A329. What is this?

Vortex Radar said:
The super night vision for the 1fps timelapse parking recording definitely makes a big difference. Check this out parked in a dark culdesac...

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I'm also seeing a weird flickering when driving at 4K60 at night where the frame quickly bounces between blue and orange. It kind of reminds me of what I saw with the A139 Pro. 4K30 HDR looks much more natural, exposure and color-wise.
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Very nice, reminds me of night mode on phone cameras but that's a big jump in visibility
 
Vortex Radar said:
Great questions. Still actively testing while I put together the video, but here's some datapoints.
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But I’m craving info now. Lol
Vortex Radar said:
The super night vision for the 1fps timelapse parking recording definitely makes a big difference. Check this out parked in a dark culdesac...
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Why are they bothering with an additional “night vision” for parking mode?
Is it because when the car is off, and the camera is in parking mode you don’t have the benefit of headlights?
Are they just cranking up the exposure / brightness?
Vortex Radar said:
I'm also seeing a weird flickering when driving at 4K60 at night where the frame quickly bounces between blue and orange. It kind of reminds me of what I saw with the A139 Pro. 4K30 HDR looks much more natural, exposure and color-wise.
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$64,000 Question:
1.) Is night time HDR performance 100% functional / acceptable?
2.) Is night time HDR performance better than;
A229 Pro
A139 Pro
A119 Mini 2
 
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Vortex Radar said:
The super night vision for the 1fps timelapse parking recording definitely makes a big difference. Check this out parked in a dark culdesac...

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Looks similar to the results I was getting with my beta low-light camera in 1fps mode.

I assume there's a fair amount of motion blur in this mode? If so, it's useful to see what's going on around the car and you can tell the difference between a black car and a blue one, but finer details like faces or moving number plates are harder to see.
 
Vortex Radar said:
The super night vision for the 1fps timelapse parking recording definitely makes a big difference. Check this out parked in a dark culdesac...

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I'm also seeing a weird flickering when driving at 4K60 at night where the frame quickly bounces between blue and orange. It kind of reminds me of what I saw with the A139 Pro. 4K30 HDR looks much more natural, exposure and color-wise.
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is the super night vision time lapse better current draw?
 
Panzer Platform said:
$64,000 Question:
1.) Is night time HDR performance 100% functional / acceptable?
2.) Is night time HDR performance better than;
A229 Pro
A139 Pro
A119 Mini 2
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I've mostly been testing the 60fps option since that's the whizbang new feature. I've also done some 30fps HDR testing and definitely prefer it, but I haven't done a bunch of head-to-head comparisons with other models besides the A229 Pro. I'm sure people will be doing more of those comparisons as the A329's start rolling out.
TonyM said:
Looks similar to the results I was getting with my beta low-light camera in 1fps mode.

I assume there's a fair amount of motion blur in this mode? If so, it's useful to see what's going on around the car and you can tell the difference between a black car and a blue one, but finer details like faces or moving number plates are harder to see.
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Yeah, I asked about it and they said they're achieving this by reducing the fps in this mode which I presume to mean longer exposures per frame which would lead to more motion blur. I'm very limited in my ability to do night time testing at the moment, but this would definitely be something to check out.
safedrivesolutions said:
is the super night vision time lapse better current draw?
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Yep! Looks like SNV draws nearly 30% less power than regular TL 1fps. Check out @rcg530's testing:

rcg530

Post in thread 'VIOFO A329 2CH - Testing / Review - RCG'

A329 2CH Power Consumption Testing

Please keep in mind that the A329 2CH dash camera I used for my testing is a pre-production/prototype unit. There may be optimizations made in the hardware or firmware (after v1.0_240830) that may impact the power consumption test results.

The A329 supports writing new video files to an external USB-C memory device (primarily a Portable SSD). The A329 must provide power to the external storage device which of course will increase the power consumption of the A329 when configured in that manner. I have two rows for each video/test configuration so I...
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Vortex Radar said:
I'm very limited in my ability to do night time testing at the moment,
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You could drive Bill crazy with a flashlight in your garage. lol
With any luck I'll have a retail version test unit tracking number in 14 days.
Anything different with rear camera image quality wise, or is it the same as A229 Pro?
 
