Vueroid S1-4K Improvement Wishlist

[Chuck McCoy]

After testing / using S1-4K for four months here’s my unreasonable / unrealistic, fantasy / prediction, improvement wishlist.

1.) Improved night time HDR performance for Rear Camera
2.) Optional Accessory CPL Filter for Rear Camera
3.) Reduce Video Enhancing Modes from 3 to 2, (Normal & HDR + IPC)

4.) Increase Front Camera Bitrate from 48 Mbps to 65 Mbps (4K30fps 1CH, 2CH, 3CH configuration)
5.) Increase Front Camera Bitrate from 53 Mbps to 97 Mbps (4K60fps 1CH configuration)
6.) Increase Rear Camera Bitrate from 22 Mbps to 28 Mbps
7.) Upgrade IR Interior Camera from STARVIS 1 (IMX307) to STARVIS 2 (IMX675)
8.) Remote Camera Modularity, (use any remote camera with any camera input)
9.) Remote Camera Modularity, (use 2 rear cameras, or 2 interior cameras)
10.) In 4K60fps 3CH configuration, discontinue 15fps setting for rear & interior cameras, (normal / driving recording)

11.) Zeiss Lens (all cameras)
12.) Increase Front Camera Unit by 5mm in every dimension to accommodate larger heat sink to dissipate more heat

13.) Increase standard warranty from 12 Months to 18 Months
14.) Increase warranty with registration from 18 Months to 24 Months
15.) Include 64GB Vueroid Brand SD Card (just like Thinkware & BlackVue)
16.) Fully detachable cables for all remotes cameras, (not permanently attached pigtail)
17.) Optional Accessory 3 Meter extension cable for IR Interior Camera, (to mount on rear window)

18.) Optional Accessory 1 Meter “short” cable for Rear camera
19.) Optional Accessory External Microphone
20.) Upgrade Mono Audio to 2CH Audio
21.) Optional Accessory 2K (IMX675) Telephoto Camera with (HDR + IPC)
22.) Continuous Recording Parking Mode with Audio, (Low Bitrate)
23.) Upgrade Wi-Fi 5 to Wi-Fi 6 (download transfer speed from 18MB/s to 40MB/s)
24.) Upgrade Type-C Input / Output from USB 2.0 to USB 3.0
25.) Dual Micro SD Card slots
26.) 2TB Micro SD card support, (4TB total capacity)
27.) Lens Adjustment Line in smartphone APP & LCD Screen

28.) Upgrade Video Codec from H.264 to AV1
29.) Optional Setting: 12 Hour Clock - AM/PM

30.) 1, 2, 3, 5, 10 Minute Loop Recording
31.) Optional placement of Text Stamp, (top or bottom of recorded footage) video explanation stolen from @BlackboxMyCar

32.) Optional Custom Text Stamp for driver name, license plate, etc.

33.) Optional Text Stamp Colors, (yellow with black background like GNET)

34.) Reduce Text Stamp delay from 12 Seconds to 2 Seconds on start up & ELPM wakeup

 

[VUEROiD]

I think it'll take some time.
Wait for me, Chuck~~!

 

[qusejr2]

After testing / using S1-4K for four months here’s my unreasonable / unrealistic, fantasy / prediction, improvement wishlist.

1.) Improved night time HDR performance for Rear Camera
2.) Optional Accessory CPL Filter for Rear Camera
3.) Reduce Video Enhancing Modes from 3 to 2, (Normal & HDR + IPC)

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4.) Increase Front Camera Bitrate from 48 Mbps to 65 Mbps (4K30fps 1CH, 2CH, 3CH configuration)
5.) Increase Front Camera Bitrate from 53 Mbps to 97 Mbps (4K60fps 1CH configuration)
6.) Increase Rear Camera Bitrate from 22 Mbps to 28 Mbps
7.) Upgrade IR Interior Camera from STARVIS 1 (IMX307) to STARVIS 2 (IMX675)
8.) Remote Camera Modularity, (use any remote camera with any camera input)
9.) Remote Camera Modularity, (use 2 rear cameras, or 2 interior cameras)
10.) Discontinue 15fps setting for rear & interior cameras, (normal / driving recording)

