Vantrue S1 Pro Max coming soon (Pre-orders now live!, shipping after July 1st 2025)

Likely it will have cloud
Definitely cloud,.wouldn't make sense if it didn't. I find it interesting that they backporting a lot of this ADAS to the original S1 Pro, but I suppose it makes sense because it was the guinea pig model for a few things
 
Likely it will have cloud
adas bsd
Definitely cloud,.wouldn't make sense if it didn't. I find it interesting that they backporting a lot of this ADAS to the original S1 Pro, but I suppose it makes sense because it was the guinea pig model for a few things
vueriod d21 4k have. this back adas
 
Didn't pick up on that, wow perhaps imx678 at the back too! Good find 🙂
The IMX678 is a big sensor, which needs a big lens, which needs a big rear camera...

Is the rear camera larger than normal, or have they used a smaller 4K sensor like the IMX415?

Presumably, to get the BSD to work, it needs a fisheye lens on the rear sensor? So having 4K may not mean more pixels per licence plate, it may just mean a very wide angle image so that it can view the blind spots...

Given that you don't have headlamps on the rear of cars, a low resolution sensor with big pixels is very good for the dark, this appears to be going in the other direction, it will interesting to see the results...
 
The IMX678 is a big sensor, which needs a big lens, which needs a big rear camera...

Is the rear camera larger than normal, or have they used a smaller 4K sensor like the IMX415?

Presumably, to get the BSD to work, it needs a fisheye lens on the rear sensor? So having 4K may not mean more pixels per licence plate, it may just mean a very wide angle image so that it can view the blind spots...

Given that you don't have headlamps on the rear of cars, a low resolution sensor with big pixels is very good for the dark, this appears to be going in the other direction, it will interesting to see the results...
Won't have the answers until it's properly announced so won't know for sure. Either way, it's not going to work nowhere near as reliably as what inbuilt vehicle systems do, but if they can get it working some of the time then its a stop gap of sorts for people who don't have newer vehicles.
 
Won't have the answers until it's properly announced so won't know for sure. Either way, it's not going to work nowhere near as reliably as what inbuilt vehicle systems do, but if they can get it working some of the time then its a stop gap of sorts for people who don't have newer vehicles.
Too bad people don't understand that not having ADAS is a good thing 😀
They are transforming driving into hell, with beeps and steering wheel ajustments that are even sometimes dangerous...
 
Too bad people don't understand that not having ADAS is a good thing 😀
They are transforming driving into hell, with beeps and steering wheel ajustments that are even sometimes dangerous...
The positive is that at least dashcam doesn't have the in vehicle integration to throw you into other lanes lol like you say proper ADAS can do. Don't get me started on sunrise and sunset if I'm into a narrow slip lane my car likes to throw me into the other lane lol

As a marketing thing will guess it has to be done to keep up with the competition, so I totally get that. Practicality wise, well not my cup of tea
 
As a marketing thing will guess it has to be done to keep up with the competition, so I totally get that. Practicality wise, well not my cup of tea
So far, I've not found any ADAS features on a dashcam to be useful, but the blind spot monitoring is a function that would be useful, if it was 100% accurate. The problem is that people who use it will start to trust it, so if it is not 100% reliable, it could be worse than not useful! If they don't trust it, then they won't use it, so it will be another pointless ADAS feature. BSoD?

I assume the DMS systems do actually reduce accidents, although I notice that the Vantrue brochure image for DMS shows a family wide awake and posing for the camera while driving along a sandy beach, wearing sunglasses. DMS systems tend not to work if you wear sunglasses because they can't see if your eyes are open or closed! Whoever tests this feature is going to have to copy the brochure and wear sunglasses...

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So far, I've not found any ADAS features on a dashcam to be useful, but the blind spot monitoring is a function that would be useful, if it was 100% accurate. The problem is that people who use it will start to trust it, so if it is not 100% reliable, it could be worse than not useful! If they don't trust it, then they won't use it, so it will be another pointless ADAS feature. BSoD?

I assume the DMS systems do actually reduce accidents, although I notice that the Vantrue brochure image for DMS shows a family wide awake and posing for the camera while driving along a sandy beach, wearing sunglasses. DMS systems tend not to work if you wear sunglasses because they can't see if your eyes are open or closed! Whoever tests this feature is going to have to copy the brochure and wear sunglasses...

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I doubt it would be accurate for blind spot detection unfortunately, nothing like what is in car natively.

I haven't found the driver fatigue features useful in my car at all, so don't think it will be handy here either. Again i wonder about false positives.
 
I haven't found the driver fatigue features useful in my car at all, so don't think it will be handy here either. Again i wonder about false positives.
I hope that nobody drives when they are asleep, but reality is that many people do once or twice in their lives, and some people have a genuine problem with falling asleep, which it is not their fault. It only needs to work once to save lives, but it does need to work, and a little beeping isn't necessarily going to solve the problem, which is why these systems should be built into the vehicle, so that the vehicle can bring itself to a safe stop if necessary.

