If you can wait, the upcoming SG dual remote cam will probably have the smallest visible footprint for a front cam, along with the rest being to good and modern standards. Or you might make a custom housing and use an old Möbius with the lens remoting cable. IMHO almost nobody will notice a small dashcam from the outside since nowadays almost all cars have sensor arrays and such mounted in that area, so the cam just blends in with the rest.
I agree, helps if the interior plastics are black. Mobius with a helmet-mount mounted higher up on the dotted area is almost invisible from the front. In comparison the current wedge shaped cams are clearly visible from the outside if the windshield isn't picking up any reflections, both day and night.
I hope the dual remote features even smaller cameras than the rear cameras from the dual-channel, going to be looking at one of those for a side install.
Should the money become available, I want the DR for my rear side cams as other than Möbius, SG is the only brand I'd trust to always function correctly no matter what. That will be important critical as access there will not be easy. I'm certain @jokiin knows the value of making the cam modules as small as possible.
All-black 'wedge' cams don't stand out a lot, but being right at the windshield they are more visible than a small all-black cam mounted further away. I consider them reasonably stealthy. Mostly it is the lens which gives the game away, but there is no getting around that as any cam must have a lens. I'm noticing more dashcams than ever here, but were I not looking for them I'd never see them most of the time. And luckily they are yet to become a target for theft like GPS units are.
@adimw I hope you are following g along here if only to see the other possible choices. There is a good cam for everyone but none is ever perfect. Knowing the real value of your compromises is what gets you that best cam.
that's also my first post here. I bought this camera 2 weeks ago. But unfortunately I have a Chinese version.
My feelings. It look really good, the videos are good (comparing to Yi camera which I was using previously).
But I am struggling with connecting it with app. I tried English version and Chinese version. Phone is connected with dashcam Wi-Fi but either app can't see that connection so I need to move memory card to my laptop to see videos.
I hope sooner or later there will be manual to flash English firmware to it (like I found it for the previous version of this camera).
when i go to setting (all in chinese):
1. Wifi information
2. Collision sensitivity (high, low, off)
3. Formatting SD card
4. System time
5. Screen off time
6. Advance settings
- Turn on or off wifi
- video coding (h.264 or h.265
- resolution (1280x720 and 1920x1080 )
- button sound volume
- dash cam turn on sound
- parking monitor (on/off, sensitivity, entering parking monitor time)
- time lapse? (not even sure how to turn it on)
- ADAS (need gps module to turn it on - I don't have it)
- e-dog? radar detector? (also need gps module)
7. System update
8. Factory reset
9. About (1.0.1 version of software)