11.) Zeiss Lens (all cameras)
12.) Increase Front Camera Unit by 5mm in every dimension to accommodate larger heat sink to dissipate more heat

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13.) Increase standard warranty from 12 Months to 18 Months
14.) Increase warranty with registration from 18 Months to 24 Months
15.) Include 64GB Vueroid Brand SD Card (just like Thinkware & BlackVue)
16.) Fully detachable cables for all remotes cameras, (not permanently attached pigtail)
17.) Optional Accessory 3 Meter extension cable for IR Interior Camera, (to mount on rear window)

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18.) Optional Accessory 1 Meter “short” cable for Rear camera
19.) Optional Accessory External Microphone
20.) Upgrade Mono Audio to 2CH Audio
21.) Optional Accessory 2K (IMX675) Telephoto Camera with (HDR + IPC)
22.) Continuous Recording Parking Mode with Audio, (Low Bitrate)
23.) Upgrade Wi-Fi 5 to Wi-Fi 6 (download transfer speed from 18MB/s to 40MB/s)
24.) Upgrade Type-C Input / Output from USB 2.0 to USB 3.0
25.) Dual Micro SD Card slots
26.) 2TB Micro SD card support, (4TB total capacity)
27.) Lens Adjustment Line in smartphone APP & LCD Screen

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28.) Upgrade Video Codec from H.264 to AV1
29.) Optional Setting: 12 Hour Clock - AM/PM

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30.) 1, 2, 3, 5, 10 Minute Loop Recording
31.) Optional placement of Text Stamp, (top or bottom of recorded footage) video explanation stolen from @BlackboxMyCar

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32.) Optional Custom Text Stamp for driver name, license plate, etc.

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33.) Optional Text Stamp Colors, (yellow with black background like GNET)

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34.) Reduce Text Stamp delay from 12 Seconds to 2 Seconds on start up & ELPM wakeup

thank for your wishlist.. we will consider your list whenever possible.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

thank for your wishlist.. we will consider your list whenever possible.

Pay little attention to my silly requests, the real improvement wishlist will come from;
@rcg530
@SafeDriveSolutions
@Vortex Radar
@lufa6977
@TonyM
@Karagandinez
And whoever else received a test unit, and of course your paying customers.

 

[Karagandinez]

3.) Reduce Video Enhancing Modes from 3 to 2, (Normal & HDR + IPC)

Why should HDR mode be removed?
When HDR mode is enabled, and the timer switches, we still have the same Normal mode before HDR turns on.
I like HDR mode with its on-timer. I think many people like it too.
There's no need to remove HDR mode.
Leave the choice to the users. Everyone will decide for themselves which mode suits them best.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

Why should HDR mode be removed?

After more testing you'll see why.
The timer can be applied to (HDR + IPC).

 

[Karagandinez]

The timer can be applied to (HDR + IPC).

I completely agree with this.
During the day, it should be: Normal + IPC, and when the timer is activated, it should be: HDR + IPC.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

During the day, it should be: Normal + IPC, and when the timer is activated, it should be: HDR + IPC.

I think you mean (HDR + IPC) 24/7. lol

 

[Karagandinez]

I think you mean (HDR + IPC) 24/7. lol

What I meant is what I wrote.
If you're happy with the 24/7 (HDR + IPC) setting, then that's your choice.
I'm not happy with the readability of license plates in cloudy weather with the HDR + IPC setting, so I turn on the HDR + Timer setting.
I miss the Normal + IPC setting with timer switching to HDR + IPC.

Don't worry. Remember that we live in different regions. What works for you may not work for me.

 

[VUEROiD]

So I've finished my homework.

1.) Improved night time HDR performance for Rear Camera
James - I fully agree and understand your point. I will do my best to make improvements where possible, and we can definitely implement this in the next products.


2.) Optional Accessory CPL Filter for Rear Camera
James -I don’t think we can provide a CPL for the current rear camera in the same way as we do for the front camera, due to the shape of its housing.
However, I will check if there’s any alternative solution. We will consider adding a CPL for the rear camera in the future.


