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Is the moveable camera on the A139 Pro that much of a selling point? How would it compare to the non-movable Viofo camera’s?
Thank you, I hadn’t looked at all the images to see thatAll front Viofo cameras can be dismounted, if that is what you mean?
All front Viofo cameras have lens angle adjustment, if that is what you mean?
biggest issue is the magnets provided could end up too weak and the camera just fall off the base constantly. good strong magnets would cost quite a penny vs the simple slide on we have right now.I would LOVE Viofo to have a removable magnetic mount.
They would have to be strong magnets yes. But I would pay extra for that, if it meant that you could just take it on and off without wearing down the mount. In summer, you just take it off and put inside if you need to.biggest issue is the magnets provided could end up too weak and the camera just fall off the base constantly. good strong magnets would cost quite a penny vs the simple slide on we have right now.
For companies that are looking for a bigger margin, and the current state of the economic squeeze, there is clearly a good enough reason why Viofo will feel that changing the mount and base to cost more. Likely most of the cost is not going to come from the magnets but the changes in manufacturing and development of the new base and magnet placements to prevent interference with the wifi module and such. another point is having a strong tight connection to the dash or windshield would reduce small vibrations from causing the video quality to suffer. Plus if there is underpowered magnets introduced that will make the camera recieve bad reputation where the OG physical mount is tried and tested to perform functionally the same or better. From Viofo's perspective, there is not enough incentive to introduce a magnetic base.Strong rare earth neodymium magnets have been used with dash cams. You'll find many examples if you search the DIY sub-forum here on DCT and there have been a few commercial models.
They are really not that expensive and would only add a very modest amount to the cost of a dash cam, especially if purchased in bulk by the manufacturer.
While neodymium magnets can be made to work with a dash cam they are not that practical and that is why we don't usually see them in commercial productions cameras. While they won't "fall off', depending on the camera they can shift slightly with impact and on bumpy roads or gets knocked out of position. Most when people use them it is with small, light weight cameras. Manufacturers seen to prefer secure mounts that stay where they are placed.
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For companies that are looking for a bigger margin, and the current state of the economic squeeze, there is clearly a good enough reason why Viofo will feel that changing the mount and base to cost more. Likely most of the cost is not going to come from the magnets but the changes in manufacturing and development of the new base and magnet placements to prevent interference with the wifi module and such. another point is having a strong tight connection to the dash or windshield would reduce small vibrations from causing the video quality to suffer. Plus if there is underpowered magnets introduced that will make the camera recieve bad reputation where the OG physical mount is tried and tested to perform functionally the same or better. From Viofo's perspective, there is not enough incentive to introduce a magnetic base.
I don't want a magnetic base. I want a base that is tight and strongly adhered to my windshield to reduce the vibrations for greater camera quality.
From the videos I have seen vibrations are not an issue.
Thanks for the comments but maybe I need to elaborate a bit more.None of those camera designs will ever be as secure and stable as a wedge camera or other design mounted directly on the glass. Anything on a stalk is inherently prone to vibrations even without the magnet. Often such vibrations are on a frequency that can make them hard to notice but they can indeed subtly affect the sharpness of your videos.
Another factor is the type of conditions one drives in. For example, I live in a rural area on a bumpy dirt and gravel road on a mountain and even on paved roads there are times when shocks and vibrations can be an issue such as during snow and icy conditions we experience in winter. Even driving on typical urban and suburban roads can cause shocks and vibrations such a when you go over expansion joints on bridges, railroad tracks or potholes. It took me many years of using all kinds of different style dash camera mounts to conclude that you simply can't have a mount that is too secure. I did have some success using very powerful neodymium magnets with a Mobius camera which is tiny and very light weight but even then it was questionable and I eventually abandoned the idea. Most of today's cameras are larger and heavier, and some 4K cams have substantial heat sinks and this would make using a magnetic mount even more challenging. And it is not just vibrations. In a car accident where there is a significant impact a camera with a magnetic mount can separate from its mount.
In the Nextbase video you posted the camera appears quite loose after the guy mounts it and even the simple act of just running his finger over the camera causes it to shift and move around. Interestingly, the other videos you posted are 7 and 8 years old and those cameras are either not made anymore or never designed to be used with magnetic mounts in the first place. Amusingly, one of those videos was created by a DCT member who was in the habit of scouring the DIY sub-forum for other peoples ideas and projects that he could copy for the purpose of monetizing on YouTube. Designing and building something that was truly secure and stable was never really his goal.
Personally, I would avoid such mounts at all costs.
Of course, anyone who wants to use a magnetic camera mount should do as they please but I would advise against it in favor of something that is rock solid and secure in all conditions.
Ok, we shall see if my mount gets easier over time, as I am constantly going to need to un mount it.BTW, with the slide-on design like Viofo and other manufacturers use all of them seem to start out pretty stiff and they can indeed be a little difficult to mount and unmount but over time they break in and the procedure becomes much easier and smoother.
Just hope there is not to much wear and tear that it becomes loose or rattles etc..
No, Viofo did not come with foam pads, which is pretty bad. I mean a few cents to throw one in the package?I don't know if it is still the case but Viofo dash cams always came with several pieces of thin EVA foam that you apply to the back of the camera mount. The foam cushions the camera and prevents rattles. It eventually flattens out a bit and this is part of the breaking in process. You can buy EVA foam sheets on Amazon and elsewhere if you ever experience a loose or rattling dash cam and don't have any factory supplied ones.
No, Viofo did not come with foam pads, which is pretty bad. I mean a few cents to throw one in the package?