Vortex Radar said:
When running at the max bitrate, it's always 65.5 Mb/s on the front cam. This applies to both 4K60 and 4K30 HDR, 1CH and 2CH. There's no performance gain or drop when switching between 1CH or 2CH.
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I take this back. I'm looking through some sample footage on an earlier firmware and I've got some 4K60 footage at 97.5 Mb/s, but testing on the latest firmware I was sent, I'm not seeing anything above 65.

@viofo What are your thoughts on and plans for ~100 Mb/s videos?
 
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Panzer Platform said:
Anything different with rear camera image quality wise, or is it the same as A229 Pro?
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I haven't done as much with the rear cam, especially given that I've been testing with a CPL on the rear of the A329, but not on the A229 Pro. I've mainly been focusing on the front cam. There's always more questions and more things to test, lol.
 
Vortex Radar said:
I take this back. I'm looking through some sample footage on an earlier firmware and I've got some 4K60 footage at 97.5 Mb/s, but testing on the latest firmware I was sent, I'm not seeing anything above 65.
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The first few July 2024 A329 firmware versions created 97.5 Mbps 4K 60fps front camera video files. Firmware v1.0_240802 and later creates 65.5 Mbps 4K 60fps & 4K 30fps front video files and 27.0 Mbps 2K 30fps rear video files.
 
Vortex Radar said:
I take this back. I'm looking through some sample footage on an earlier firmware and I've got some 4K60 footage at 97.5 Mb/s, but testing on the latest firmware I was sent, I'm not seeing anything above 65.

@viofo What are your thoughts on and plans for ~100 Mb/s videos?
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File sizes and heat, but I'd say mostly heat.

The newer processor may help things but it's still based on an ancient architecture - at least we have ventilation for cooling unlike e.g. earlier action cameras that were pushing out 100mb/S 4k videos that were extremely hot to the touch and prone to overheating.

Would be nice to see Viofo push for high bitrates but I suspect reliability would come first.
 
Agie said:
...but I suspect reliability would come first.
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As it should for a dash cam the primary purpose of which is to capture video evidence, not produce cinema quality video.
 
65 is adequate for most people (other than testers who seek more where possible) and most users won't even know what bitrate even is anyway.
 
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DT MI said:
As it should for a dash cam the primary purpose of which is to capture video evidence, not produce cinema quality video.
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Dashcam video would never be cinema quality lol, lot more goes into that with colour grading etc haha
 
Vortex Radar said:
looking through some sample footage on an earlier firmware and I've got some 4K60 footage at 97.5 Mb/s
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viofo said:
we turned down the bitrate in the recent version
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Why can’t we have 97.5Mbps Bitrate for 1-CH configuration?
And drop it to 65Mbps in 2-CH configuration.
Especially since there are 4 Bitrate settings for the user;
Maximum
High
Normal
Low
Pretty please with sugar on top.
 
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Panzer Platform said:
Why can’t we have 97.5Mbps Bitrate for 1-CH configuration?
And drop it to 65Mbps in 2-CH configuration.
Especially since there are 4 Bitrate settings for the user;
Maximum
High
Normal
Low
Pretty please with sugar on top.
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Guarantee you it's because of heat. For those that are not well versed in the cell phone world, it's woefully inefficient and ran pretty hot. It just won't last at ~100MB/sec sustained workload.
 
Agie said:
Guarantee you it's because of heat. For those that are not well versed in the cell phone world, it's woefully inefficient and ran pretty hot. It just won't last at ~100MB/sec sustained workload.
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I don't understand.
If the front channel is 65Mbps, and the rear channel is 27Mbps that is a total of 92Mbps in 2-CH configuration.
So it's capable of sustaining 92Mbps in 1-CH configuration.
Am I wrong?
 
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