3.) Reduce Video Enhancing Modes from 3 to 2, (Normal & HDR + IPC)
James - Could you specify the reason for this?
As you mentioned in another thread, a dashcam should be ready for unpredictable situations, and HDR+IPC can be more helpful in certain moments than HDR alone.


4.) Increase Front Camera Bitrate from 48 Mbps to 65 Mbps (4K30fps 1CH, 2CH, 3CH configuration)
5.) Increase Front Camera Bitrate from 53 Mbps to 97 Mbps (4K60fps 1CH configuration)
6.) Increase Rear Camera Bitrate from 22 Mbps to 28 Mbps
James - May I ask the reason for this?
I'm also very curious about the specific figures you mentioned — why that is, and what kind of results you expect from it.


7.) Upgrade IR Interior Camera from STARVIS 1 (IMX307) to STARVIS 2 (IMX675)
James - I think it would be better if the question were FHD → QHD.
I don’t deny that the IMX657 is popular and somewhat the de facto standard in the market.
There are many players in the automotive field, such as ON Semiconductor, Omnivision, Samsung, and STMicroelectronics (which is quite specialized in in-cabin camera sensors).
We’re not certain about adopting the IMX675, but we will positively consider using a QHD image sensor for the in-cabin camera.


8.) Remote Camera Modularity, (use any remote camera with any camera input)
9.) Remote Camera Modularity, (use 2 rear cameras, or 2 interior cameras)
James - If I’m not mistaken, I’ve already addressed this once before.
It took me a while to find it, but I did! 😉
Interestingly, it was asked by you, Chuck~ 😡
It should be quite complicated, but I’ll keep checking the possibility.


10.) Discontinue 15fps setting for rear & interior cameras, (normal / driving recording)
James - I also really dislike 15fps. It was an unavoidable mode we had to include in order to maintain 60fps for the front camera and support 3 channels simultaneously.
You know this is because the maximum bandwidth that the SoC can support. Please consider it an option that will likely be removed in the future.

But Chuck, when you ask like that, people who just skim through might think the S1-4K itself only records at 15fps.
For example, couldn’t you have phrased it a bit more clearly, like “when the front camera is set to 4K 60fps and the system configured as 3CH…”?
Among the many combinations S1-4K provide, there’s only one that operates at 15fps — so it felt a bit disappointing that you picked only that one addressed.


11.) Zeiss Lens (all cameras)
James - Oh~~ I honestly don’t know how to respond to this one. Zeiss Lens…
As far as I know, the major manufacturers recognized for producing lenses used in automotive before market cameras are Sunex, Sunny Optical, Nidec Copal, and so on.
From what you mentioned, I understand that Zeiss is a company known for its premium and high quality lenses, but I’ll try to find other manufacturers that can match that level. 😉

From a quick look, it seems that Zeiss mainly develops manual focusing lenses, which makes them unsuitable for our use.
They appear to provide customized, high performance lenses for very specific applications.
In such cases, if we were to go into mass production, efficiency would inevitably drop significantly.
Feel like you ask me to purchase the Ferrari for my normal life because it’s performance is excellent.
While the performance might be excellent, if there were additional budget to invest, I would personally prefer to allocate it toward a higher performance SoC and a larger form factor image sensor instead.


12.) Increase Front Camera Unit by 5mm in every dimension to accommodate larger heat sink to dissipate more heat
James - That’s a good suggestion. I think our hardware engineers would really like it.
However, in reality, it’s not that easy.
One might think, “Just make it 5mm bigger and add it,” but in the development process, it’s more like having to find the room first and then carefully fit all the items in as efficiently as possible.
And in this process, heat is not the only thing to be cared about.


13.) Increase standard warranty from 12 Months to 18 Months
14.) Increase warranty with registration from 18 Months to 24 Months
James - I’ve replied to the question.


15.) Include 64GB Vueroid Brand SD Card (just like Thinkware & BlackVue)
James - I will consider this positively.


