Blackvue DR650GW questions

[dhavie]

I agree with you in some points - but the Parking Mode feature is not complete rubbish.

Take a look if it is rubbish. If yes, he will not able to know who bang my car.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153653022653948

The Motion Sensor indeed is very sensitive.

 

[vbx]

Thinkware is a nice option. I thought about upgrading to it but it's not worth it at this time. Will wait for the next model. At the moment, Thinkware doesn't show MPH while driving.

But Thinkware has tons of features. Hopefully Pittasoft will catch up?

If Pittasoft can include all these features and more in the next cam AND still let us use the same wires and mounts from our current cam, that would be awesome.

Looking for higher RES rear cam, Wider angles like the 550GW, and all those nice features the Thinkware has. Camera light warning, laser warning, driving to close to a car warning, car from behind driving too close warning, etc etc.

 

[samsara]

A lot of customers use the Parking Mode as an option to give surveillance when they are parked at a shopping centre. So if you install a hard-wire kit and then set it for cut-off at 2 hrs you will have recording when you go to the shops. They can then chose to flick a switch and disable Parking Mode when they go home, we use the DR650-2CH and find the Parking Mode stops the camera from savings files when the garage door is closed.

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Politely, what you are describing is a feature of the hardwire kit i.e. the facility to continue recording for a pre-set time following discontinuation of the ignition supply. It is not a feature of the blackvue per se. Since BV's parking mode records continually (unless completely isolated from any motion whatsoever), then it may as well be in normal driving mode and the hardwire kit used to deliver the actual 'parking solution', just as you describe.

And yes I could go out and spend £80 on a quality 128 sd card, but having just spent £280 on a BV, £210 on a cellink and £40 on a 64 sd card, you'll forgive me for not paying out yet more for a workaround to a BV advertised feature that simply doesn't work.

I find it hilarious that BV advertise the feature as a 'buffered' car parking mode i.e records x seconds of footage that occurred before the motion was detected. Of course it bloody does, since it never stops recording in parking mode!!

As for contacting pittasoft, given the number of people on various forums that have been complaining about the issue for the last year or more, I'm quite sure they are aware. I suspect it's an issue that can't be solved through a firmware update.

 

[Andy Moore]

Samsara - I couldn't agree with you more !! Well said

 

[BlackVue Australia]

Politely, what you are describing is a feature of the hardwire kit i.e. the facility to continue recording for a pre-set time following discontinuation of the ignition supply. It is not a feature of the blackvue per se. Since BV's parking mode records continually (unless completely isolated from any motion whatsoever), then it may as well be in normal driving mode and the hardwire kit used to deliver the actual 'parking solution', just as you describe.

And yes I could go out and spend £80 on a quality 128 sd card, but having just spent £280 on a BV, £210 on a cellink and £40 on a 64 sd card, you'll forgive me for not paying out yet more for a workaround to a BV advertised feature that simply doesn't work.

I find it hilarious that BV advertise the feature as a 'buffered' car parking mode i.e records x seconds of footage that occurred before the motion was detected. Of course it bloody does, since it never stops recording in parking mode!!

As for contacting pittasoft, given the number of people on various forums that have been complaining about the issue for the last year or more, I'm quite sure they are aware. I suspect it's an issue that can't be solved through a firmware update.

'Parking Mode' is a feature offered by all dash cams, and majority of the time it requires a power supply when the car is off. Or you can buy a dash cam with a small battery that will give 10mins-1hr of Parking Mode recording.

Parking Mode is not the exact same as Normal Recording as we described in our last post, the camera does not save files if there is no movement. Yes it is sensitive but for some customers they prefer this and for others they don't - no one is the same and everyone has different opinions.

We have hundreds of customers that are very happy with the Parking Mode and using it to provide brief surveillance for when people walk passed the car. But we also hear your concerns and understand where you're coming from.

We are not asking you to go and buy another sd card, but you're saying how you will lose all the recording time and we are just giving you the options available. How many hours is enough for you?

If you don't like what Parking Mode has to offer speak to your local supplier about other brands they offer and what their Parking Mode does and it might suit your needs better.

Please remember that we have the best interests of the forum members in mind and the reason we signed up is to try and help with issues, but the reason we ask people to contact Pittasoft is because Pittasoft may not scourer this forum and people write complains here in the threads, we are not sure what they are expecting from these as Pittasoft may not hear it at all. So we ask people to contact their suppliers or Pittasoft directly.

It sounds like if they released an update to severely reduce the sensitivity so it only records if someone is 2 metres from the lens this would help with your problem. Question is, are there thousands of people with the same issue?

 

[BlackVue Australia]

Take a look if it is rubbish. If yes, he will not able to know who bang my car.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153653022653948

The Motion Sensor indeed is very sensitive.

Sorry we cannot view any video here

 

[samsara]

'Parking Mode' is a feature offered by all dash cams, and majority of the time it requires a power supply when the car is off. Or you can buy a dash cam with a small battery that will give 10mins-1hr of Parking Mode recording.

Parking Mode is not the exact same as Normal Recording as we described in our last post, the camera does not save files if there is no movement. Yes it is sensitive but for some customers they prefer this and for others they don't - no one is the same and everyone has different opinions.

We have hundreds of customers that are very happy with the Parking Mode and using it to provide brief surveillance for when people walk passed the car. But we also hear your concerns and understand where you're coming from.

We are not asking you to go and buy another sd card, but you're saying how you will lose all the recording time and we are just giving you the options available. How many hours is enough for you?

If you don't like what Parking Mode has to offer speak to your local supplier about other brands they offer and what their Parking Mode does and it might suit your needs better.

