How do I record all day?

Dave3226

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We are moving from MA to MT and driving an epic 2500 miles. Looks like dash cams only record for maybe up to 2 hours. We will be way out of cell service range for hours at a time. I do not want to have to fuss with anything every few hours. What can I do?

I was thinking forget streaming video but have the camera snap still shots like every minute en route. Do dash cams do that? Would it work? What else (in hopefully non techie talk) do I need to know?

Thanks!
 
We'll need a bit more information: What dash cam? What size memory card? for starters.

If your camera can support it a 512GB memory card can give you close to 80 hours of recording which would be the easiest solution.
 
A 512GB memory card would be a good solution. Of course, you'll need a laptop and a good sized hard drive to transfer all the footage to at the end of each day so you can start out with a fresh, blank memory card the next day.

A spare memory card to two wouldn't be a bad idea either.
 
Clearly I’m a newbie here. All I’ve done so far is go to Best Buy and read reviews on line. I could not find answers to my qs so found you all! I’m loving the extra memory idea, especially if that’s the magic answer which it seems like it is. But:

(1) how come if this is so easy, the manufacturers don’t build em this way? I assume it’s because most users don’t need more than a few hours of recording time.

(2) how come not a single reviewer ever mentioned this as an option? Okay maybe that’s a rhetorical question… and why I turned to all of you experts.

(3) this sounds pricey! Are there dash cams that already come with a 512GB memory card? If not, what will that run me? And what exactly am I looking for?

We hit the road Friday the 25th so I don’t have much time to get this together.

Dave in MA (for now)
 
Clearly I’m a newbie here. All I’ve done so far is go to Best Buy and read reviews on line. I could not find answers to my qs so found you all! I’m loving the extra memory idea, especially if that’s the magic answer which it seems like it is. But:

(1) how come if this is so easy, the manufacturers don’t build em this way? I assume it’s because most users don’t need more than a few hours of recording time.

(2) how come not a single reviewer ever mentioned this as an option? Okay maybe that’s a rhetorical question… and why I turned to all of you experts.

(3) this sounds pricey! Are there dash cams that already come with a 512GB memory card? If not, what will that run me? And what exactly am I looking for?

We hit the road Friday the 25th so I don’t have much time to get this together.

Dave in MA (for now)
You really need to let us know what camera you have now. Not all cameras support larger memory cards but there's a possibility that what you have does.

As to price, upgrading to a larger card is not all the expensive, and cheaper than getting a new camera if yours already has that capability.
 
1) how come if this is so easy, the manufacturers don’t build em this way? I assume it’s because most users don’t need more than a few hours of recording time.

(2) how come not a single reviewer ever mentioned this as an option?

The primary purpose of a dash cam is to preserve evidence during a car accident or other road mishap and so they are generally set to record in short clips called "loops" ranging from 1 to 5 minutes. When your memory card becomes full, it will record over the first clips to make room for new ones. Dash cams can be set to record full time but they will stop recording when the memory card becomes full.

Dash cams were never really designed for recording a full cross country multi-day journey like you have in mind although occasionally a few people express an interest in doing this and some have tried it. In theory, it is doable but it is cumbersome.
Manufacturers don't build them this way because only a tiny fraction of users would want to use dash cams in this manner.

While you may well be able to do what you have in mind with a dash cam that can hold a 512 GB memory card (and some members have recently also been experimenting with newly available 1 TB microSD cards), you "might" be better off with a dedicated video camera mounted on your dashboard, such as a small camcorder, as these are specifically designed for lengthy recording sessions. You would still need to offload your video to a hard drive but a camcorder may be a more suitable device for this purpose.
 
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was thinking forget streaming video but have the camera snap still shots like every minute en route. Do dash cams do that?

BTW, yes, dash cams can do that. Many on the market feature a "time lapse" setting in the menu that can be set for different intervals ranging from seconds to minutes. The result would be a sped-up movie. No doubt you've seen footage of a flower bud opening or clouds moving rapidly across the sky. Your journey would look something like that. Doing this would allow you to fit a lot of recording time onto a memory card if the idea appeals to you.
 
This is all super helpful both the details and the background. Obviously I don’t have a dash cam now, I’m still doing all this research. We will see where I end up. Thanks all!
 
I think that ATM most dashcams still top out at 128GB memory card size, some do officially support 256GB and very few are tested and will support 512 GB
Now if you are driving across the states, and do so fast, meaning several drivers taking shifts, and still we are not talking cannonball run, then it will probably take more time than a single 512 GB card can provide.
So the best solution is to pull over now and then, which i assume you are going to do anyway, cuz i have tried to drive far ( +1000 km ) in one go and that is just not cool with no stops.
So you can use stops to offload footage to a larger means of storage like a laptop harddrive.

In regard to the concept itself, a dashcam do record video, but the people that make scenic drive videos, i am sure none of them use a dashcam for that as really aside for it being video it is something else.
A proper nice drive video, you do not have dashboard or A pillars in the frame, and you would record on a higher bitrate camera as you will want the best possible detail amount, and a dashcam record in a very moderate bitrate VS a proper video camera that have 4 X higher bitrate,,,,, and as a consequence of that also generate about 4X larger files.