16.) Fully detachable cables for all remotes cameras, (not permanently attached pigtail)
James - Several times You mentioned this assuming that the pigtail cable fails, but I also understand the sturdiness of the camera connection provided by the pigtail.
I especially think it’s aesthetically superior.
While most future products will likely be developed in the form you mentioned, I can’t promise that all of them will be.
If a camera with a pigtail is developed again in the future, I’ll make sure to let you know in advance~~ 😉

 

[VUEROiD]

17.) Optional Accessory 3 Meter extension cable for IR Interior Camera, (to mount on rear window)
James - It will be available. BTW, can you explain why it should be 3 Meter?


18.) Optional Accessory 1 Meter “short” cable for Rear camera
James - Can I ask the reason for this, too?


19.) Optional Accessory External Microphone
James - I think you’re referring to limitations that simply increasing the dashcam’s built-in microphone sensitivity can’t solve.
I have a rough idea of your intention, but… may I ask where you’re planning to install it?


20.) Upgrade Mono Audio to 2CH Audio
James - Customers who value audio may prefer this, but for those who don’t, it’s a specification that adds unnecessary cost(Not just component cost only).
We will consider it, but I think it may compromise fairness.
It would be more reasonable to consider a bit better-performing mono audio instead.
Is it to recognize the direction from which the sound is coming?


21.) Optional Accessory 2K (IMX675) Telephoto Camera with (HDR + IPC)
James - Developing a telephoto camera isn’t difficult, but I’m not yet fully convinced that it’s something the market truly demands.
However, I do recognize the importance of offering customers a variety of options, so I expect it will be available soon.
Please understand that we’ve only just entered the market. 😉


22.) Continuous Recording Parking Mode with Audio, (Low Bitrate)
James - We are also considering this positively.


23.) Upgrade Wi-Fi 5 to Wi-Fi 6 (download transfer speed from 18MB/s to 40MB/s)
James - I don’t see any reason not to do it, but we will apply it according to the product’s planning concept.


24.) Upgrade Type-C Input / Output from USB 2.0 to USB 3.0
James - There are many behind-the-scenes stories, but I can’t go into all of them here.
I can say that it is planned for future implementation.


25.) Dual Micro SD Card slots
James - This has been discussed internally.
I believe this feature could also be implemented if it aligns with the product’s purpose and intent.


26.) 2TB Micro SD card support, (4TB total capacity)
James - Honestly, there’s no reason it couldn’t be done, but it needs to work in harmony with the TFF file system we provide.
This will require extensive internal discussion and won’t be implemented in the short term, but we are exploring it through another approach.
Personally, I’m hoping we might be able to surprise everyone with it in the future.


27.) Lens Adjustment Line in smartphone APP & LCD Screen
James - We will review this positively.


28.) Upgrade Video Codec from H.264 to AV1
James - I will discuss this with the software team.


29.) Optional Setting: 12 Hour Clock – AM/PM
James - It seems this can be implemented through a firmware upgrade. I would say it’s just a matter of timing.


30.) 1, 2, 3, 5, 10 Minute Loop Recording
James - This isn’t impossible either, but due to the characteristic of TFF, it’s not something that can be easily modified from an efficiency perspective.
While we could meet the feature if implemented, it could also increase the burden on customers.


31.) Optional placement of Text Stamp (top or bottom of recorded footage) video explanation stolen from @BlackboxMyCar
James - The lower part is the most commonly used location because it’s generally where the hood is positioned.
I’m not sure how many people would want to use a location other than this.
Could you provide some additional explanation on the practicality of placing it at the top?


32.) Optional Custom Text Stamp for driver name, license plate, etc.
33.) Optional Text Stamp Colors (yellow with black background like GNET)
James - It seems like a good feature. We will consider adding it.


34.) Reduce Text Stamp delay from 12 Seconds to 2 Seconds on start up & ELPM wakeup
James - This isn’t possible. Due to the specific boot scenario, it’s difficult to display a stamp at the booting point.
It might be possible to show some fixed static stamp, but I don’t think it would have any meaningful value.
Have you asked this question to BlackVue or Thinkware?



