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card problems can cause the camera to freeze
Looks like the High Endurance is out of stock on amazon
Max Endurance seems to be in stock not many reviews but they seem good looks like I may get that then.
Just to confirms this one of the SD cards? https://www.amazon.com/gp/B084CJJRBW
Also seeing the price is the same for the 512 Samsung would recommend getting more storage since I do use parking mode or better to get the Sandisk?
Samsung one?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/B0887CHVFF
All but one of my cards came from Amazon and I've never had a problem with them, but I always buy direct from the card manufacturer's store or when fulfilled and shipped by Amazon- NO private sellers. The one card I got elsewhere came from the biggest and oldest local computer store and the geeks there don't mess around with crap- only good stuff.
Phil
Test it when you get it, regardless of the source.
Any reliable sources to substantiate that?When in fact, the gray market on Amazon is huge.
Any reliable sources to substantiate that?
Sold by or fulfilled by Amazon is safe - period. Even if you should get a bad card the exchange is nearly painless. Third party sellers on Amazon is no different than eBay - it's a crap shoot. I buy cards almost exclusively on Amazon for 20+ years now and have never received anything other than a legitimate product.
As is buying from and through any third party seller on any web site including Amazon.Ebay is a wild west show.....
...When in fact, the gray market on Amazon is huge.
From your referenced 2 year old article:Engadget reliable for you? - https://www.engadget.com/2018-05-31-fulfilled-by-amazon-counterfeit-fake.html
1/100 of 1% over a 2 year period hardly qualifies as huge by any definition...has found around 58,000 counterfeit products on Amazon since May 2016. That's a small slice of the 560 million items on the site,
And nowhere in that article does it say anything about people who but directly from a manufacturer's Amazon store. Which is a LOT different than buying from someone else. It is CLEARLY STATED who you are buying from on your Amazon buying pages right through the final sales confirmation page, but I guess there are people who do not think they need to pay attention to what they are doing, or to understand how to use Amazon, or who seem to not be able to comprehend words which the average 6th grader understands. And then they will blame someone else for their mistakes
There ARE fake cards on Amazon to be sure, but not when you use the exact processes we're talking about here. Do anything other than exactly what we recommend and you can get screwed over. And if you can't understand the difference then you should not be spreading mis-truths about it
Long ago I heard a wise old saying and I took it to heart: "It is better to say nothing and be thought of as being stupid than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt".
Phil
As is buying from and through any third party seller on any web site including Amazon.
From your referenced 2 year old article:
1/100 of 1% over a 2 year period hardly qualifies as huge by any definition.
Bottom line, buying from Amazon is about as safe an online purchase you can make anywhere. Items that I ordered via Amazon from third parties ('sold by' and 'fulfilled by') that were either not as advertised or not received were 100% covered by Amazon with no loss on my part other than the time it took to submit a claim.
BTW I think you're confusing the terms 'gray market' and 'counterfeit'. 'Gray market' is the practice of legitimate products being sold through channels not authorized by the manufacturer ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_market ) while counterfeit is a fake product being presented as legitimate. I mention this because you specifically used the term 'gray market' but your referenced article deals exclusively with counterfeit goods.
And, yes, I'm aware that there certainly may be 'gray market' items on Amazon but that does not make the product itself bad in any way. The only 'loss' to a purchaser might be difficulty in obtaining warranty support.
Apparently, you're still not comprehending the term 'gray market'. Not being 'sold and shipped' by the manufacturer is not the definition of gray market. Gray market is a term used to describe a legitimate product sold through channels not authorized by the manufacturer. Example: Canon and Nikon both have authorized distribution channels through either Canon USA or Nikon USA. Any of their products sold in the US through any other channel is categorized as 'gray market'.I used the term gray market because Amazon has a large 3rd party seller market. Where products aren't sold and shipped by the manufacturer...
Apparently, you're still not comprehending the term 'gray market'. Not being 'sold and shipped' by the manufacturer is not the definition of gray market. Gray market is a term used to describe a legitimate product sold through channels not authorized by the manufacturer. Example: Canon and Nikon both have authorized distribution channels through either Canon USA or Nikon USA. Any of their products sold in the US through any other channel is categorized as 'gray market'.
For example - this page at B&H Photo the first 2 items are the exact same lens - the only difference is one was obtained by B&H through the Nikon US distributor (USA) and the other was directly imported (Import) thus avoiding some cost with the savings passed on to the customer.
nikon af nikkor 50mm f/1.4d lens | B&H Photo Video
Shop B&H's in stock, large inventory for fast shipping, great service and everyday low prices on nikon af nikkor 50mm f/1.4d lens. For more info, please call 800-947-4415www.bhphotovideo.com
And here on the B&H site is a complete description of gray market and what it means in this context.
WRONG!, 100% totally wrong....A gray market item is an item sold by a 3rd party....
WRONG!, 100% totally wrong.
As I said, you are not grasping the concept of gray market.
In my example above B&H Photo is a 3rd party seller by any definition you care to attach to them. They are also an authorized reseller of both Nikon and Canon (and many other brands) - but they sell both gray market and non-gray market versions of the exact same product (the first 2 items listed in the link I provided if you bothered to look at it). It's not who the seller of a product is but rather the distribution channel the product was acquired through that determines the 'gray market' status of the product. (This also clearly explained in the second link I provided to the B&H site.)
As a 3rd party seller on Amazon and an authorized seller for Viofo, do you consider the Viofo cameras I sell on Amazon as “grey market” items?Please read the very first words I said..... I used the term gray market because Amazon has a large 3rd party seller market. A gray market item is an item sold by a 3rd party. Note I said 3rd party and not authorized reseller or distributor. And thus these 3rd party items aren't sold and shipped (fulfilled) by Amazon....
As a 3rd party seller on Amazon and an authorized seller for Viofo, do you consider the Viofo cameras I sell on Amazon as “grey market” items?
We are (one of) their authorized channel. On Amazon we are 3th party, on our own website, we are 2nd party.Did you buy them from Viofo Directly or one of his authorized channels? If not, then yes. You are a gray market 3rd party. Im not sure what better term to give it. You aren't a first hand (manufacturer) or second hand seller (customer / buyer). Maybe there's a better term to identify the person who gets items outside normal distribution channels and resells it without manufacturers consent.