know and understand that any long-term economic repercussions from Covid-19 will not have been caused by the disease but by how it was handled. More to the point by
who was handling it. Even with their understandable lack of knowledge, most of the measures taken against the Spanish Flu pandemic were mainly led by Medical professionals, not so much politicians as we're getting now.
The parallels of these two pandemics is strikingly similar in many ways. What is also striking is for almost all our nation's leaders to have not learned from the past. And TBH I cannot see how with such blindness already in control and leading our collective destinies that after Covid-19 is done that we're going to use what we learn from it wisely either. Given what we now know about Covid-19 I doubt it will end humanity directly or through economic hardship, but there's going to be a 'next time' and whatever disease brings that about might not be as easy on us as these two have been- not that it's been easy at all- but that thought needs consideration.
Phil
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