Just want you to know the truth about what happining nowday in Israel

[David Bershadsky]

1)Evan in the time that UK held israel land the palstinans tried to make terror attack at jews
and lot of what you are talking abot was as a comment to these terror attack,please read some history book
The jews bought those houses from the palstinians and they took the money and didnt leave the houses
2)the plastinias also got money from many Organizations,Countries, and evan israel give to the Palestinian Authority a lot of money every year,
but they prefer to spend it on weapons and not for helping thier own pepole,
3)I want you to tell me how uk will act if other country will shot missels on thier houses for 10 years,
When little children go out for school and instead of hear a school bell the hear Alarm that tell them that they have 15 secondes to run for thier lives
because a missle is going to fall nearbye,So after a lot of years of boombing israel decsides to attack the terror Infrastructure in gaza strip
But the biggest problems is that they build those terror in Civilian homes, they shots these missels from Kinder gardens,hospitals,Mosques
They want thier civilians to get hurt and killed so they could run a tell how israel is killing Innocent pepole,
they evan get a lot of money from that process from Donations, and spend this money to build a terror

I think that you will feel it Coming soon, beacuse there are a lot of extremists Muslim in UK as you can see in this movie

 

[TheRookie]

Contrary to what you may think I have been to Middle East and that's including (but not limited to) Israel and Judea (that's what the rest of the world is calling West Bank).
In fact, I have close friends in Israel and UAE so I probably understand the situation there better than some.

No one took land from Palestinians. In fact, the word "Palestinian" prior to creation of Israel was applied mostly to Jews, at least in USSR.
When UN came with partition plan (again, contrary to what media would like you to believe it was strongly pushed by USSR rather than the US of A), Arab armies started to advance and urged Arab dwellers (I can't call them citizens as it was a transitional time, so no one, including Jews and Arabs could call himself "a citizen") to leave the fighting area. They complied with the request and left.
However, the Arab armies were defeated by what would become Israel and the rest is as they say is history.

As to occupation, all I can say is to repeat my previous sentence: if you start war and then lose, don't cry. Germans started the WWII then lost it and also lost quite significant chunk of their territory to Russians and Polish (the Poles also lost some territory to Russians but that' another matter). Arabs started the war and lost territory, why are they crying now like babies? Germans don't do that!
Besides, Gaza was taken from Egyptians (big mistake!) and they repeatedly refuse to take it back even when offered.

Answer one question: why Palestinians not wanted in any Arab country in the region? They were killed and expelled in thousands by Jordanians. They reduced highly prosperous Lebanon to complete mess it is now in. Egyptians built a fence and created no-mans land next to Gaza. Kuwait expelled every single one of them. UAE... etc. Is it because Palestinians are known troublemakers and Arab countries just don't want them?

Anyway, I think what will happen now is this:
1. The attacks will continue for a month or so.
2. The Western media (who are extremely pro-Palestinian, BTW) will stir the public opinion.
3. The Pallywood (I really admire their ingeniuty; they are excellent at propaganda, much better than Israelis) will create a series of "oh, these evil Jews eat our babies" videos, which will be then shown on all Western TV channels.
4. The usual suspect (read: population of Bradford, Oldham and Rotherham amongst others) will be out in the streets with their violent chants and banners "Islam is Religion of Peace and we will kill everyone who thinks otherwise!".
5. The UN will denounce violence and ask everyone to be a good boys and not to throw toys out of prams.
6. The EU will quickly send a several millions of Euros to Palestinians.
7. Arab countries will just shrug it off, make obligatory speeches on how bad the Israelis are and carry on as usual.
8. Everyone calms down and waits until Palestinians will run out of money. Again. Then go to step 1.

 

[Sunny]

Too bad, too sad. People get killed in war regardless of how (car, rocket, tank etc...) and who (jew, muslim, tourist, babies who don't know about religion etc...).
I'd add more but long post doesn't help that situation plus threads like this completely messes the vibe/mood of forum.
There are thousands of other forums to discuss these.
Over and out.

 

[DT MI]

...
2. The Western media (who are extremely pro-Palestinian, BTW) will stir the public opinion.....

You certainly have not read, watched or listened to the media where I live. It is so obviously pro-Israeli there is no way to hide it. Almost like they are a part of the Israeli government itself.

 

[petepete]

why does the lesson go unlearned ???

well before I reached adulthood I learned if I stole something and p*ssed people off never mind oppress and bully them, there would be repercussions as a consequence of my actions..

 

[erkme73]

Red mist, fear alcohol and drug abuse can lead to mayhem in the UK and people get hurt on a daily basis..

but if people had the defensive power of a handgun our gun deaths would proportionally match the USA...

And we don't get the mass killing because people don't have access to an arsenal of guns making its defensive power completely unnecessary and not wanted by the public or the police...

Funny thing is it works well, and the police arrest who they want without brutality or shooting s and the headlines and outrage so everyday and commonplace elsewhere..

Unfortunately, for the US, that genie won't go back in the bottle. If there was a way to remove ALL guns from the US, I would not be opposed to gun control. But with the reality of over 300 million guns already here and in circulation, it would be delusional to think we could get rid of them all. And therein lies the problem. So long as there is a ready existing supply of guns for the criminals, any gun bans would simply disarm the legal, law-abiding gun owners.

Gun bans don't make criminals become law-abiding. They do, however, make law-abiding gun owners criminals.

