Reviewing and Testing the Vantrue S1 Pro Max

"you might be able to mount the A329 on the dash (gps side down), and aim the camera out the front window."

I was just looking at that, but in the online user manual could not find switching view/recording by 180 degrees.

Sticking the 329 GPS down would point the cam straight out the glass. I'll need to verify the 180 switching view/recording.

The BlackVue is specific they have the 180-degree feature (though I would not need it).
 
I would suggest looking into the Vantrue E1 Pro (small, compact, excellent image quality) and asking Vantrue if there is a more flexible mount for it that will accommodate a vertical mounting surface. @Jeff_Vantrue - any commentary or insights?
The Vantrue E1 Pro can be mounted on a vertical windshield using the suction cup mount.
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My now dead Mobius Maxi 4K dash cam footage saved me in Oregon when 2 kayaks came off car that just passed us. Insurance company of the other driver refused to pay my claim. Footage to the Oregon state insurance commissioner fixed that.

We move 200 miles on Sunday 21 Sept, so time has been of the essence. I just ordered the BlackVue DR970X-1CH Plus II Dash Cam – 4K as it can arrive in time at our current campground.

In approx 1 to 2 months I will replace the older Mobius (not 4K) in my jeep Grand Cherokee. I will check every camera that everyone recommended for that purchase. And I may do a 2 channel for rear camera as well.

Thanks to all who helped.
 
I just posted to measurements of the behavior of the VP03 (II) and VP05 (II) hardwire kits to my thread on the N5S camera. The power efficiencies are pretty good and the user-selectable voltage shut-down levels are EXTREMELY precise.

More details are available here:
 
I was in the process of cleaning some old dashcam videos off of my computer to make room for more and I found a few that are pretty interesting. A few months ago, my son and I took a trip to Yankee Stadium for a game and I have some good plate captures in some interesting and challenging lighting scenarios.

First up is a capture from the S1 Pro Max 4k rear camera. After crossing the George Washington Bridge and entering uptown Manhattan, there are a series of overpasses that create some very stark contrast situations. In this image, the rising sun is reflecting off of the buildings in the upper background and the overpass is creating harsh shadows in the darker foreground. The overall brightness is rendered pretty well. Given the black color of the car directly behind me combined with the shadows from the overpass, the front plate of the car just about disappears (right hand zoom/crop insert). But, my rear brake lights provide enough light to make the plate on the car behind me clearly readable (left hand zoom/crop insert). Pretty awesome!
S1PM Rear Camera Brakes.webp


And here are a few other plate captures from the main camera looking out the front windshield. At this point, we're driving under the subway tracks which results in another scene with challenging lighting, high contrast, and headlight reflections. All of these produce readable plate captures!
S1PM 1.webp

S1PM 2.webp


S1PM3.webp
 
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so far i have tested.



Trancend Ultra performance - black silver - OK
PNY XLR8. white red - OK
Kingston Canvas Go plus. - black blue - OK
Sandisk extreme plus. gold red - OK
Lexar professional. grey - Black - OK
PNY PRO Elite - grey black - OK

And in this day and age, not least with a dual 4K system 256 GB is the absolute minimum, 256GB is also the size of all the memory cards in my test suite.

I am glad even if i do not live there, that the Danish towns getting light rail ATM, have not chosen the silly elevated route.
 
And is 128gb enough?

The S1 Pro Max at it's highest resolution produces a 544MB file every three minutes from the front camera. If you have the 4k rear camera, the rear camera also produces a 544MB file every three mins. That's 1.089G every three mins from both cameras. With a 128G card, you're looking at about 6hrs of drive mode recording time. Then, just choose according to your driving pattern.

If you drive less than 30mins/day, you're good for about 12 days of driving before files get overwritten.
If you drive one hour each way, you're looking at only 3 days.

With 256G, double those figures. With 512G, multiply by 4.

UPDATE: With the latest firmware update (S1PM_VT-EEK241 from Dec 2, 2025) to the S1PM camera, the data rate and file sizes have increased by about 30%. The file size is now 706MB for every three minutes of video from the front camera with a corresponding visual improvement in video quality.
 
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The S1 Pro Max at it's highest resolution produces a 544MB file every three minutes from the front camera. If you have the 4k rear camera, the rear camera also produces a 544MB file every three mins. That's 1.089G every three mins from both cameras. With a 128G card, you're looking at about 6hrs of drive mode recording time. Then, just choose according to your driving pattern.

