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Think he's saying you shouldn't be downloading while driving

Agreed.

In the UK and no doubt most countries you could (and should) be prosecuted for driving with undue care and attention if you start to use a DashCam while driving.
 
Ad downloading/driving: What if one needs to download multiple videos and don't have time to wait stationary or without recording until it downloads them (even one video with few hundreds MB will take a bit of time at few MBps speed)...

I still can't wrap my head around this "recording vs setting/downloading" concept.
If one is an asshole, you won't prevent the use of a phone during drive anyway. And i doubt any of you do like self-proclaimed defenders of the law on the road as well so let police do their work... ;)
 
Ad downloading/driving: What if one needs to download multiple videos and don't have time to wait stationary or without recording until it downloads them (even one video with few hundreds MB will take a bit of time at few MBps speed)...

I still can't wrap my head around this "recording vs setting/downloading" concept.
If one is an asshole, you won't prevent the use of a phone during drive anyway. And i doubt any of you do like self-proclaimed defenders of the law on the road as well so let police do their work... ;)
But in what situation would you need to download that many videos but need to be driving?
The download speeds are quick with a big video taking seconds to download.
Plus if the camera is maximising it’s processing power recording 3 channels, sound and GPS, all of this data writing to the card, you’ll be asking a lot for it to then also run Wi-fi and data transfer from the card.
 
I don't know, i jumped in my car, noticed some events (not necessarily means event files) so i want to download them before camera overwrites them and i see no point in waiting e.g. 5 minutes for download. (calm your horses those of you mr. "i have a second card to swap them" :D ) I'm still a quite young guy and have other things to do than assist my phone during download... Not to mention 3 channel camera surely produces more data so more data to download. Just out of curiosity, download speeds should be up to 8MBps for A139 according to Viofo product page, how large files A139 produces in case of 1min video at max..?
About video processing and adding sound, fair enough, but GPS is few bps and good SDcard has plenty of resources to handle saving of video and accesing already saved ones - so it's basically just about processing power of the camera chipset. And you're missing the point that i didn't asked for recording at max and Wifi download also at max, i'm just at the side of the coin to have even oportunity to decide whether i need to drive and download at 1/3 speed (but not affecting IQ). Or to make sure my dashcam still covers me at the parking spot while i'm searching for videos where somebody hit me. Btw i got into dashcams world by installing dashcam to my car and literally 3 minutes after i sticked the front unit to windshield somebody hit a car in front of me... (so accident can come anytime in any moment - well, that's basically the point of having a dashcam)

Btw: @viofo So A139 is one of those which are crippled with Wifi turned on or is this just a matter of excesive Wifi use? Does it affect also IQ? (@jokiin calm your horses about "Wifi always on is not safe" ;))
And what about HDR, are there any plans? I already know from you it can be implemented but will be? When i saw A119V3 with HDR footage, my finger trembles over Order button for two A139-3CH units... :ROFLMAO:
 
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I made no such statement about wifi being on all the time being unsafe or otherwise, must be someone else's horses you're looking for
I would swear that... Ok, sorry about that then. :)
 
There is no need to be downloading and recording at the same time, nor does the hardware we have available in dashcams today allow for that to happen without losing a lot of something in the process. If you feel a need to do this, then you are not handling the situation correctly. Either download or drive, or swap SD cards so you can download later because if you can afford the A139 then you can afford a second card :cautious:

Phil
 
or swap SD cards so you can download later because if you can afford the A139 then you can afford a second card :cautious:
My 32GB class 6 card works fine as a second card, probably wasn't all that cheap, but its current value is not much above zero! You do not need the latest and fastest U3 card for use as a spare, my spare has no U rating and still copes with maximum bitrate. Make sure you do test the spare, but it only needs to work, slow read speeds are not an issue.
 
There is no need to be downloading and recording at the same time, nor does the hardware we have available in dashcams today allow for that to happen without losing a lot of something in the process. If you feel a need to do this, then you are not handling the situation correctly. Either download or drive, or swap SD cards so you can download later because if you can afford the A139 then you can afford a second card :cautious:

Phil
The situation with driving and downloading was an example and just a reaction to "using a phone during drive" discussed before. The thing which bothers ME most is that i have to stop recording, check videos or change settings and then resume the recording. And if something hapens while one browses in the app, it won't be recorded. Not to mention Viofo app (or dashcam itself, don't know) sometimes resumes recording by itself which interrupts the viewing/changing settings and the whole process needs to be done again... (at least in case of my two A129Pros)
And don't know about others but Blackvue is able to handle that (so hardware is available) and only when settings are confirmed camera reboots with them applied. But sure, they reuses the same overpowered chipset with low bitrate set even for the highest setting, for few years now and customers pay for their cameras 2-4 times more.
Why handling the situation by letting a phone download some footage while i pay attention to a traffic is incorrect by any means? If you transfer some large files via PC to external drive, do you sit and stare at the loading bar as well? Or why swapping card is more correct?

