VIOFO's A119S

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08/06/2018

No X’s, screen corruption or any other stability issues in the last 6 months, consistent performance since firmware version 2.2.

My front and rear cameras (SG9665GC and A119S) are hardwired using a Vico-Power Plus, so if needed I can leave both recording while the car is parked. Had them recording 24x7 for 7 and 9 days during my two out-of-state trips three months ago. FWIW both performed flawlessly!

Would I recommend the A119S?

Based solely on my experience with this unit, yes.

Based on recent reports about units not being able to get past the VIOFO logo and partial screen corruption reports still coming. Reliability wise, your mileage may vary.

My pick from the A119 series - A119 V2. IMO it’s a safer buy. Better daytime quality and good low-light performance as well.


07/01/2018

What I like and don’t after having the A119S mounted in my car for the past year.

Like

Video quality is good, both day and night, exceptional low-light performance. Be it low-light or complete darkness, the IMX291 sees a lot more than any other sensor currently being housed in dash cams.

Wedge design - As mostly just the lens is visible below the windshield's dotted area, looks very discreet when compared to dash cams that hang off a suction cup mount or similar adhesive mounts.

Lens adjustment mechanism has held up well. Even though it feels a little loose to the touch, doesn’t droop on its own.

Don’t like

Reliability was a miss, mainly due to the X-boxes bug (twice during May and then in June and November). Three firmware revisions later, version 2.2 released a month back claims to have finally squashed this long standing bug.

Audio - Conversations, ticking from the indicator and even sounds from outside the car are loud and clear but there’s a constant buzz/hiss that accompanies the audio. Most common suggestions are to power it using a wall charger or a power bank and see if the issue persists (a pointless test as the camera is not going to be used with a power bank or plugged into a wall charger). Point is, if my SG9665GC can remain immune to such interference while using the same power supply and cables, I think this could definitely be improved upon.

Erratic behaviour when powered using 3rd party USB cables - Again, Mini-USB cables from Monoprice that work flawlessly with my other dash cams (SG9665GC, Mobius and A119) caused intermittent file and firmware corruption with the A119S.

Nitpicking

I know it’s not an action cam but nonetheless, red orange and yellow looks oversaturated.

Suggestions

Better quality control - Foreign objects embedded on the lens, improper alignment of the SD card slot, red light leaking through the lens housing and below the Record button (on my recently bought A119 V2), takes away from the feel-good factor.

Inclusion of angled wedge fillers for the mount, like the ones included with one of the Mini models. A comparatively narrow FOV doesn’t allow a centred view; if the camera is not actually mounted exactly in the centre.

As much as they are already, IMO VIOFO’s representatives need to be a little more participative and communicative.

Do I recommend the A119S?

If I don’t see the X-boxes or screen corruption for another 6 months, then yes, a definite yes.

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Going forth I plan on using the A119S mostly as a rear camera. Will keep adding videos as new firmware revisions with IQ changes/enhancements are released.

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07/01/2017

Received a retail-version unit of the A119S from VIOFO to sample.

First impressions

The A119S's housing looks and feels like it's put together well, finishing looks good too. The buttons are easy to click but firm.

An improved lens adjustment mechanism holds the lens housing firmly. The extra movement/play in between the preset notches, which IMO is a design flaw with their A118/A118C housing, isn't as much an issue here. :)

The little indent around the SD card slot makes inserting and retrieving the card a whole lot easier in comparison to the older housing design.

Lots of ventilation holes on all sides, the lens housing front has ventilation slots too. Should help keep things cooler inside during peak summer months.

As mentioned earlier in a different thread, I'd like to reiterate that VIOFO should include a right angled USB connector, at least for customers opting for the non-GPS package. Will result in a cleaner looking install.

Unboxing

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Included - A119S, quick start guide, 3 mounts (regular, angled and GPS), 30 cm mini USB cable, 3.5 M mini USB cable, 2 port 3.1 A USB car charger, one spare adhesive pad for the mounts, wire management clips and a piece of string for sawing off adhesive mounts.
 
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CPL

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CPL attached. Clicks into the grooves on the lens housing.

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A permanent speck/imperfection on the outer glass of the lens. Better QC expected.

