I want to replace my not so great Rexing Cam, but

Jackle

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After spending the last 2 days thinking I've found a good candidate, I find myriad user reports stating problems ranging from poor build quality to poor video quality.

All I care about is:
1) Front and Rear viewing cams
2) Rear cam can be applied to a vertical window (pickup truck)
3) Can accomodate a 1TB card (512 if this cam does not exist)
4) Can use 12V socket for power (My vehicle's sockets do not deactivate when I turn off the vehicle)
5) Is known to be reliable in Hot environments

It doesn't matter what the stated resolution is stated to be. I want a good clear picture with legible license plates and discernable faces, but I don't care if the label reads as 1080, 1440, 4k, etc. I also don't really care whether it has bells and whistles or not (I'll only rarely use them if it has them), I just want it to run day in and day out looping for as long as possible.
 
I apologize in advance if I have commited some error conduct; I am new here.
 
Hello Jackie, a few things. First off there aren't any cams that I know of that accommodate 1tb micro sd cards.Another thing is if your 12v socket does not turn off hardwiring would be very much necessary unless you can remember to insert and remove the usb every time. Though if you hardwire i think the viofo a129 plus would be a good candidate.
 
Hello Jackie, a few things. First off there aren't any cams that I know of that accommodate 1tb micro sd cards.Another thing is if your 12v socket does not turn off hardwiring would be very much necessary unless you can remember to insert and remove the usb every time. Though if you hardwire i think the viofo a129 plus would be a good candidate.

Thank you for responding. I didn't figure there were any cams that took a 1 TB card, but I thought I'd ask here to be sure. I am unsure of why I would need to remove the Cam from power if i am using one of my truck's sockets? As it stands, I allow my Rexing to run 24/7 and it has had no appreciable effect on my battery. In fact, its a 3 year battery with over 5 years of use even now.

The Viofo a129 Plus looks to be a viable option, Do you have any similar recommendations that can accept a 512GB card? (Especially since Viofo makes high endurance 512 cards)
 
Hello Jackie, a few things. First off there aren't any cams that I know of that accommodate 1tb micro sd cards.Another thing is if your 12v socket does not turn off hardwiring would be very much necessary unless you can remember to insert and remove the usb every time. Though if you hardwire i think the viofo a129 plus would be a good candidate.

Also, separately from our other conversation, do you know of any 4 channel cams that are any good?
 
Indeed 1 TB memory card are not officially supported, but i think some of the street guardian people experimented with that in some of their systems, so to clear that up ill tag in @Street Guardian USA

512 GB cards are barely seeing official support today.

4 channel are also extremely marginal in consumer dashcams at least, and if you expect those 4 channels to be front & rear and left & Right side, then you are all out of luck.
Now quite a few of us oldtimer addicts have whipped up full 360 degree coverage, but then it have either been with a 2 channel system for front & Rear, and then single cameras for the sides or in my case another 2 channel system.

It do still demand creativity, for example the Tesla car down the side cameras, well no one made something like that, or that is very very few have.

There is a old big thread on side cameras. https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threa...a-side-view-dashcam-for-your-car-doors.12675/

In general the challenge are mounting the cameras, now a few like me have a small fixed glass on the rear doors, so i mounted my side cameras there. before i got the dual system for side use i used single camera systems, one mounted off the headlined above the door ( not good due to curtain airbags ) the other i mounted off the back side of the B pillar, would probably also get hit by a curtain airbag deploying but at least it was not almost mounted to the curtain airbag.

All of this, well i bit problematic if you have young kids in the car, CUZ the cameras and wire will be right there for them to meddle with.
The K2S system i ended up using as side cameras was nice CUZ it have extremely small camera units, so even if they was at the top of the fixed glass i doubt they would get hit / torn off by a deploying curtain airbag.
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Footage from my 2 X 2 channel setup.
As it is 2 different systems the footage are not native in sync as they have different boot speeds, but in post you can sync it better than i bothered to do with my little demo clip.


