Can you name all the Chinese cameras like this that aren't interpolated? Because I'd like to know. GoPro is the only one doing a real 4k standard to my knowledge and that 4K is 3840 x 2160 which is ultra HD, not true 4k which is 4096 x 2160. And they are correct, most consumer cameras are using the 3840 x 2160 standard. Their next camera will probably do a real 4k judging how they work. The last cameras did interpolated 60p and 2k now they do real 60p and 2k. My guess is the next one ("SJ6000"?) will do real 4k if they don't implement something in a firmware update (can they do that?) that will make this one record at 3840 x 2160.No they are not. Most of Chinese cheap knock offs are interpolated. It is shameful to say something like this.
When did SJCam say it was real 4K. A lot of companies do this without mentioning the interpolation at all.Misleading as well. I really disagree with this. Actual companies that care about customers do not do such things.
Again I question at what point did SJCam say it was real 4K. Every since I first knew about this camera it was stated on their website the 4K was interpolated.So if every single knock off brand is cheating, its is OKAY?
Typical Chinese company way of doing stuff.
Last time I checked I bought my own cameras with my own money unless SJCam is sending me cameras I'm not getting. And what you're saying doesn't make sense. If I were getting cameras for free what would be the point of getting crappy cameras, even if they were free? Also in my videos (which obviously you don't watch) I was one of the first to point out the flaws in the 1.2.2 firmware when I did my film "eXcelerated". By the way you should probably Google me before you look like fool. I am an avid and known indy filmmaker.Okay Nate with all due respect, it seams to me you are leaning towards SJCAM unfairly and defending them. You are saying cheating is not bad.
I understand you got a free camera from them, but you are talking crap and its making you look like a fool.
I am not going into biased discussion nor have time for it.
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This is just info from sjcam official channel, site , etc. I can go on and on, but I do not think its necessary.
Just because you are an indy filmmaker does not mean you are right.
It is because of online communities that SJCAM actually put interpolated in their product description few weeks ago.
This is clearly false information that is their point as well. Sorry, but only a blind person can not see this.
Now, since you are a famous filmmaker, can you tell me how can a normal person not think that this is not a 4K action camera?
When a person defends a manufacturer without any sensible reason, to me that person is biased.
I apologize for my manners, but your posts were annoying.
I am unsubscribing from this topic, and not going to get into discussion with you.
Well, like it or not there is interpolation. Interpolation is a fairly common practice. Sony got in trouble a few years ago for not being honest about 24p interpolation. Canon's 24p video cameras originally did interpolated 24p, but it functioned just like true 24p. And people had no problem using it, as it was one of the most famous cameras doing 24p. And these were the major cameras (costing over two grand) and they were honest about the interpolation even though they didn't have to be. If your argument is that they didn't say interpolated every time they said 4k, that's a silly argument. It's called due dilligence. I went to the site, read all the info and carefully considered was it right for my needs.There is no "interpolated 4K, unreal 4K, 4K fake" Either you have a 4K capable product or not. If you do not have it, do not advertise it as such, as it is dishonest. Hopefully they will learn a lesson. The thing is SJCAM is not yet a another Chinese brand. They have reputation, but with things like this they are ruining it.
And being an indy filmmaker doesn't make me right, simply knowing the tech makes me right. Yes they advertise 4k, just like Canon advertised 24p and if they're honest about it and the filmmaker/user finds it satisfactory then that's all that is needed.
No apology needed. My post are common sense, I'm used to people losing arguments to me.When a person defends a manufacturer without any sensible reason, to me that person is biased.
I apologize for my manners, but your posts were annoying.
Yes, because you're generally wrong. Good day sir.I am unsubscribing from this topic, and not going to get into discussion with you.
...nothing to do with sjcam gives all the people who want to buy a cheap 4K camera false information driving the marketing. Also with advertising the preorder, be one of the first with a cheap "elite 4K cam"!But Youtube will read it as 4k and give it a better bitrate when people watch it on their screens. That's where it comes in handy.
Again, they didn't cheat anyone. They gave specs everyone could read. No they're fault people can't read. Funny that I knew it was interpolated from their specs. How is that justifying anything. I read you didn't. Big justification there.You provided zero proof to justify these acts. Just because someone is doing it, or used to do it, it makes it OK? Are you out of your mind?
How can you even consider yourself an independent filmmaker? You are aware that you are trying to justify lies and cheating of customers? What kind of a person does that?
Reread your quote: " big brands make money of STUPID people." That's your quote. Basically you believe the company has to make sure the person reading or buying isn't stupid. Seriously?Because of that kind of attitude big brands make money of stupid people. Because of that attitude bunch of other thing happen in the world. But lets not go into that.
ILuckily this forum has great community and information and we try to put as much honest and unbiased info out there.
You provided just bull**** here, where as we provided clear evidence.
Fine you want proof. Here it is. A history of interpolation. These are all the cameras that used some form of interpolation.Common sense to you maybe, bunch of bull**** for me.
it did get updated, there was very little reference of it originally to the point where most people had no idea it was interpolated, the info has been improved since but I'd say there are still people that aren't aware or even know the difference, they are not alone, most of these manufacturers have been promoting their cameras as 4k with little real detail about what that actually meansI can only speak from my experience and it was always stated that it was interpolated when I first saw it back in September or October. But that's all I can say.