If you drive less than 30mins/day, you're good for about 12 days of driving before files get overwritten.
If you drive one hour each way, you're looking at only 3 days.

With 256G, double those figures. With 512G, multiply by 4.

Any particular brand/model you recommend?
 
Any particular brand/model you recommend?
I only have cards from Vantrue, Viofo, and a SandDisk Max Endurance 256G. I have not had any problems from any of them. I haven't played with different brands of SD cars, so I'd defer to @kamkar and others that have first hand experience with a variety of cards.
 
I have about 15 cards in my suite, all 256 GB ones of course, two of them ( Sillicon power ) often the ones that do not work.
Focusing on the cheaper end of the spectrum as i think it is human nature to go cheap

So far i have only run the 512 GB card i got with the T800 system, i really should get under way with other cards in that one.
But factoring in earlier 70main systems i have tried i am pretty sure the T800 are not fussy about memory cards.
 
To say that I was excited to hear about the latest firmware update for the S1 Pro Max would be a large understatement! I've always thought this was a nice camera for a variety of reasons (form factor, swivel lens for aiming, the 4k rear camera, and decent image quality out of the front 4k camera), but I found the relatively high rate of video compression to have a detrimental impact on image quality from the forward facing camera when compared to other 4k cameras. This latest firmware update provides a significant update to the video bit rate for the front camera: from 24.6Mb/s to 31.9Mb/s. So, after updating the firmware, I put it back in the car for a quick comparison to the excellent N4 Pro S camera (also 4k, also 31.9Mb/s) and my original Viofo A139 Pro (4k, 45.9Mb/s data rate) camera that I've had for two years.

Both the S1PM and the N4PS have a polarizer installed, both had HDR turned on, both have PlatePix turned on, both have EV = 0.6 to compensate for reduced image brightness resulting from PlatePix. The results are rather interesting!

S1PM Full Frame Image:
S1PM Ford Full Frame 1st Line.webp


N4PS Full Frame Image:
N4PS Ford Full Frame 1st Line.webp


A139 Pro Full Frame: Polarizer installed, HDR on:
A139P Ford Full Frame 1st Line.webp


And here is a comparison of a 300% crop of the Ford ahead of me while moving at about 30 mph. I timed this each of the images for comparison with CapCut so that the rear wheels of the car have just passed the white line on the road. The three images below were made at precisely the same time and distance from my car.

S1PM 300% crop from above:
S1PM Ford 300p 1st White Line.webp


N4PS 300% crop from above:
N4PS For 300p 1st White Line.webp


A139 Pro 300% crop from full frame above:
A139P Ford 300p 1st White Line.webp


The S1PM still exhibits a bit of a white border outline on certain objects, but it is much reduced compared to images from the previous firmware version. Interestingly, all three cameras exhibit a white halo around the black SUV - this is likely an artifact of the image processing that goes on within each camera related to using overlapping images to create HDR, image sharpening, and other brightness/contrast tweaks that are applied during MPEG encoding. A direct comparison to the N4PS also reveals some compression artifacts that are somewhat more visible in the S1PM than they are in the N4PS - this is most visible in the sky directly above the arm for the traffic lights. It is important to remember that these images are 300% zooms, so the differences are small and I'm being a little picky here. The A139P seems fairly comparable to the other two. Each camera seems to exhibit some digital artifacts as a result of MPEG compression, but these artifacts appear in different areas of the frame. Contrast seems to be a bit greater in the S1PM than in the N4PS, and both are greater than the contrast rendered by the A139P though all produce good images. The image from the A139P is the brightest of the three, but the higher bitrate of the A139P doesn't seem to help it resolve any more detail than the other two cameras in this setting. The A139P also exhibits the greatest color bleed of these 300% zooms, evident directly to the left and right of the SUV.

The rear plate is not readable at all with any of these cameras, but this is not a surprise, the distance was too great for each of these 4k cameras. I'm pretty confident that NO 4k camera (without extra magnification) would be able to read a plate at this distance. The point of this comparison is just to compare overall image quality in the context of the new S1PM firmware update.

Here is another comparison between these three cameras, this time I'm focused on license plate readability. My car is stationary as I wait for a turn arrow. The traffic in the two adjacent lanes is passing by at about 35MPH, so there is a substantial speed differential. All of the same settings apply to both Vantrue cameras: polarizer installed, PlatePix on, HDR on, and EV=0.6.