Now Vantrue are about to launch a 4 channel system, but it is with 2 cabin cameras from the front and from the back, so more geared towards the ride share driver.
But i dont think you are a rural Uber with your truck :)
 
Indeed 1 TB memory card are not officially supported, but i think some of the street guardian people experimented with that in some of their systems, so to clear that up ill tag in @Street Guardian USA

512 GB cards are barely seeing official support today.

4 channel are also extremely marginal in consumer dashcams at least, and if you expect those 4 channels to be front & rear and left & Right side, then you are all out of luck.
Now quite a few of us oldtimer addicts have whipped up full 360 degree coverage, but then it have either been with a 2 channel system for front & Rear, and then single cameras for the sides or in my case another 2 channel system.

It do still demand creativity, for example the Tesla car down the side cameras, well no one made something like that, or that is very very few have.

There is a old big thread on side cameras. https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threa...a-side-view-dashcam-for-your-car-doors.12675/

In general the challenge are mounting the cameras, now a few like me have a small fixed glass on the rear doors, so i mounted my side cameras there. before i got the dual system for side use i used single camera systems, one mounted off the headlined above the door ( not good due to curtain airbags ) the other i mounted off the back side of the B pillar, would probably also get hit by a curtain airbag deploying but at least it was not almost mounted to the curtain airbag.

All of this, well i bit problematic if you have young kids in the car, CUZ the cameras and wire will be right there for them to meddle with.
The K2S system i ended up using as side cameras was nice CUZ it have extremely small camera units, so even if they was at the top of the fixed glass i doubt they would get hit / torn off by a deploying curtain airbag.

Footage from my 2 X 2 channel setup.
As it is 2 different systems the footage are not native in sync as they have different boot speeds, but in post you can sync it better than i bothered to do with my little demo clip.

Now Vantrue are about to launch a 4 channel system, but it is with 2 cabin cameras from the front and from the back, so more geared towards the ride share driver.
But i dont think you are a rural Uber with your truck :)

Hey, Thanks a lot for that! I had actualy been considering just getting a cheap separate 2 cam setup to use as side cams; this has reinforced that idea a lot.

What do you think of my original question?
A setup with:
Front and Rear viewing cams
Rear cam can be applied to a vertical window (pickup truck)
Can accomodate a 1TB card (512 if this cam does not exist)
Can use 12V socket for power (My vehicle's sockets do not deactivate when I turn off the vehicle)
Is known to be reliable in Hot environments

& The other suggestion of the Viofo a129 Plus? It only suppports a 256 card, but upon looking into the Viofo product line & the thread here about the A139 PRO...

It has those snappy starvis 2 sensors & supports a 512 card (which Viofo makes a high endurance 512GB). Is that my best shot at getting the kind of clarity I mentioned? (Even if I am paying for bells and whistles I won't use too much)
 
My little Suzuki 5 door hatchback have a vertical glass on the hatch, i have never had problems with rear cameras and the ability to aim them strait out the back.
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As the wipre reach the very top i have preferred to mount cameras off the clean metal frame of the rear hatch ( rock bottom model so no trim plastic on the rear hatch, or at least not around the window.
This was a little problem CUZ i wanted to film above the top heater line, so for may years i have mounted cameras to a 12 MM thick neodymium magnet also acting as a spacer, only when i have had several more systems to test have i been forced to mount on the rear glass and so with those cameras film in between the 2 and 3 from the top heater lines.

That worked too, just stealth are totally out the window, but it is anyway when you are a dashcam tester and have 4-5 systems in the car with upwards of 10 individual cameras some times.