Of course some people just want it to keep them awake, and with no connection to the car, they will use it to keep driving when they should have stopped, and that could actually be worse than not having it, since they wont stop until they are properly asleep instead of stopping when they are only half asleep!
 
I doubt it would be accurate for blind spot detection unfortunately, nothing like what is in car natively.
With the AI processors built into recent Novatek SoCs, it should be fairly easy for them to track cars approaching from behind, and warn you when one is passing. The problem will be if someone sits beside you, in your blind spot for an extended time, a rear facing camera may find it hard to detect them, especially if they come in from a slip road and stay in the camera's blind spot all the way. My car has a rear window that is curved enough for a fisheye lens to see that car in the blindspot; the other car I have here has a pretty flat rear window, I don't see how the camera could see a vehicle in the blind spot, it could only watch vehicles entering it, which would be helpful, but also dangerous if you rely on it.
 
With the AI processors built into recent Novatek SoCs, it should be fairly easy for them to track cars approaching from behind, and warn you when one is passing. The problem will be if someone sits beside you, in your blind spot for an extended time, a rear facing camera may find it hard to detect them, especially if they come in from a slip road and stay in the camera's blind spot all the way. My car has a rear window that is curved enough for a fisheye lens to see that car in the blindspot; the other car I have here has a pretty flat rear window, I don't see how the camera could see a vehicle in the blind spot, it could only watch vehicles entering it, which would be helpful, but also dangerous if you rely on it.
My point exactly. Better to depend on the inbuilt blind spot detection like my vehicle has, rather than limited abilities dashcams have. That may change in future but I don't think that future is here yet
 
My point exactly. Better to depend on the inbuilt blind spot detection like my vehicle has, rather than limited abilities dashcams have. That may change in future but I don't think that future is here yet
I think the future will be that all vehicles will leave the factory with a blind spot warning system, at least in the developed world, so there will be no need for the feature in aftermarket dashcams. We have laws requiring mirrors, which need to be updated for electronic mirrors; blind spot coverage on new vehicles could easily become mandatory, since it can clearly save lives.
 
I think the future will be that all vehicles will leave the factory with a blind spot warning system, at least in the developed world, so there will be no need for the feature in aftermarket dashcams. We have laws requiring mirrors, which need to be updated for electronic mirrors; blind spot coverage on new vehicles could easily become mandatory, since it can clearly save lives.
It already has here in Australia at least and a few other countries I know of. These are mandatory under design regulations. It will just become the norm
 
It already has here in Australia at least and a few other countries I know of. These are mandatory under design regulations. It will just become the norm
I assume most of the factory fitted blind spot systems use radar, as in:

Which only detect vehicles currently alongside you, so a rear dashcam warning of a fast approaching police car that you are going to hit if you pull out to overtake, even though it is currently not there, might still be useful...
 
I assume most of the factory fitted blind spot systems use radar, as in:

Which only detect vehicles currently alongside you, so a rear dashcam warning of a fast approaching police car that you are going to hit if you pull out to overtake, even though it is currently not there, might still be useful...
Well I never use blind spot by itself I actually use my side mirrors to check that there's no one coming as well. That situation you speak of is pretty pretty rare, so someone would have to not be checking their rearview mirrors and not checking their side mirrors.
 
Blind spot and rear cross traffic detectors are fantastic.
 
Honda had the best blind spot system that I know of. They had an actual camera as part of the passenger side mirror for when you were doing LH turns (Aust.), pity they never incorporated one into the RH mirror. The camera was projected onto the Infotainment Screen.

Sadly they have dropped that idea from their latest vehicles. 😡😡
 
There has been some more updates to the Vantrue APP in the Google Play Store:



The latest version is now 2.1.01 and brings the following improvements:

- Modify known bugs
- Optimise the process of activating devices
- Add new APP functions


As you can see in the screenshots below, there is a new Community tab which doesn't have much at the moment but there is a direct Service tab. Also apparent in the app is the new activation process for Vantrue Intelligence, which will be making its debut in the older S1 Pro and the upcoming S1 Pro Max.

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The IMX678 is a big sensor, which needs a big lens, which needs a big rear camera...

Is the rear camera larger than normal, or have they used a smaller 4K sensor like the IMX415?

Presumably, to get the BSD to work, it needs a fisheye lens on the rear sensor? So having 4K may not mean more pixels per licence plate, it may just mean a very wide angle image so that it can view the blind spots...

Given that you don't have headlamps on the rear of cars, a low resolution sensor with big pixels is very good for the dark, this appears to be going in the other direction, it will interesting to see the results...
70mai T800 has been announced which has the RC41 unit that uses the IMX678. From photos in the post here it doesn't look too much bigger than what may be mounted for existing rear RC-numbered sensors: https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threa...ior-1080p-three-channel-hdr.52864/post-640473

Sometimes brands share the same RC-numbered rear units so wouldn't be surprised if Vantrue did pull off a proper 4k rear with imx678 and not older imx415
 
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