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Videos - Firmware V. 1.2 onwards - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/my-a119s.26309/

Videos - Firmware V. 1.6.0.1B / 1.7 onwards (front and rear) - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/viofos-a119s.26309/page-8#post-343550

Videos - Firmware V. 2.0B onwards - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/viofos-a119s.26309/page-13#post-353645

Videos - Firmware V. 2.1 onwards (front and rear) - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/viofos-a119s.26309/page-17#post-362442

Videos - Firmware V. 2.2 onwards (rear) - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/viofos-a119s.26309/page-24#post-376660

Videos - Firmware V. 2.4 onwards (front and rear) - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/viofos-a119s.26309/page-27#post-394515

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Comparison with the A119 (front and rear) - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/viofo-a119-a119s.31316/

Comparison with the SG9665GC V2 (front and rear) - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/viofo-a119s-imx291-street-guardian-sg9665gc-v2-imx322.26445/

Rear mounted comparison with the Mobius - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/my-a119s.26309/page-3#post-317255

Rear mounted comparison with the Mobius (4mm, 1/2.5", f/1.2) - https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/mobius-telephoto-dashcam.31523/page-5#post-379519

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VIOFO A119S ( F.W. V. 1.0) - 1080p @ 60 FPS, WDR - On.

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Afternoon - Overcast


https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfkc3xkgv31ktrm/evening.mp4?dl=0

Night - Slow moving traffic


Night - Highway drive, CPL attached


Night - No street lights, headlights turned off in between (DRL's still On)


Night - Foggy


Night with CPL - Oncoming headlight glare


Night - No street lighting, next to the Street Guardian SG9665GC



Camera vibrating due to the subwoofer. Could this be attributed to the mount being hollow? Never faced this issue with the regular mounts on the A118C and SG9665GC.

 
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Getting a similar in-video banding and noise in the audio with the A119S.

The SG9665GC is being powered by an identical Monoprice cable and does not exhibit such interference, both cables are brand new and were installed together a couple of days back. Switching the two cables between both the cameras does not resolve the issue either. Both cables connect to a Aukey 4 port USB car charger that has been powering my SG9665GC, M1 and M2 without any issues for over four months.

Will switch the Monoprice cable with what VIOFO has supplied and see if that makes a difference. Else I'll try powering it with both the charger and cable supplied by VIOFO and check if the problem persists.

I've even moved the GC's GPS receiver to the top left corner of the windshield from the dotted area where the cameras are mounted.

Audio interference


Banding - the interference peaks at startup (worse with cold starts) and settles to just a buzz after a few minutes.


Severe banding and noise when dark

 
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Thanks for the review and photos and videos mate, well done. Looks pretty good for all that it is. High standards from Viofo as per usual - perhaps the issues are just a super rare defect occurrence.

Has anyone on DashcamTalk tested the new Viofo four port USB charger with safety glass smashrr
 
Thanks for the review and photos and videos mate, well done. Looks pretty good for all that it is. High standards from Viofo as per usual - perhaps the issues are just a super rare defect occurrence.

As I received the camera just a few days back and am still playing around with it, have just covered the superficial changes and improvements that I could see in comparison to their older model housing. Will definitely post a review after a few months of use.

The speck on the lens IMO too seems like an isolated incident. The interference issue, I'll get to the bottom of and sort out tomorrow.
 
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VIOFO A119S (F.W. V. 1.0) - 1080p @ 60 FPS, WDR - On.

The bitrate on an average stays around 20-25 MB/s but with scenes where there is a lot of information being captured, it spikes up to around 40 MB/s at times. File size varies between 460MB - 615MB for a 3 minute segment.

Daytime


https://www.dropbox.com/s/mleaccq3b2u3ndh/dnd.mp4?dl=0

With CPL


https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhti7yyo33acyav/day.mp4?dl=0

Driving towards the sun with tree cover on the sides


https://www.dropbox.com/s/6u0ig48y8g9pwqt/no cpl sun.mp4?dl=0

With CPL


https://www.dropbox.com/s/94l12ex889whc8f/cpl sun.mp4?dl=0

Driving towards the sun


https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsjvi1lctks7sj1/sun head on bp.mp4?dl=0

Driving away from the sun


https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfmd40erq8nzn22/sun behind bp.mp4?dl=0

Sunny, overhead tree cover


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ovklox4nnspdrqr/trees sun no cpl.mp4?dl=0

With CPL


https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kd3big553200zb/trees sun cpl.mp4?dl=0

YT doesn't like some of the stretches above (creates havoc with the M2 and the GC too), major macro-blocking in the YT encoded versions. Horrible! RAW files are linked.

Driving towards and then turning away for the sun


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebudcij8i9yrgt3/turn lighting.mp4?dl=0

The videos from the A119S have an orangish tinge under some lighting conditions on a sunny day, can be seen in some of the videos above too. Comparison with the SG9665GC below.


