Dashcam for desert living

kamkar1 said:
I wonder if this work with kids then ?
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here in the US, in most states that doesnt fly either.
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florida for example, you're allowed to leave a child, under 6, of whom you are a guardian or parent, unattended in a motor vehicle for upto 15 minutes. if the car is running, that same child, cannot be left unattended/supervised at all

we have had more than a few instances where mom just ran in to get some milk, or lottery ticket, or what have you; and the child becomes unbuckled, moves the transmission into gear and now you have much bigger problems.
 
I think it might fly in Denmark, but we also park infant kids in their pram on the sidewalk and then go shopping or on cafe, and no, the one and only kid napping i can recall are 40 - 50 years old.
Actually if people come past a crying child in a pram, they will probably go in search of the mother so she can do her thing.
And normally moms park their kid outside where she is, so should not take a Sherlock Holmes to find her.

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I know that is a Danish tradition that freak out many Americans.

Some cafes ASO are also planning for larger windows, cuz the American "paranoia" are also rubbing on on Danish parents, though there are no really valid reason for this.

We also let our 6-7 year old child bicycle alone to and from school in traffic, and we dont need special school bus traffic rules, cuz kids know to wait until the bus have left, and then look to both sides before crossing the road.

But let a Danish kid aged 16 drive a car, even after having passed a test :eek: that barely work when they are 18 and really i think Danish kids should wait until they are 21, cuz they appear that stupid.
Actually today a kid got his license taken for a 100 % over speed violation in his brand new car he got 2 days ago,,,,,, will be a while before he can retake the license and use that car.
 
kamkar1 said:
I think it might fly in Denmark, but we also park infant kids in their pram on the sidewalk and then go shopping or on cafe, and no, the one and only kid napping i can recall are 40 - 50 years old.
Actually if people come past a crying child in a pram, they will probably go in search of the mother so she can do her thing.
And normally moms park their kid outside where she is, so should not take a Sherlock Holmes to find her.

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I know that is a Danish tradition that freak out many Americans.

Some cafes ASO are also planning for larger windows, cuz the American "paranoia" are also rubbing on on Danish parents, though there are no really valid reason for this.

We also let our 6-7 year old child bicycle alone to and from school in traffic, and we dont need special school bus traffic rules, cuz kids know to wait until the bus have left, and then look to both sides before crossing the road.

But let a Danish kid aged 16 drive a car, even after having passed a test :eek: that barely work when they are 18 and really i think Danish kids should wait until they are 21, cuz they appear that stupid.
Actually today a kid got his license taken for a 100 % over speed violation in his brand new car he got 2 days ago,,,,,, will be a while before he can retake the license and use that car.
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They are all the same colour!

Does anyone ever drive off with the wrong one?
 
hehe not that i have heard off, i think mothers have a fine tuned sense in this regard, but of course if she had other things than coffee on the cafe :)
 
Here in AZ, there've been a couple cases where kids/animals were left in running cars, with A/C, and some do-gooder decided that it wasn't enough and broke out a window. At least one person was arrested for B&E in that case and sued for damages; lost, too. IIRC, in that case, the car owner not only left the car running, but had a remote start that allowed the car to be locked and continue to run.

Lyle
 
Thank You @dr_ramoray (y) Here in SC even having the key in the switch with the engine turned off is considered to be the same as the car being operable. You must be within direct sight of your car and your kids or you must take the kids with you. We now play hardball after far too many children died this way.

Onto the question the answer remains the same as it's been since I got into dashcams many years ago: The hoary old Mobius deals with high heats well, but technology has moved onto better sensors for low light and more capable processors to get us better images. With Street Guardian you will get both the best in high-heat tolerance and very good vids in a cam which will function as it's supposed to :cool: The B1W also handles high heats well, but can shut down (with a verbal warning) if the heat slows down the card's write speeds below what the cam needs.

Some cam makers are now addressing the overheat problem by installing temp sensors which shut the cam down before it overheats. This may save the cam, but it also means you don't have a recording. I've ran many cams all day long in 90-100F degree temps (32-38C degrees) including battery models and none have died from it though many did stop recording in various ways. Some of these were cheap cams too, sort of a mid-grade build quality. Not recommended, but it makes me wonder why anyone would consider having automatic overheat shutdown. To those manufactures I say: " If your cams can't handle the heat levels commonly found in cars without disintegrating then you need to build better cams." Note that I don't expect them to work flawlessly in such heats continuously, but they should work flawlessly if booted at 100F/38C then cooled afterward with A/C or good airflow such as happens when you start driving. Many cams with auto-overheat-shutdown won't do this, so to me it's a useless feature and a warning of a cam to avoid :cautious:

American society has become so paranoid that a single man like myself can no longer go sit at a public park alone and read a book or just watch nature without being suspected of evil intentions :eek: That really sucks because abuse happened to my siblings, and had the perpetrator not died when I was still a child I'd be in jail for life with a smile on my face knowing I killed that SOB. Ain't fair to me but whatever- as long as innocent kids don't get harmed by stupid adults I'll live with it.

