70mai's Privacy Policy

[Chuck McCoy]

We have indeed received many complaints regarding login issues, and we are trying to find a solution. Therefore, we support login via third-party accounts such as Apple Accounts for the North American app.

OMG, that’s even worse.
That’s not even one step forward, one step back.
That’s one step back, one step to the side.
What’s next, Allemande Left & Do-Si-Do?

No information given to company A should be shared with company B.
Of course, there really is no such thing as digital privacy, and we have data breaches on a regular basis, but this is completely unnecessary.

“Bad food, medicine ineffective. Good food, medicine not needed”
Kong Qiu 551BC - 479BC

Your email, log-in, and password requirements are POISON.
Your third-party solution is the CURE.
Don’t give us poison in the first place.
-Chuck

 

[lufa6977]

Hi Oliver, I am writing from the perspective that I have had my ID stolen 4 times now. Presently going through the expense of fixing that issue.

So, your issues with distributors and vendors selling your products in a manner that is not contractually valid should not affect your customers. Those are problems for you to resolve with those distributors and vendors.

Here is a link for your App on Google Play: 70Mai Data Safety
When readers click 'See Details' in the Data Safety section, they will learn a lot, some of which will not please them. Especially if they do the same reading for the Viofo and Vueroid links below. The user should also look at the links provided by Vortex Radar in his first post.

This is Viofo: Viofo Data Safety
Viofo has done a great job at not gathering user data.

This is Vueroid: Vueroid Data Safety
Of the three, Vueroid has done the best at not gathering user data.

Using your app should not require a user to do anything beyond downloading and using it. 70Mai does not need to track a user's social media, internet associations, or anything...at all, much less hand that data over to a third party. Users should expect to need an account if they choose to register the product. If they choose not to register, that is on them, but it does not mean they should give up privacy by virtue of using the device or the app. If your distributors are screwing 70Mai by undercutting other wholesalers and vendors, that is an issue for 70Mai to fix.

 

[Vortex Radar]

Hey Oliver, thanks for taking the time to respond. Glad to see that you're using AWS. Is there any info stored on servers in China? 70mai is a Chinese company subject to Chinese law. How do you handle potential government data requests under China's National Intelligence Law?

You say you don't actually link location to user identities in practice. Is there any way for users to verify that? Why not anonymize that information and say so explicitly in the policy? I don't understand why using BLE would prevent you from anonymizing people's location data.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

How do you handle potential government data requests under China's National Intelligence Law?

Remember the Huawei & ZTE ban from 2018?
What if dash cams are next?

 

[Oliver_70mai]

Here is a link for your App on Google Play: 70Mai Data Safety
When readers click 'See Details' in the Data Safety section, they will learn a lot, some of which will not please them. Especially if they do the same reading for the Viofo and Vueroid links below. The user should also look at the links provided by Vortex Radar in his first post.

This is Viofo: Viofo Data Safety
Viofo has done a great job at not gathering user data.

This is Vueroid: Vueroid Data Safety
Of the three, Vueroid has done the best at not gathering user data.

Using your app should not require a user to do anything beyond downloading and using it. 70Mai does not need to track a user's social media, internet associations, or anything...at all, much less hand that data over to a third party. Users should expect to need an account if they choose to register the product. If they choose not to register, that is on them, but it does not mean they should give up privacy by virtue of using the device or the app. If your distributors are screwing 70Mai by undercutting other wholesalers and vendors, that is an issue for 70Mai to fix.

Hi, thanks for your questions. As I said before: Starting with Android 6.0 (API 23), location permission must be enabled to scan for or discover Bluetooth devices (especially BLE, i.e., Bluetooth Low Energy). iOS 13 and above also require location permission for BLE scanning.

So it is absurd and irresponsible for the app page to state that location information is not required, whether due to a lack of attention to this aspect or intentional. Of course, our staff weren't entirely responsible in this regard; they selected every possible option, and we didn't really do it. This data isn't reviewed by the store; developers can choose it arbitrarily.

 

[Oliver_70mai]

Hey Oliver, thanks for taking the time to respond. Glad to see that you're using AWS. Is there any info stored on servers in China? 70mai is a Chinese company subject to Chinese law. How do you handle potential government data requests under China's National Intelligence Law?

You say you don't actually link location to user identities in practice. Is there any way for users to verify that? Why not anonymize that information and say so explicitly in the policy? I don't understand why using BLE would prevent you from anonymizing people's location data.

AWS uses a **Region + Availability Zone (AZ)** architecture. If you are a US user, your data will be stored on servers in the US. Only Chinese users' data will be saved in China.

We do not collect users' identity information. Just like some apps irresponsibly declare in their app interfaces that they don't require any permissions, we irresponsibly labeled all permissions as "possible". I have already asked the colleague in charge of the app to revise the privacy statement. It was our oversight in our work on the app store that led to this misunderstanding, and we sincerely apologize.

 

[Vortex Radar]

AWS uses a **Region + Availability Zone (AZ)** architecture. If you are a US user, your data will be stored on servers in the US. Only Chinese users' data will be saved in China.