One thing I’d like to mention is that I truly appreciate your wish list—it clearly shows how much you care about VUEROID.
At the same time, I’d like to suggest giving a “praise list” as well, just once, with the same honesty.
A bit of tough feedback can push us to run harder, but compliments and claps make it more effective.

Have a great day~

 

[Chuck McCoy]

So I've finished my homework.

One thing I’d like to mention is that I truly appreciate your wish list—it clearly shows how much you care about VUEROID.
At the same time, I’d like to suggest giving a “praise list” as well, just once, with the same honesty.
A bit of tough feedback can push us to run harder, but compliments and claps make it more effective.

Hello James,
I owe you, and the team an apology.
As you can see I severely lack social grace, and decorum.
This is just a short reply, I’ll answer each of your questions in a bit.
I’m currently working on my “S1-4K Pros & Cons & Final Thoughts”.

You also give me too much credit.
95% of my wishlist is “ravings of a madman”.
That’s why I put a trigger warning in the very first sentence.

“here’s my unreasonable / unrealistic, fantasy / prediction, improvement wishlist”

Right now Viofo is probably chuckling, and might say; “Welcome to the club”.
They have endured my fanatical annual wishlists since 2023, and one for each model I’ve tested since 2022.
There’s a reason I don’t have improvement wishlists for BlackVue, Thinkware, FineVu, Vantrue, 70mai, RedTiger, Wolfbox, etc.
I only make improvement wishlists for cameras I actually like, would recommend, or would buy with my own money.
So lucky you. lol
-Chuck

 

[VUEROiD]

Hello James,
I owe you, and the team an apology.
As you can see I severely lack social grace, and decorum.
This is just a short reply, I’ll answer each of your questions in a bit.
I’m currently working on my “S1-4K Pros & Cons & Final Thoughts”.

You also give me too much credit.
95% of my wishlist is “ravings of a madman”.
That’s why I put a trigger warning in the very first sentence.

“here’s my unreasonable / unrealistic, fantasy / prediction, improvement wishlist”

Right now Viofo is probably chuckling, and might say; “Welcome to the club”.
They have endured my fanatical annual wishlists since 2023, and one for each model I’ve tested since 2022.
There’s a reason I don’t have improvement wishlists for BlackVue, Thinkware, FineVu, Vantrue, 70mai, RedTiger, Wolfbox, etc.
I only make improvement wishlists for cameras I actually like, would recommend, or would buy with my own money.
So lucky you. lol
-Chuck

I really hope to meet you in person at your lab again sometime this year. 😉

 

[Chuck McCoy]

3.) Reduce Video Enhancing Modes from 3 to 2, (Normal & HDR + IPC)
James - Could you specify the reason for this?
As you mentioned in another thread, a dashcam should be ready for unpredictable situations, and HDR+IPC can be more helpful in certain moments than HDR alone.

What I’m trying to say is, now that IPC is automatically enabled / disabled according to ambient lighting conditions having a separate HDR mode is unnecessary.
We just need the two;
1.) Normal
2.) HDR + IPC

4.) Increase Front Camera Bitrate from 48 Mbps to 65 Mbps (4K30fps 1CH, 2CH, 3CH configuration)
5.) Increase Front Camera Bitrate from 53 Mbps to 97 Mbps (4K60fps 1CH configuration)
6.) Increase Rear Camera Bitrate from 22 Mbps to 28 Mbps
James - May I ask the reason for this?
I'm also very curious about the specific figures you mentioned — why that is, and what kind of results you expect from it.

Viofo A329S;
89 Mbps Front (4K60fps 1CH configuration)
66 Mbps Front (4K30fps 1CH, 2CH, 3CH configuration)
27 Mbps 3CH Rear
27 Mbps 3CH Interior
More bitrate = more detail

8.) Remote Camera Modularity, (use any remote camera with any camera input)
9.) Remote Camera Modularity, (use 2 rear cameras, or 2 interior cameras)
James - If I’m not mistaken, I’ve already addressed this once before.
It took me a while to find it, but I did!😉
Interestingly, it was asked by you, Chuck~ 😡
It should be quite complicated, but I’ll keep checking the possibility.

