New cheap mini / micro action camera's.... any good??

dirkzelf

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In my search to SMALLEST possible action camera's I found these on the good old Ali Express:

Anyone have any experience with these? Or suggestions for other models?

(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/201...32809934346.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.LWfzgH)



Features:


1, The Smallest camera, only 2.8x1.1x2.8 cm,more convenient to hide,stronger concealment;
2, HD 1080P, imaging more clear, more vivid colors;
3, Two 5*8MM night vision lights, 940nm Lamps, no light lighten,recording without flash, night vision distance can up to 5 meters;
4, IR-CUT, activate/deactivate the night vision automatically, upon the ambient environment change;
5, Very easy to use, one-click video, one-click motion detection;
6, Loop video, can turn on and turn off;
7,Timestamp can show and hide.

Specifications:

Model: XD
Video Format: 1920X1080P
Memory support: 8 - 32G
Memory footprint: about 6G/ hour
Motion detection: 1080P
Frames: 30/second
Video format: AVI
Item Net Weight: 7g
Item Size: 2.8x1.1x2.8cm

Package List:
1 x HD Camera
1 x USB Cable
1 x User Manual

Noted: No Built in battery,when used, the portable or fixed power supply will be connected.


And this:

(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/108...32816428781.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.LWfzgH)




Features:

1,The Newest WIFI/IP camera,can remote monitoring any where any time.
2,HD1080P wifi,imaging more clear,more vivid colors.
3,Four 5*8MM NIGHT VISION LIGHTS,940nm Lamps,night vision without light and the distance can up to 5-7meters.
4,135 degree viewing angle,H.264 video format more stable.
5,Only 3.2*3.2*3.2cm,but working can up to 200mins; The portable or fixed power can be connected to achieve long time working.
6,Support Remote triggering alarm and remote capture recording.
7,Support IOS/Andrew/Windows,Maximum 8 pcs camera can be monitored simultaneously.

Specifications:

Model: Q9
Lens: HD OV9712
Charging Time: 3-4 hours
Shooting Time: 200 minutes
Video Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Item Net Weight: 30g
Item Size: 3.2 x 3.2x 3.2cm

Package List:


1 x HD Camera
1 x USB Cable
1 x Card reader
1 x Holder
1x User Manual
 

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I like the concepts, but these are probably lacking in the execution. No mention of sensors or chipsets being used (which usually means they are not good ones) and will probably not handle heat well because of their size and no visible heat sinking. Some day I think there will be excellent cams which are this small or smaller, but I do not see that in the next few years :( Watching this thread to see if anyone here has one of these to see what they think of it :)

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Strangely popular among some of the pricey Korean cameras for some reason, and the low end junk part of the market, doesn't make sense really
Didn't know that about the Korean models. That does seems strange. I remember early on in my experience with dash cams it seemed like many and even most recorded in .AVI and I had to look for cams that shot in .MOV.
 

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I like that that little IP cube camera has 940nm IR emitters. That's unique and would be a highly desirable feature in a stealthy home surveillance camera.
 

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That last one looks a bit big compared to the SQ11:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/272642987490?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Don't expect proper 1080 detail from these, more like 720 even if they are recording 1080.
F.w.i.w., SQ11 s@cks big time, don't touch it..... :eek:

These days, when a camera records in .AVI format it is a clue to stay away in my book.
My thoughts exactly, but, hey, you never know.... so hence the question...

I like that that little IP cube camera has 940nm IR emitters. That's unique and would be a highly desirable feature in a stealthy home surveillance camera.
I know right? But it's not all gold that blinks....So I'd like to see some footage of this one before I dump an emo-buy... :D

Mobius mini wouldn't be much different in size to that first one, it's really small, does have the heat issues you mentioned though
Forgot about the mini.... yeah, heat, bu for a hatcam it would be swell, no?

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I know right? But it's not all gold that blinks....So I'd like to see some footage of this one before I dump an emo-buy... :D


:cool:
But someone has to take a bullet for the good of the cause! You found this one, so that makes you the best candidate! :p:D
 

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Maybe you should say what you want it for, those AVI ones are OK for some uses. Wouldn't want to use one as a dashcam though!
 

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Maybe you should say what you want it for, those AVI ones are OK for some uses. Wouldn't want to use one as a dashcam though!
Personally, I've been in the market for a small indoor 1080p IP cam. I've been looking at the Yi Dome Camera 1080p HD Pan/Tilt/Zoom, which would likely be a much better investment for approximately the same price. The idea of a tiny little IP cam that functions in a similar fashion intrigues me though as a possible adjunct to something like the Yi. They would be used for surveillance and such things as keeping an eye on livestock when I'm not on my property.
 
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Q9 has a OmniVision OV9712 CMOS 1280 x 720
Some vids on YT from store-bought IP cams with it look pretty good daytime, so the potential is there ;) Didn't look for low-light footage so ??? on the IR imaging.

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Personally, I've been in the market for a small indoor 1080p IP cam. I've been looking at the Yi Dome Camera 1080p HD Pan/Tilt/Zoom, which would likely be a much better investment for approximately the same price. The idea of a tiny little IP cam that functions in a similar fashion intrigues me though as a possible adjust to something like the Yi. They would be used for surveillance and such things as keeping an eye on livestock when I'm not on my property.
Euhm, those aren't mini's....?? Product Dimensions 4.3 x 5.9 x 4.3 inches

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Q9 has a OmniVision OV9712 CMOS 1280 x 720
Some vids on YT from store-bought IP cams with it look pretty good daytime, so the potential is there ;) Didn't look for low-light footage so ??? on the IR imaging.

Phil
I'm guessing this one:



Also found this on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272709327994
but it shows 1080p in headr, while description says 720p 15fps +1 ... what...?! But that's not what you mean, do yo?

Actually I find a lot of items related, and called Q9.....

http://fdjtoys.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50

https://www.juantambayan.com/buy-an...ivel-camera-cellphone-mobile-phone-jtid142618

http://corvit.sg/wordpress/?page_id=6359

https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...35112.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.1.SSCImS

Also found an SQ9, but I don't think that's what you mean? https://baiyutrade.com/2017/02/14/enklov-mini-1080p-camera/

Which btw looks suspiciously very much like the SQ11.... :giggle:
 
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What I did was check the ad which mentioned the sensor. Then I googled the sensor and got links from there which were to IP cams and their vids. You can get the sensor specs page from that too, but such stuff is beyond my interest level. I also saw mention of sensor boards for sale using the M12 lens.

This seems a versatile cam in a nice little package, especially with real-time viewing over wifi. I'm guessing the 200 minute run-time would be basic recording to card, not while using wifi, but that's still great for a cam this small.

Definitely an interesting cam and I'm hoping we will see some in-depth reviews soon :cool:

Phil
 

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The seller sent me the manual for both, and the cube is recording 1280x720 @15fps..... NO TECH info ont the flat one..... My advise: stay away from these..... (n)