Please remember that we have the best interests of the forum members in mind and the reason we signed up is to try and help with issues, but the reason we ask people to contact Pittasoft is because Pittasoft may not scourer this forum and people write complains here in the threads, we are not sure what they are expecting from these as Pittasoft may not hear it at all. So we ask people to contact their suppliers or Pittasoft directly.

It sounds like if they released an update to severely reduce the sensitivity so it only records if someone is 2 metres from the lens this would help with your problem. Question is, are there thousands of people with the same issue?

I appreciate your polite reply and that you are only trying to help. I'm sure that those of your customers not requiring an extended car parking solution are satisfied with the blackvue.

It remains the case, however, that for those seeking an extended car parking solution the motion insensitivity of the blackvue is an issue. A quick trawl of the net has brought back the following threads in which the issue is referred to, directly or indirectly.

https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/blackvue-500gw-hd-event-vs-normal-vs-park-mode-recording-question.5901/

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic84094.html

http://www.fiestastoc.com/forums/topic/152738-dash-cam/page-2

http://car-dvr.info/forum/index.php?topic=591.0;wap2

http://car-dvr.info/forum/index.php?topic=709.0;wap2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2YMANXLE4DKB6/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00MC4XL2G

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam/comments/30vdya/blackvue_dr650gw_marking_every_moving_video_as_an/

http://car-dvr.info/forum/index.php?topic=80.10;wap2

http://my.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/psa-mddcva-dashcam-install

http://www.ohgizmo.com/2013/05/16/ohgizmo-review-the-dr500gw-hd-dashboard-camera/

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46712

http://www.jaginfo.org/archive/index.php/t-31161.html

I did actually write to Pittasoft on the issue but of course did not receive a reply, and I am not in fact expecting or seeking a resolution to the issue: my reason for posting was simply to advise the OP that blackvue might not be suited to his needs.

Kindly,

Samsara

 

[Ralph2]

Pittasoft would do well with customer relations if they did monitor and give a presence on this forum. It "seems" that their attitude is a "take it or leave it" position, not a good business model moving forward and I am sure their sales are suffering already.

 

[jokiin]

they have had reps here previously but they don't seem to stick around, the only ones that make an effort and answer some questions and support the product are from @BlackVue Australia

 

[Ralph2]

they have had reps here previously but they don't seem to stick around, the only ones that make an effort and answer some questions and support the product are from @BlackVue Australia

Yes I am aware of his presence and value his comments

 

[BlackVue Australia]

I appreciate your polite reply and that you are only trying to help. I'm sure that those of your customers not requiring an extended car parking solution are satisfied with the blackvue.

It remains the case, however, that for those seeking an extended car parking solution the motion insensitivity of the blackvue is an issue. A quick trawl of the net has brought back the following threads in which the issue is referred to, directly or indirectly.

https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/blackvue-500gw-hd-event-vs-normal-vs-park-mode-recording-question.5901/

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic84094.html

http://www.fiestastoc.com/forums/topic/152738-dash-cam/page-2

http://car-dvr.info/forum/index.php?topic=591.0;wap2

http://car-dvr.info/forum/index.php?topic=709.0;wap2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2YMANXLE4DKB6/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00MC4XL2G

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam/comments/30vdya/blackvue_dr650gw_marking_every_moving_video_as_an/

http://car-dvr.info/forum/index.php?topic=80.10;wap2

http://my.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/psa-mddcva-dashcam-install

http://www.ohgizmo.com/2013/05/16/ohgizmo-review-the-dr500gw-hd-dashboard-camera/

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46712

http://www.jaginfo.org/archive/index.php/t-31161.html

I did actually write to Pittasoft on the issue but of course did not receive a reply, and I am not in fact expecting or seeking a resolution to the issue: my reason for posting was simply to advise the OP that blackvue might not be suited to his needs.

Kindly,

Samsara

I understand all of the concerns and we do send this feedback to Pittasoft, as we are only 1 distributor we try to ask members to ask their distributors to raise a voice as well. Thanks for understanding.

Please try turning the sensitivity for Parking Mode for motion to the very left on the minimum setting and it will help reduce the amount of recording in some cases.

 

[ssgm1x]

Ok, so a quick google supplies the answer - events are tagged, not protected. So, bottom line, given the recording capacity limits (on most cams), is that is that the BV parking feature is indeed rubbish!

And as the Thinkware F750 triggers off ACC rather than G-sensor, that isn't the solution either, if you don't want a hardwire solution (I have a BMW). All I want is a discrete, decent image capturing dual cam with a working parking feature and which I can run off an independent battery when parked - not sure that there's one out there.

The KING of Parking Mode in Korea is "BLACK SYS " where they practically invented dashcams and Parking mode....

 

[vbx]

@jokiin - Do you have the figures for wattage drawn for motion sensing only vs motion-sensing + recording? I would have thought they'd be quite some difference.

And it's not simply about battery use, it's about the potential of having required recordings written over. If I were to park my car overnight, say from 17.30 hours to 08.00 hrs, then the only way I would be able to guarantee the capture of all parking instances would be to use normal quality on a 64GB card, bearing in mind that the BV isn't noted for the excellence of it vid.

Sorry, but the BV parking feature is junk.

@ Phil - As Ralph has said, changing the G-sensor won't have any effect on the motion sensitivity on the BV, even when the MS is on its very lowest setting.

Regards alternatives, the Thinkware F750 looks interesting - see Thinkware F750 sub forum/thread. I'm currently researching, with view to offloading my BV on eBay! Clearly, I need to research longer and harder than when I purchased the BV! There is some suggestion at present that the F750 parking mode only works with a hardwire solution - again, need to fully investigate.

But the BV doesn't record over an event that is triggered by G-shock. It will only overwrite useless motion video. Unless someone is drawing on your car or keying it, it shouldn't matter.