That's why I said upgrade Interior camera from IMX307 to IMX675, (same as rear) because it should be easier to obtain functional modularity.
8.) (use any remote camera with any camera input)
9.) (use 2 rear cameras, or 2 interior cameras)

10.) Discontinue 15fps setting for rear & interior cameras, (normal / driving recording)
James - I also really dislike 15fps. It was an unavoidable mode we had to include in order to maintain 60fps for the front camera and support 3 channels simultaneously.
You know this is because the maximum bandwidth that the SoC can support. Please consider it an option that will likely be removed in the future.

Sorry about that, I made the correction.

12.) Increase Front Camera Unit by 5mm in every dimension to accommodate larger heat sink to dissipate more heat
James - That’s a good suggestion. I think our hardware engineers would really like it.
However, in reality, it’s not that easy.
One might think, “Just make it 5mm bigger and add it,” but in the development process, it’s more like having to find the room first and then carefully fit all the items in as efficiently as possible.
And in this process, heat is not the only thing to be cared about.

85Mbps Total Bitrate = 48Mbps Front + 22Mbps Rear + 15Mbps Interior (S1-4K 3CH)
120Mbps Total Bitrate = 66Mbps Front + 27Mbps Rear + 27Mbps Interior (A329S 3CH)

166℉ (75℃) Operating Temperature (S1-4K 3CH)
147℉ (64℃) Operating Temperature (A329S 3CH)

S1-4K runs 35Mbps less Bitrate, and 19℉ (11℃) hotter.

19.) Optional Accessory External Microphone
James - I think you’re referring to limitations that simply increasing the dashcam’s built-in microphone sensitivity can’t solve.
I have a rough idea of your intention, but… may I ask where you’re planning to install it?

Optional external microphone in the rear would be nice for two applications;
1.) Ride Share Drivers
2.) Traffic Stops

20.) Upgrade Mono Audio to 2CH Audio
James - Customers who value audio may prefer this, but for those who don’t, it’s a specification that adds unnecessary cost(Not just component cost only).
We will consider it, but I think it may compromise fairness.
It would be more reasonable to consider a bit better-performing mono audio instead.
Is it to recognize the direction from which the sound is coming?

Yes, one channel could be for built-in microphone in front camera, second channel could be for external microphone in rear of car.

31.) Optional placement of Text Stamp (top or bottom of recorded footage) video explanation stolen from @BlackboxMyCar
James - The lower part is the most commonly used location because it’s generally where the hood is positioned.
I’m not sure how many people would want to use a location other than this.
Could you provide some additional explanation on the practicality of placing it at the top?

When the sun is low in the sky, (morning & evening) text at the bottom becomes illegible caused by windshield glare superimposed over dashboard, hood, windshield wipers, etc.
Optional placement of text, (at the top) does not have this issue.

 

[lufa6977]

What I’m trying to say is, now that IPC is automatically enabled / disabled according to ambient lighting conditions having a separate HDR mode is unnecessary.
We just need the two;
1.) Normal
2.) HDR + IPC

Without understanding the lens, software, and CMOS technology, you do not know that.

Viofo A329S;
89 Mbps Front (4K60fps 1CH configuration)
66 Mbps Front (4K30fps 1CH, 2CH, 3CH configuration)
27 Mbps 3CH Rear
27 Mbps 3CH Interior
More bitrate = more detail

I can't argue that. But the S1 4K did not shut down at high temperatures. On the other hand, both of my A229 Pros shut down. Always a balance.

That's why I said upgrade Interior camera from IMX307 to IMX675, (same as rear) because it should be easier to obtain functional modularity.
8.) (use any remote camera with any camera input)
9.) (use 2 rear cameras, or 2 interior cameras)

I have asked VIOFO to do that for several years now. There can be technical restrictions and increased costs.

Sorry about that, I made the correction.

