realistically it's perhaps closer to the update version of the A118C which is being released soon, has a better lens than current A118C models which is what holds that one back from performing better, we still have some other upgrades we're looking at for this model, not really trying to compete with that product at all, we had the SGZC12SS which was a lower cost more basic version of one of our other models and we had customers that wanted something basic and reliable that was easily moved from car to car but that camera was still a bit big so this is a better fit for that type of consumer