A dashcam is a compromise camera, it use a lesser bitrate and so image quality in order to generate as small as possible files and put as much as possible video on a memory card.
So it is a compromise getting just enough detail to provide useful evidence in case of a alteration, and memory space.
A 1080p dashcam will generate about 350 MB files every 3 minute ( from each camera ) if you record sweet 4K using a good action camera you will probably see around 3000 MB for every 3 minutes you film.

Memory card life time are set in full write cycles, so while in theory you could make do with a 32 GB card and the few hours it hold, then as it is a smaller card it will also burn thru write cycles faster than a larger memory card, so for this reason a larger memory card is also preferred.
If the memory lasted forever, well then you could make do with just a 8GB card which would just store the last 30 minutes of driving, BUT ! then you do not have room for locked event files for instance as those the camera can not overwrite so creating those manual or automatic and you just end up with 0 memory for the regular driving video.

Most cameras today have a set amount of memory space reserved for events, and once that fill up they will also get overwritten with the oldest ones deleting first, yet another reason to have a big memory card as that will leave more room for such files, and providing you do not generate too many the retention time of these will be going back months with a large memory card.

My cameras can only generate event files if i press the event button, or if my car while parked get hit hard enough for the G- sensor to trigger.

You do not want to use G - sensor while driving, it will create too many false events from potholes and in other way poor road surfaces, and you do not want to use motion detect while parked, cuz every micro movement of something will set off one of those.

If you want to see how a scenic drive video should look like, look up the youtube channel called American roads. https://www.youtube.com/c/AmericanRoads

Today the bare minimum for a single channel in a dashcam should be 128GB so 256GB if it is a dual channel system, you can make do with 64GB for each camera, but then you should be financially challenged as opposed to it being a deliberate decision.
You can also make do with just a front camera, CUZ it record what you do with your vehicle, and if you do nothing wrong, then surely what happen off camera can not be your fault.
I have used dashcams for about a decade now, and +95 % of things i want to share have been captured on the front camera.
BUT ! you should still get a 2 channel system ( front & rear ) if that is possible.

Some cheap systems still, well they dont recommend more than 64GB memory cards, so you should not just go large, you need to make sure your hardware will play ball with that size.
 
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When / if you want to share your drive, or probably just parts of it, you probably want to speed up the footage in post production as no one is going to sit thry a 4 hour long video.
But take 1 hour footage and speed it up to last just 10 minutes, that work just fine i find with open areas.

This is a segment of a 9 hour long drive i made some years ago, driving the top part of Jutland in Denmark where i live, this was captured using a action camera so get a bit more image quality, it are still a bit wide angle though.

I have also up scaled the 1080p footage to 4K in post production as youtube do not seem to ruin 4K as much.


Town footage you might want to keep at 1:1 speed, here i am driving in my birth town of Aarhus, even if it is the #2 largest town in Denmark it is no problem to walk or bicycle around it, so have to go back and forth a lot to display it from a car, still ended up with 20 minute segments.
 
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If you're interested in a camera that snaps a still every so often to record the full journey, a gopro / action cam may be a good option. They have the time lapse mode and you can set it to take a still every couple seconds.
 
I have a Viofo A129 Pro Duo 4K which has 4k as the highest resolution for the front camera and 1080P for the rear camera.

With a 256GB card I get about 8 hours of recording with the highest resolution on both cameras.

If I was doing this, then I would buy three 256GB cards along with either a 4TB or 8TB external hard drive. I would swap the cards every six hours to give myself a buffer and copy the footage over to the external hard drive.
 
For sure you should always use the best possible bitrate / imager quality on a dashcam, but most have a option to choose lesser birates and / or even resolutions, you should also always use the native resolution and not a upscaled one, or a lesser one that might give the option for 60 FPS
 
...I don’t have a dash cam now, I’m still doing all this research....
:banghead: Doh!! I didn't read your post that way. Sorry about 'haranguing' you about what you currently had.
 
When transferring to offline storage, make sure you get a card reader that is "USB Super Speed" (often called USB 3.0) I have never seen a "USB High Speed" (often called USB 2.0) device exceed 20MB/s, and at 512GB, that would take 7 hours to copy.
Be aware that calling something "USB 3.0" does nothing to guarantee super speed operation, USB 3.2 supports ALL USB speed standards, and even a "USB low speed" (1.5 MB/s) device can claim to be "USB 3.0".

I recently bought this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/B091DQZB8V This is probably overkill for you since it is USB-C, and also supports UHS-II memory cards (extra signaling pins), but one of my cameras (not a dashcam) supports UHS-II memory cards, so it was one of my requirements.
 
Is a GoPro or fake GoPro an option? They have some very friendly timelapse capabilities.
 
Is a GoPro or fake GoPro an option? They have some very friendly timelapse capabilities.

@DrekiTech mentioned the idea of using a GoPro and I thought of mentioning them too but they run on batteries so I wasn't sure. Can GoPro cameras be left plugged in and charging full time while recording full time?
 
Yes they can. Just don't put it on super super quality or they overheat.
 
looks to me like a mobius set on lower frame rate would be perfect for the job....
19 hours on 32g card at 5fps and they are reliable....
 
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