85Mbps Total Bitrate = 48Mbps Front + 22Mbps Rear + 15Mbps Interior (S1-4K 3CH)
120Mbps Total Bitrate = 66Mbps Front + 27Mbps Rear + 27Mbps Interior (A329S 3CH)

166℉ (75℃) Operating Temperature (S1-4K 3CH)
147℉ (64℃) Operating Temperature (A329S 3CH)

S1-4K runs 35Mbps less Bitrate, and 19℉ (11℃) hotter.

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And yet, the S1 4K continued to operate.

Optional external microphone in the rear would be nice for two applications;
1.) Ride Share Drivers
2.) Traffic Stops

Yes, one channel could be for built-in microphone in front camera, second channel could be for external microphone in rear of car.

More microphones are unneeded. My S1 4K picks up people talking in my yard, on the street, and standing at the end of my car. If anything, this microphone is too sensitive.

When the sun is low in the sky, (morning & evening) text at the bottom becomes illegible caused by windshield glare superimposed over dashboard, hood, windshield wipers, etc.
Optional placement of text, (at the top) does not have this issue.

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People should be paying attention to the road, not the LCD screen. Even if parked, use the app. When parked facing the sun, the screen of a dashcam can be hard to see. When that happens, I simply change my point of view.

 

[ANI]

Vueroid S1-4K seems to draw only somewhere around 1mA in ELPM parking mode, which can be considered practically as pure background noise compared to a normal parasitic draw of a modern car (~ 50 mA, if I understand correctly). So the protection that ELPM offers to a parked car could be said to be practically "free" in this regard.

On the other hand, the ELPM has one drawback compared to buffered parking modes, namely that should something evil happen to my car, its probative value (at least under some jurisdictions) is clearly less than that of a buffered parking mode which records the event itself, leaving less room to "lawyer speculation" that we often see in courts.

So this brought up a question in my mind, could it be possible to introduce a "~VIOFO-style" hybrid parking mode in Vueroid, too.

I think that in Vueroid it would provide even more added value to the parking scheme, due to Vueroid's minimal power consumption in ELPM.

In the hybrid parking mode, the parking mode could start just like now, i.e. either buffered or time lapse , and after either the timer or cut-off voltage limit is reached (whichever first), the cam would simply not power off but instead switch to ELPM mode.

(And if one would wanted to be a perfectionist, the cut-off voltage selection could offer two selections for this hybrid mode; one voltage for switching over to ELPM and another voltage to completely power off the camera. Although I'm not sure if that would be needed at all. I guess that it would not be necessary for virtually anyone...)

 

[lufa6977]

Vueroid S1-4K seems to draw only somewhere around 1mA in ELPM parking mode, which can be considered practically as pure background noise compared to a normal parasitic draw of a modern car (~ 50 mA, if I understand correctly). So the protection that ELPM offers to a parked car could be said to be practically "free" in this regard.

On the other hand, the ELPM has one drawback compared to buffered parking modes, namely that should something evil happen to my car, its probative value (at least under some jurisdictions) is clearly less than that of a buffered parking mode which records the event itself, leaving less room to "lawyer speculation" that we often see in courts.

So this brought up a question in my mind, could it be possible to introduce a "~VIOFO-style" hybrid parking mode in Vueroid, too.

I think that in Vueroid it would provide even more added value to the parking scheme, due to Vueroid's minimal power consumption in ELPM.

In the hybrid parking mode, the parking mode could start just like now, i.e. either buffered or time lapse , and after either the timer or cut-off voltage limit is reached (whichever first), the cam would simply not power off but instead switch to ELPM mode.

(And if one would wanted to be a perfectionist, the cut-off voltage selection could offer two selections for this hybrid mode; one voltage for switching over to ELPM and another voltage to completely power off the camera. Although I'm not sure if that would be needed at all. I guess that it would not be necessary for virtually anyone...)

 

[ANI]

Thanks for the videos, @lufa6977. As a matter of fact I already had watched them, and I watched them again now. However they still do not seem to provide what I was asking for.

As the "Parking Mode Guide" video tells, the Discharge Cut-Off Voltage and Discharge Cut-Off Time will both turn off the dash camera when either of the limits is reached.