Have more comparisons that I wanted to share but with the lens/mount position and the dash + bonnet coverage of both the cameras not being exactly in a line, will correct the mounting and lens angle before sharing any further comparisons. The narrower angle and the slight elevation due to the GPS mount does make it a bit tricky to get that perfectly centred position.

@viofo Which metering mode is being used in V 1.0?

Overall I definitely like what I see from the IMX291 and the A119S's first firmware. With the right development the A119S could be a serious contender, both night and day. Looks very promising!

Will be giving it a spin in the rear too, lets see how that pans out.
 
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Camera vibrating due to the subwoofer. Could this be attributed to the mount being hollow? Never faced this issue with the regular mounts on the A118C and SG9665GC.


I've cut up and pasted a EVA foam pad to the mount, the fit has become super tight, will check the result tomorrow.

The EVA foam pad pasted to the a119S's GPS mount has successfully eliminated all vibrations that were reaching the camera due to the subwoofer. So relieved! :)

Getting a similar in-video banding and noise in the audio with my A119S as well.

The SG9665GC is being powered by an identical Monoprice cable and does not exhibit such interference, both cables are brand new and were installed together a couple of days back. Switching the two cables between both the cameras does not resolve the issue either. Both cables connect to a Aukey 4 port USB car charger that has been powering my SG9665GC, M1 and M2 without any issues for over four months.

Will switch the Monoprice cable with what VIOFO has supplied and see if that makes a difference. Else I'll try powering it with both the charger and cable supplied by VIOFO and check if the problem persists.

I've even moved the GC's GPS receiver to the top left corner of the windshield from the dotted area where the cameras are mounted.

Audio interference


Banding - the interference peaks at startup (worse with cold starts) and settles to just a buzz after a few minutes.


Severe banding and noise when dark


Tested the supplied cable + charger, also tested the supplied cable with the Aukey charger. Both take care of the banding issue but the buzz; though reduced is still very much there.
The M1 is the only other camera with which I've experience the persistent buzz/hum/crackle and a bit of banding on cold starts.
 
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Comparison with the SG9665GC V2

VIOFO A119S (F.W V. 1.0) - 1080p @ 60 FPS, WDR - On, CPL - Yes.

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Street Guardian SG9665GC (F.W V. Update 4) - 1080p @ 30 FPS, WDR - On, Metering - Centre, Contrast - Medium, CPL - Yes.

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Early evening - 1

A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRV3lhTExRRnFjOVk

SG9665GC V2


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfReGVjRHJWdFprakE

Combined



Early evening - 2

A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRQ1hxWjZmX3U5OXc

SG9665GC V2


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRa3d4V3gtTkR4blk

Combined



Evening - 1

A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRT3VveTJKVFJTejg

SG9665GC V2


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRNURnQ0J2am5pNDQ

Combined

 
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A119S gives sharpen image while SG is gives more vivid/contrasty one
 
VIOFO A119S (F.W V. 1.0) - 1080p @ 60 FPS, WDR - On, CPL - No.

Street Guardian SG9665GC (F.W V. Update 4) - 1080p @ 30 FPS, WDR - On, Metering - Centre, Contrast - Medium, CPL - No.

Early evening.

Tree lined road.

A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRZF9Seng4YXJkekU

SG9665GC


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRZ2F2Rm9xaExVeEU

Combined


Away from the sun.

A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfROTg2MVZvanhyUmM

SG9665GC


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRRXBsRnZGRmNpbnM

Combined


Towards the sun.

A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRYldlZ3dzcGhmRkk

SG9665GC


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRZXcyZFBibHd0Z3M

Combined

 
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VIOFO A119S (F.W V. 1.0) - 1080p @ 60 FPS, WDR - On, CPL - No.

Street Guardian SG9665GC (F.W V. Update 4) - 1080p @ 30 FPS, WDR - On, Metering - Centre, Contrast - Medium, CPL - No.

Night.

A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRNWRGT2s0SmlzSzQ

SG9665GC


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRTlBETkI4aV94cTA

Combined



A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfROFZ0VUFMbUpBTHc

SG9665GC


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRYXBkZW5DeEpFNUk

Combined



A119S


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRcjREeFQ1T01wcVk

SG9665GC


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B97KXpJ3jAfRSEVhM085NmRpYms

Combined

 
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Night.

Foggy

A119S


SG9665GC


Combined

 
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