Second microSD, which needs to be held somewhere, one needs to think about to take it out of a car to transfer data to PC at home, then not forget it home or you don't have a second card for next day, etc. (sounds like a small thing, but dashcam should be here for me, not me for dashcam) OR Just occasionally transfer few videos to phone in car when one needs them (which sounds a bit funny from me because i like the idea to park in my garage and transfer footage via AP overnight :D ). It's not about whether one can afford a second card...

Guys, i'm not against anybody nor any manufacturer, i get your points but you should consider some use cases could be more convenient for others. Just because you don't use it like this (or didn't think about using it like this) doesn't mean it's wrong (because "there are other ways"). I'm a supporter of more options and those mentioned here aren't anything special in my opinion.
 
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I too support choices and options, but I also understand that even where possible they will cost something if adding them cannot be done with a FW change or SDK choice. Personally I think it better to keep the prices of our cams as low as is practicable so that more can have high-performance cams. Those desiring the other options can choose the more expensive cams which have them.

Every cam is a compromise in some way by necessity even if only in price, and that will never change.

Phil
 
Wanting the ability to download and record does not mean that individual will be driving at the same time. Its akin to saying wanting the ability to remove the speed stamp is because you will be speeding.

It's an absurd statement and I'm not sure why people continue to project that assumption. Stop with you moral finger wagging and and stick to debating the technical merits if at all.

Viofo made the decision due to technical and user experience reason, as they have stated. Debate those merits and not positions based on your self-righteous presumptions.
 
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I am still asking for features in dashcams i can not get :)
But wifi are not in there as the avid wifi and phone hater that i am, and some times that come out in here, again and again.

Okay in all honesty i have been using dashcam wifi and my phone lately, simply have to if i want to make a settings change and have forgotten my reading glasses, CUZ those small dashcam screens are more or less useless with my eyesight.
But other than that i will not use either of those, i think i touch my phone like 5 minutes a day on average, thats how much i dont really need it.

I also know i am "special"
 
Viofo said hardwire kit released next week. General FYI.

It's on there website now for pre-order it's straight and it has the fat bit at the end for use with the locking bar :cool:

 
So who do folks purchase their VIOFOs from these days?

I usually buy my Dash Cams from Rick @ Dashcams Central up in Sydney ... only his website has been under maintenance for quite a while now so no idea whether he's still in the Dashcam business or not..? Doesn't appear so.
My Viofos are still working fine ... only considering which to get once needing a replacement.
Have an A119 VIOFO Pro up front and an A119S rear. Thinking perhaps a A119V3 if replacing 1 ... or the A129 Plus Duo.
The A129 Plus Duo doesn't rate the highest ... only to my eyeballs ... has the clearest quality daytime and good night-time video.

or is the new A139 all the rage?
 
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So who do folks purchase their VIOFOs from these days?

I usually buy my Dash Cams from Rick @ Dashcams Central up in Sydney ... only his website has been under maintenance for quite a while now so no idea whether he's still in the Dashcam business or not..? Doesn't appear so.
My Viofos are still working fine ... only considering which to get once needing a replacement.
Have an A119 VIOFO Pro up front and an A119S rear. Thinking perhaps a A119V3 if replacing 1 ... or the A129 Plus Duo.
The A129 Plus Duo doesn't rate the highest ... only to my eyeballs ... has the clearest quality daytime and good night-time video.

or is the new A139 all the rage?

Amazon works fine. Viofo has an official store. I've got a bunch of Amazon Gift cards so that'll be where I pick up my next camera. Most likely this model (A139). Bit on the pricier side, but all new things come at a cost. And you definitely want quality with a Dash Cam. Those cheapies will let you down!
 
So who do folks purchase their VIOFOs from these days?

I usually buy my Dash Cams from Rick @ Dashcams Central up in Sydney ... only his website has been under maintenance for quite a while now so no idea whether he's still in the Dashcam business or not..? Doesn't appear so.
it's Chris from Dashcams Central, he's a member here but hasn't been online for a while https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/dashcamscentral-dod-and-viofo-specialists.11425/ not sure if he is still in the business or not, there are other sellers in Australia if you don't have any luck getting a hold of Chris
 
@Moon viofo.com.au doesn't seem updated, or is expensive? Just curious why that isn't the default choice.
 
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