How long before dashcams utilise already installed manufacturers cameras?

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My current car has surround cameras, this means one front, one rear and one each side. How long do you think it will be before manufacturers enable these cameras to record to on-site storage or even off site via cloud storage? Surely this can't be far in the future in which case dash cam manufacturing days are numbered??
 

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My current car has surround cameras, this means one front, one rear and one each side. How long do you think it will be before manufacturers enable these cameras to record to on-site storage or even off site via cloud storage? Surely this can't be far in the future in which case dash cam manufacturing days are numbered??
Wouldn't that be like Microsoft forcing people to use Microsoft software with their operating systems? The dashcam manufacturers could take the car manufactures to court for destroying competition!

Maybe instead they will install a standardised mount and power supply for dashcam use so that we can easily plug in whichever dashcam from whichever dashcam manufacturer we wish to use?

There is no reason that the cameras the car manufacturers are fitting for collision avoidance or autonomous driving will be suitable for human viewing. Images from lidar cameras are really not very good for looking at. There are no blue traffic lights so there is no need to use a camera with blue sensors, IR maybe more useful because that allows you to distinguish between vegetation and road/vehicles. You don't need number plate reading resolution for collision avoidance, but you do want depth sensing.
 
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Wouldn't that be like Microsoft forcing people to use Microsoft software with their operating systems? The dashcam manufacturers could take the car manufactures to court for destroying competition!

Maybe instead they will install a standardised mount and power supply for dashcam use so that we can easily plug in whichever dashcam from whichever dashcam manufacturer we wish to use?

There is no reason that the cameras the car manufacturers are fitting for collision avoidance or autonomous driving will be suitable for human viewing. Images from lidar cameras are really not very good for looking at. There are no blue traffic lights so there is no need to use a camera with blue sensors, IR maybe more useful because that allows you to distinguish between vegetation and road/vehicles. You don't need number plate reading resolution for collision avoidance, but you do want depth sensing.

Not sure they could be taken to court for destroying competition. After all. The end user would still have a choice. Have cameras that are factory fitted without obtrusive cameras in the cabin or purchase a cheaper more feature rich 3rd party option.
 
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nobody is going to get taken to court, the reality is the cameras used for safety systems in the vehicle aren't suitable for dashcam use, not currently anyway, always a possibility that they could change to something that could do both
 

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cars are already on our roads with factory installed dashcams, it's most likely already on the way even if the factory installed cameras aren't the ones used for parking, or it may be "added"

When it happens, it'll be entirely up to the customer to decide if they want the option at point of sale, but anyone who knows even a little about dashcams will most likely know they can get dedicated standalone dashcams or a combination of cams to set up for around £100-400 (currency may vary obviously) depending on how many cameras they'd desire, and importantly the features those cameras offer, as opposed to the dealers probably charge £1500+ as an "option" for maybe 4 cameras that may only record but might do almost nothing else (all the extra fancy functions most cheap enough dashcams can already do)

I have 3 cams, one in the front and one in the rear and a separate one I use in my work van or as an internal one in the car, total cost for all 3 was around £130 including two 32gb memory cards and one 64gb card.
 

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Dashcams on the cars will be like black-boxes on the airplanes. Only if some accident, the video could be extracted only by the manufacturer. No SD card, no possible (without hacking) to take some video you want from the recordings.
If you can see what video is recording you can complain about how bad is the image compared to your expectations to see as Blue-Ray quality from a BMW or Porsche dashcam.

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...the reality is the cameras used for safety systems in the vehicle aren't suitable for dashcam use, not currently anyway, always a possibility that they could change to something that could do both
More likely to depart further, there is no reason for the cameras to transmit images back to the car's central processor, only location, size and movement of objects in the scene, a very small amount of information, wont be long before that is what the automotive image sensors output. RGB images are of no use for autonomous systems.
 

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In time- probably a long time- car makers will offer integrated visual cams for driving and security purposes, and if they do it cheaply enough, then our kinds of dashcams will become extinct. There are a lot of problems for this at car-maker level, for they can be sued for non-functioning parts, systems, and products where aftermarket folks are practically immune to that. They would have to offer only the really good stuff which means high prices, or the buyers would reject it as being cheap and crappy. It would add steps in manufacturing which again raises costs.

The technology is here now, but that is only a small part of the big picture. We will reign for quite awhile longer I think :cool:

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