Now in the Trucks, the main problem with a camera on the rear window is that some times it is a split window that can slide to the side, so in that case if you use that, you have to compensate by mounting offset, which are generally not a big problem with the wide angle lenses dashcams use.
A + for that kind of install is you have coverage of what is in the bed of your truck.
A - for that kind of install is, your bed and the rear hatch will take up a lot of the footage, and the rear hatch, well a car will have to be a few car lengths behind you, for you to be able to see the plate in the footage ( assuming your state have front plates )

A few brands offer a waterproof rear camera you can put way out back, the - with doing that is it is right there in the elements, and you probably know all too well how much crud can accumulate on the back of a truck, and so also on the camera lens.

The user Dashmellow is our resident dashcam + truck specialist, thats what he drive, and he have side cameras too.

Now you dont really want to be recording regular full blown footage when parked, this generate the MAX heat in the camera, and then + the sun beating on your car and the camera will soon reach MAX temperature and do a safety shutdown.
That is why the dedicated parking guard modes have tricks like time lapse or recording in a lower bitrate as they both generate as little heat as possible
For instance i had a system i ran parking guard on ( 1080p resolution ) for the 3 minute segment size i like to use it coughed up 350 MB large files, but when i parked and the camera changed to low bitrate parking mode ( that always record + have sound ) well then the files was just 128 MB in size, and so room for much more footage on a memory card.

I was worried as low birate are a quality thing too, so i at once tested it parking curbside to a town road ( 60 KMH VS the default Danish town speed MAX of 50 KMH.
And it worked just fine for plate capture as there was light at the time.


Now your always on socket, for some cameras that will not be a problem as they have the low voltage cut off in the camera itself, and those also change to parking guard after a few minutes of 0 activity on the G-sensor in the camera.
So with one of those you can have parking guard and use your always on 12 V socket in the dash / console.

But most dashcams are 5 Volt cameras and will require a hard wire kit to be installed to be able to do parking guard, these will need two 12 V wires + ground, one 12 V that is always active, and then a 12 V that is ACC and this will then be the trigger that will tell the system to go to or from parking guard.

Main thing is to have a low voltage cut off, CUZ your car battery, well they are not made for deep discharge, so you be wise to keep it at 12.2 vilts at least ( normally the cut off options are 11.8 - 12.0 - 12.2 - and 12.4 volts )

I have no personal experience using 512 GB cards, i have a substantial collection of 256GB cards i use when testing systems, but i have not yet been able to pick up a 512 GB card, i am on a pension here and Denmark aint cheap for anything, even if they say we have free schools - healthcare and what not,,,,,, its not really free, you pay a substantial tax to enjoy those.
 
Thank you for all of that, I think I'll be able to make a decision based on what I've learned over the past couple of days.
 
These days, some say they are happy with what little a cabin / interior camera can see out the side windows, but for me that absolutely do not cut it.
Now my 360 setup, as you can see by the clip, at a distance there are a overlap but right up against the car, or the 7 - 8 feet i circle the car not so much, but i firmly feel it is fine as anything will be captured on the approach, and there should be no doubt who is to blame when paint are exchanged.

Personally i feel a single front camera are fine in pretty much all cases, CUZ that one camera will log all you do with your car, and if you are good / within the law, when whatever that happen off camera can not be your fault.
Granted it is nice to have stuff on video, but it is largely just addiction / overkill.
in the +10 years i have pulled footage of my cameras to share, well 98% of it have been from the front cameras.
Granted 6 - 7 years ago when i got rear ended i did not get that on video even if i had a rear camera then, CUZ the camera was on a long cheap USB wire, and so power starved it booted / recorded at random. But it was not needed the guy took blame just fine and my front camera had me yielding to a girl in a cross walk ( no light but here you must yeld if there is a crosswalk painted on the ground )
So i stopped nice and easy, so did the girl behind me, but the next guy in the land cruiser on his phone or something, well he did not stop.

Try and hit Dashmellow up, he is American too, and have always been driving his truck as he is a rural living half way up a mountain guy.
 
I won't be setting up the side cams right away, unfortunately I have to devote my funds in other directions right now :/

But, I'm good to go on a front/back cam.
 
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