Full Frame from the S1PM:
S1PM Escalade Full Frame 2nd Line.webp


And the same from the N4PS:
N4PS Escalade Full Frame 2nd Line.webp


A139 Pro Full Frame, Polarizer on, HDR on, no EV compensation has been added.
A139P Escalade Full Frame 2nd Line.webp


The forum software is telling me that I've reach my limit of images that can be attached to one message, so detailed comparisons are below.
 
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Here are some crop and zooms of the license plate on the rear of the Escalade that is posted above. My car is stationary and the passing traffic is moving at about 35 MPH. The first crop from each camera is a 300% zoom of the frame where the rear wheels are just past the second white line of the crosswalk. The second crop is a 400% zoom from 10 frames (1/3 of a second) later, and the final crop is a 500% zoom from 15 frames (1/2 second) later.

S1PM:
S1PM Escalade Comparison.webp


N4PS:
N4PS Escalade Comparison.webp


A139P:
A139P Escalade Comparison.webp


The contrast with the S1PM is clearly greatest, making the lettering easiest to read in the 300% zoom comparison. The S1PM seems to triumph again with the 400% zoom, where the N4PS and A139P both seem to introduce some color artifacts. By the time we get to the 500% zoom, it seems that the advantage goes to the N4PS, the letters and numbers are a bit more well defined with the N4PS than with the S1PM. This is a VERY small difference. The A139P exhibits lowest level of contrast and the greatest amount of chroma blur in the 500% zoom. The advantages of Vantrue's PlatePix feature are clearly visible with this comparison.

Overall, this is an EXCELLENT and welcome upgrade to the S1PM! I've always thought the compression rate was the Achilles Heal for the S1PM... Not any more!! Resolution, data rates, and compression rates make the S1 Pro Max much more similar to the excellent E1 Pro and N4 Pro S than ever before. Awesome! At this point, the choice among these three Vantrue cameras (1-channel E1 Pro, 2-channel S1 Pro Max, and the 3-channel N4 Pro S) boils down to how many video channels do you need and do you need/value the AI driver support systems that are part of the S1 Pro Max.

Also to my delight - the firmware fix that preserves time stamps as files are copied from the SD card to my computer has also been applied to the S1PM! AWESOME!!
 
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And here is a night time comparison of the same three cameras as above. All three cameras have a polarizer installed, all three have HDR on, and the Vantrue cameras have PlatePix on. For each camera, I selected the single best plate capture from the video stream

At about 15 MPH:
S1PM #1.webp


At about 25 MPH:
S1PM #2 Blue Jeep.webp


And again at about 25 MPH:
S1PM Truck #3.webp


In all three of these composite images, each camera produces a readable plate. It looks like the advantage goes to the N4PS in each of these three image captures. In all three captures, the A139 Pro produces the least amount of contrast, making it the hardest to read. The 3-channel N4PS retains the title of Flagship camera, but the S1PM isn't very far behind. The upgrade in compression/data rate for the S1 Pro Max is clearly a large improvement!
 
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And here is a night time comparison of the same three cameras as above. All three cameras have a polarizer installed, all three have HDR on, and the Vantrue cameras have PlatePix on. For each camera, I selected the single best plate capture from the video stream

At about 15 MPH:
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At about 25 MPH:
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And again at about 25 MPH:
View attachment 88520

In all three of these composite images, each camera produces a readable plate. It looks like the advantage goes to the N4PS in each of these three image captures. In all three captures, the A139 Pro produces the least amount of contrast, making it the hardest to read. The 3-channel N4PS retains the title of Flagship camera, but the S1PM isn't very far behind. The upgrade in compression/data rate for the S1 Pro Max is clearly a large improvement!
sure the s1promax front camera bitrate is same as n4pros
 
Media Info reports a bitrate of 31.9Mb/s for both the S1PM and the N4PS. The 3-min file size for the S1PM is 706,560KB and the the N4PS is 708,608KB. Something is slightly different between the two...
 
Media Info reports a bitrate of 31.9Mb/s for both the S1PM and the N4PS. The 3-min file size for the S1PM is 706,560KB and the the N4PS is 708,608KB. Something is slightly different between the two...
but the rear camera of s1pm is toooo low
 
Platepix is showing nice contrast compared with the A139 Pro's HDR setting.
I don't remember seeing the Firmware stamp before
 
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