My suggestion was that these two switches would instead switch the camera from the "standard" Impact & Motion (or Impact + Timelapse) parking mode to the corresponding ELPM parking mode - which could continue protecting the vehicle still for a very long time due to the exceptionally small 1mA current draw (provided that these limits are set reasonably, e.g. to 3 hours and +12.1V or +12.3 V in a traditional petrol engine car).

I hope that Vueroid can consider this suggestion for a new "hybrid parking mode" that this otherwise excellent camera would seem to be lacking - if I just understood the relevant videos correctly... 🙂👍

 

[lufa6977]

Thanks for the videos, @lufa6977. As a matter of fact I already had watched them, and I watched them again now. However they still do not seem to provide what I was asking for.

As the "Parking Mode Guide" video tells, the Discharge Cut-Off Voltage and Discharge Cut-Off Time will both turn off the dash camera when either of the limits is reached.

My suggestion was that these two switches would instead switch the camera from the "standard" Impact & Motion (or Impact + Timelapse) parking mode to the corresponding ELPM parking mode - which could continue protecting the vehicle still for a very long time due to the exceptionally small 1mA current draw (provided that these limits are set reasonably, e.g. to 3 hours and +12.1V or +12.3 V in a traditional petrol engine car).

I hope that Vueroid can consider this suggestion for a new "hybrid parking mode" that this otherwise excellent camera would seem to be lacking - if I just understood the relevant videos correctly... 🙂👍

I will ask Vueroid about your suggestion.

As I recall, the discharge cut-off time and voltage are to preserve the battery, so it is more or less etched in stone that the dashcam turns off completely. This is to maintain the battery voltage at the user's discretion. As I see it, the user can choose the time frame or voltage at which their dashcam is automatically disabled. The keyword here is 'user selectable'. If, at that voltage or time frame, the camera enters low-power mode as you suggest, the user's selection is not honored, and the user loses an option that gives them authority over their dashcam and battery.

As users, we can always come up with a parking scheme. If there are nine parking schemes, then someone will for sure want a 10th. 🙂 Ultimately, though, the user must have a time and voltage value they can select, and once exceeded, it will cause the dashcam to disable itself.

 

[VUEROiD]

Thanks for the videos, @lufa6977. As a matter of fact I already had watched them, and I watched them again now. However they still do not seem to provide what I was asking for.

As the "Parking Mode Guide" video tells, the Discharge Cut-Off Voltage and Discharge Cut-Off Time will both turn off the dash camera when either of the limits is reached.

My suggestion was that these two switches would instead switch the camera from the "standard" Impact & Motion (or Impact + Timelapse) parking mode to the corresponding ELPM parking mode - which could continue protecting the vehicle still for a very long time due to the exceptionally small 1mA current draw (provided that these limits are set reasonably, e.g. to 3 hours and +12.1V or +12.3 V in a traditional petrol engine car).

I hope that Vueroid can consider this suggestion for a new "hybrid parking mode" that this otherwise excellent camera would seem to be lacking - if I just understood the relevant videos correctly... 🙂👍

As @lufa6977 mentioned, we are exploring various approaches and considering more rational parking mode scenarios.
At present, the camera enters ELPM after the Discharge Cut-Off Time is reached. Accordingly, we are reviewing ways to provide more flexible time settings. For example, if options such as 30 minutes, 1 hour, or 2 hours are offered, it would be possible to configure a structure similar to a hybrid parking mode without significant difficulty.
Currently, once the Discharge Cut-Off Voltage is reached, the camera is designed to power off completely. However, we are also reviewing a scenario in which the camera would instead enter ELPM at that point.
As you pointed out, since ELPM’s power consumption is extremely close to zero, even after reaching the configured voltage cut-off level, it would take a considerable amount of time before an actual battery discharge occurs. From that perspective, maintaining a continuous “just-in-case” protection scenario is not necessarily unreasonable.
That said, as @lufa6977 emphasized, preventing battery discharge is the most critical concern. Therefore, maintaining the fundamental principle of battery protection remains our top priority.