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It looks like the car was going too fast around that corner.
There should be good evidence on the road for the coppers to study.
its things like that that would make cops investigations a hell of a lot easier if everyone had a dash cam, especially for fatals.they watched the video and the Merc driver was fined
lift-off oversteer only happens when you're already at the limits of cornering grip and is compounded by engine braking, though a sudden dip/rise in the road can certainly unload the suspension and get you to those limits in a very unexpected way. so can sand/debris on the road.If you look at the entry of the corner (for the merc) you can see that there is a rise in the road. That with speed if you lift off the throttle, turn in the rear gets very light and comes around.
I.e Lift off oversteer
lift-off oversteer only happens when you're already at the limits of cornering grip and is compounded by engine braking, though a sudden dip/rise in the road can certainly unload the suspension and get you to those limits in a very unexpected way. so can sand/debris on the road.
The whole dynamics of lift off oversteer being a transfer of weight to the front (hence reduce weight at the rear) which therefor reduces grip.
It does not require you to be at the limit, it can be induced and even used as an advantage in certain situations (generally not on the road for normal driving)
In all honesty, im not sure driver education is the key for all. For the average joe I think it is worth while but at the extreme end of this, spending money on a skid pan day for my mum for example would be a waste of time and money. Im sure she would enjoy it but she might get onto the freeway maybe once or twice a year and most of the speed limits in suburbia are slow and compounded by her slow driving in a car with abs, tcs, stability control etc.
On the other extreme end, a lot of the guys I grew up with or raced with are still idiots on the street. Granted picking their moment comes with age...The skills learnt over years of competition I can only guess dulls the sensors or any panic induced by speed, simply because its nothing new. From a psychological POV its quite interesting, if they were assessed from a real psychologist they would simply resist the urge or hide symptoms. If you ask their GF or wife, you will get the real story. Granted not all of them are like this, but most of them are.
Me personally, I am actually more dangerous on the road, I generally don't speed or be a menace to other road users, I simply find it so boring I (seemingly, as told by others) don't pay enough attention to the road. This is made worse if I have to drive a **** box (i.e the mrs car) and its now at the point where if we are going somewhere in her car, I refuse to drive. I am aware of my problem and trying to be active about it but in all honesty I think I have some sort of driving A.D.D.