We do not collect users' identity information. Just like some apps irresponsibly declare in their app interfaces that they don't require any permissions, we irresponsibly labeled all permissions as "possible". I have already asked the colleague in charge of the app to revise the privacy statement. It was our oversight in our work on the app store that led to this misunderstanding, and we sincerely apologize.

Ah okay great! I completely understand that labeling something as possible is very different from actually doing it in practice, and I appreciate you and your team helping to clarify what you're doing. Keeping people's privacy protected and their data anonymized is important. Just to doublecheck, what info does your app tie to people's identities and what info are you keeping anonymous?

 

[Vortex Radar]

One more thing I want to make sure I address: as a Chinese company, is 70mai subject to China's National Intelligence Law? If a government request for user data were made, would 70mai be legally able to refuse, or to notify users that a request had occurred? Does storing data on AWS' US servers prevent the Chinese government from having access to user data?

 

[jsmith]

Without sounding contrite, just about every APP wants access to your Phone's Location / Permissions to operate. Most products are made in China today and likely spy on their users to some degree by collecting information. Just assume anything you do online can be monitored by your ISP. Your IP is attached to any and all internet activity. Get a VPN. Encrypt your computer. Realize that your smartphone isn't secure and apps are likely tracking your location and activity. Data breaches are a semi regular occurrence.

Welcome to 2026. Privacy is long null and void.

 

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[lufa6977]

Hi, thanks for your questions. As I said before: Starting with Android 6.0 (API 23), location permission must be enabled to scan for or discover Bluetooth devices (especially BLE, i.e., Bluetooth Low Energy). iOS 13 and above also require location permission for BLE scanning.

So it is absurd and irresponsible for the app page to state that location information is not required, whether due to a lack of attention to this aspect or intentional. Of course, our staff weren't entirely responsible in this regard; they selected every possible option, and we didn't really do it. This data isn't reviewed by the store; developers can choose it arbitrarily.

Hi Oliver, I appreciate the response. Here is the section in your Privacy Policy that is concerning:

70Mai Privacy Policy

4.Disclosure of Your Personal Data
We may disclose your personal data with other third-party data controllers with your consent (where necessary). The types of third parties your personal data may be disclosed to include: our resellers and other sales and advertising partners, retailers, advertisers, ad agencies, advertising networks and platforms, information service providers, fraud monitoring and prevention providers, and publishers. In some cases, in order to show you more relevant ads, we disclose with social media platforms and other advertising partners, information about actions you take on our websites and apps, such as which pages you visit and which ads you saw.

Regardless of what may be written on the App page at Apple or Google, the above item is concerning.

Other than legal requirements issued by a jurisdiction, I don't agree that any dashcam company should provide any of the above information to these third parties. The OP is about privacy issues. The thread did get a bit distracted into 70Mai's requirement for email/passwords to use the 70Mai App and dashcam. The two topics do converge a bit as the 70Mai requirement for this information simply forces the user of your product to provide more information to a party, which may or may not protect that information.

 

[jsmith]

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Please explain how this isn't true? UK has telescopic cameras meant to monitor drivers. You have speed and distraction cameras all over your country. Apps all have a Terms of Service basically saying we mine and sell your data. China is notoriously known for mining user data. And ISPS can tie your IP to traffic very easily. An expectation to privacy doesn't exist in the digital age.

We might not like these terms, but pretty much every app will have the same ones.

 

[Oliver_70mai]

Hi Oliver, I appreciate the response. Here is the section in your Privacy Policy that is concerning:

70Mai Privacy Policy



Regardless of what may be written on the App page at Apple or Google, the above item is concerning.

Other than legal requirements issued by a jurisdiction, I don't agree that any dashcam company should provide any of the above information to these third parties. The OP is about privacy issues. The thread did get a bit distracted into 70Mai's requirement for email/passwords to use the 70Mai App and dashcam. The two topics do converge a bit as the 70Mai requirement for this information simply forces the user of your product to provide more information to a party, which may or may not protect that information.

This privacy policy (“Policy”) is intended to provide visitors and users (collectively “you”) of the website www.70mai.com
This privacy policy is the one for our official website, not the privacy policy of our app🙏🙏🙏🙏

 

[Oliver_70mai]

One more thing I want to make sure I address: as a Chinese company, is 70mai subject to China's National Intelligence Law? If a government request for user data were made, would 70mai be legally able to refuse, or to notify users that a request had occurred? Does storing data on AWS' US servers prevent the Chinese government from having access to user data?

Just as we require all of Apple's data in China to be stored on servers in China, US also requires all of TikTok's data in the US to be stored on US servers. I think they have the right or means to access this data if necessary. Of course, neither of them has the right or means to access data stored in other countries unless provided by the other party.

 

[lufa6977]

This privacy policy (“Policy”) is intended to provide visitors and users (collectively “you”) of the website www.70mai.com
This privacy policy is the one for our official website, not the privacy policy of our app🙏🙏🙏🙏

Thank you, Oliver. It is good to know that 70Mai is separating the privacy policies for certain. I think that most folks would prefer 70Mai to avoid any affiliation with third parties, to the best of its ability.