Phil
 
It is illegal to leave your car running here for any reason, not really a time limit on it as i understand it, for instance on the gas station where i often see it, it is actually illegal even if you just go inside to buy a soda or something.
This if both from a environmental perspective, but also from a theft perspective,,,,,, also your insurance do not cover it if you leave your car up for grabs like that, even if you should be able to do that in a world where other people should respect the property of other people.
 
kamkar1 said:
It is illegal to leave your car running here for any reason, not really a time limit on it as i understand it, for instance on the gas station where i often see it, it is actually illegal even if you just go inside to buy a soda or something.
This if both from a environmental perspective, but also from a theft perspective,,,,,, also your insurance do not cover it if you leave your car up for grabs like that, even if you should be able to do that in a world where other people should respect the property of other people.
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But what if you have a remote start that 1) allows you to leave your vehicle running while locking the doors, 2) will kill the car if the brake pedal is touched, which is necessary to put the vehicle in gear?

Lyle
 
laknox said:
But what if you have a remote start that 1) allows you to leave your vehicle running while locking the doors, 2) will kill the car if the brake pedal is touched, which is necessary to put the vehicle in gear?

Lyle
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I know this wasn't addressed to me, but here in SC USA that is totally legal- so long as there are no kids or pets in the cam not being accompanied by an adult. The law here makes no allowance for any other approach to the matter, and it is clear in that.

Phil
 
laknox said:
But what if you have a remote start that 1) allows you to leave your vehicle running while locking the doors, 2) will kill the car if the brake pedal is touched, which is necessary to put the vehicle in gear?

Lyle
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Illegal here on pollution and noise grounds. It's never been a safety issue here, but we don't have automatics, so the clutch prevents accidents.

We don't often have any reason to do it though!
 
jokiin said:

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Yes, that article does contain:

However, the DfT (government Department for Transport) told BuyaCar that on the public road, use of such apps “would only be lawful where the driver was in close attendance and could take control of the vehicle if needed.”.
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And in a court, being inside your house would definitely not count as in close attendance.

In addition, I think it is generally socially unacceptable here to unnecessarily pollute your neighbours air, might not apply in all circumstances, but it does in general.
 
laknox said:
But what if you have a remote start
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Yeah i know Denmark :rolleyes:
I assume it is okay to start your car remote as you are walking up to it.
Actually i have never seen anyone having a remote start, i think it is just something the ruling 1% elite have on their nice cars.
In the old days one of the main reasons Danes drove stick shift cars was that a automatic transmission was a added cost, and as cars are plenty expensive here ( try 2 X of what you pay at least ) then you pretty much only saw automatics in taxis which are working cars and so exempt from the severe taxes here.
Also whi taxis have also always been nicer cars like Mercedes ASO, often the same with driving instructor cars. ( even in the driving instructor can not use his work car for private stuff )
 
kamkar1 said:
i think it is just something the ruling 1% elite have on their nice cars.
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And gangsters/mobsters who fear someone placing a bomb in their car :rolleyes: I've seen some regular folks use this here in the wintertime so that their car will be warm and the windshield defrosted when they are ready to drive. Handy for that I guess, but not something I'd use.

Phil
 
kamkar1 said:
Yeah i know Denmark :rolleyes:
I assume it is okay to start your car remote as you are walking up to it.
Actually i have never seen anyone having a remote start, i think it is just something the ruling 1% elite have on their nice cars.
In the old days one of the main reasons Danes drove stick shift cars was that a automatic transmission was a added cost, and as cars are plenty expensive here ( try 2 X of what you pay at least ) then you pretty much only saw automatics in taxis which are working cars and so exempt from the severe taxes here.
Also whi taxis have also always been nicer cars like Mercedes ASO, often the same with driving instructor cars. ( even in the driving instructor can not use his work car for private stuff )
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I have remote start on my '02 Duramax truck. I use it in the summers to have the A/C going when it's 110+ out. I use it when towing my RV and am stopping since it has a timer function that will shut down after X minutes (progammable) to help prolong turbo life. I use it when running into my house or a store for a couple minutes, so I can leave the A/C running, again when it's 110+ outside. Because you have to press the brake pedal to put it in gear, that will kill the engine, assuming you've first broken into my truck since I'm religious about locking it. I have no kids and don't use my truck to take my grandkids anywhere; always use my Sonata with 2 kid seats in it, so that's a non-starter. Just sayin'...

Lyle
 
OK, so this is an old thread. I'm looking for updates for recommendations for newer cams that tolerate heat well. So far, I've not had a thermal event with my Thinkware cams, which is surprising. I've had my Garmin Nuvi throw several thermal shutdown messages this summer when I left it on while parked, even with a shade screen (not a silver quilted one) up.

Lyle
 
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