The homicides-per-100k rates for the strictest gun-controlled US cities (Washington, DC, Detroit, Chicago, etc) are magnitudes higher (in the 50 per 100k range), than cities with the highest number of armed residents (i.e. 0.4 per 100k for Plano, TX, where nearly every home has a gun).

In a perfect world, guns wouldn't exist. But since they do, I prefer to be my own 'protector'.

Here's a neat video on how the US rates in terms of guns per 100 people, and corresponding homicide rates with global, state, and city comparisons. Very eye-opening.

 

[mollydog]

this here is just a discussion I know fully well anything you say will not change my mine like I know fully well anything I have to say will not change your mind

but when someone comes on here and posts

“Just want you to know the truth about what happening nowadays in Israel”

its one thing buying a house and living in a country and saying we only want to live in peace with the locals, and another thing on that bases to say we want our own country as we bought the houses and land. if that was the case we will sone find there are people in England (not Scotland or Wales) demanding their own country, as they too have bought houses and land all legal, so why can’t they form another country?

the west, and by that I mean Europe and north America with maybe Australia have gone to war with Serbia as the people of the former Yugoslavia deserved the right of self determination, so why do we support a regime that promotes a form of apartheid, was formed by the king of land with out the consent of the people living their, like the Europeans did with the native American

you say no one in the middle east want the Palestinians, I’ve heard there are around 4M Palestinians refugees in camps in neighbouring countries.

you only have to see what our generous government is doing about the Syrian refugees to see they aren’t much different than us,

you say what would Briton do if a we were bombed for 10 years, you have go that wrong way round, what you should have said was what would the English do if part of the country was given to another people would then made that land a country for them not you

I also think you have the facts slightly wrong when you say the western media is pro Palestinian, if anything its the other way round

we, thats our prim minister and the Americans play lip service to peace

what few people don’t know is that while the Israilie’s were decimating gaza out of all proportion with the full knowledge of the the deaths that it would cause, our prim minister and the American president were on TV saying there has to be a peaceful solution to this conflict by dialog and regret any lose of life, while all the time the killings were going on, the Americans were suppling the Israelis with the armaments to carry out the bombings and they passed through Aberdeen airport, to get to Israel, and our leaders were telling the world we want peace

Like I said, I’m not going to, or even try to change your mined

question,

did/were the people living in Palestine asked if they wanted to give up their land to a mother people

did the Israelis use terror tactics I i.e. bomb civilian homes to get them out

is buying homes or land in a country give you the right to ask to create a country respective on the inhabitance

yes Gaza like the west bank and the golan heights were never part of is rail and are/were occupied lands, l

like the west bank being Jordanian land given to the Palestinians (buy Jordan) so was Gaza from Egypt

can you ever imaging Israel ever giving back the west bank? no way on earth while they have 100% American backing on any and everything they do, thats why they are building Israeli homes on there,

Must be a wonderful life living on handouts by the same people occupying your land, same as the French when the Germans occupied France, only the French terrorists of WW2 were called the resistance


Like I said, one thing saying “I want to live in peace with the people of Palestini” and another when you take the land an form another country

ask yourself where were these same hollywood super stars, promoting peace in Israel and condemning the hundreds of hamas rockets that killed less than 36 civilians when it was discovered that the Israelis had killed over two and a half thousand civilians, good Israeli PR

I suppose you also think that the Americans went in to Iraq to free the people of Iraq form Sadam? more likely that Sadam was a threat to Israel that needed removing, and look what that has done for the Iraqis

this will be my last post on this thread, only to say for the grace of god, I’m not a Palestinian living in Palestine right now or any time since 1947, god willing people will eventually see sense and come to terms that one day they have to live there together there, but sadly can’t seeing that happen in not only my lifetime but my children lifetime

I think this id funny on American gun's

 

[Viking]

@David Bershadsky

What Dash cam are we discussing about?

I see you have make 4 thread here in DCT.
Two thread, you asked about dash cam.
One is about you are unhappy about gearbest.com
First you bought a headset which never arrived, you didn’t get credit back and then you honor their service by buy a camera from them, to find out there not are in stock.

What is the purpose of this thread?
I know it hard for you to make a good decision (based on experience with Gearbest), but I think the rest of the DCT, know how to make a research about Israel and find out what happen there if we want.

 

[erkme73]

@David Bershadsky

What Dash cam are we discussing about?

This sub-forum is specifically for 'off-topic' (i.e. non-dash camera) talk.

I think this is a great place to discuss non-camera issues. I, for one, always assumed most people have dash cameras because of a strong distrust of everyone - including law enforcement. So I tend to have a lot of discussion about government and how I think they overreach and abuse their citizenry at every opportunity if not kept in check. This sub-forum is a great way to get the pulse of other cammers without dirtying up the 'camera-specific' threads.

 

[David Bershadsky]

Viking
If you dont want to see it please dont enter to this post,
This is off topic sub fourm,
So please dont tell what to do

 

[TheRookie]

@mollydog
To be honest, after reading your post I don't even know where to begin.
Let's just say that I disagree with you on every single account apart from one and can prove my point of view with facts.
However, as I don't want to turn this topic into shouting match, let's just agree to disagree, OK?

BTW, the one point for which I agree with you is this: "I know fully well anything you say will not change my mind like I know fully well anything I have to say will not change your mind".
Just clarifying 🙂

 

[Mandami]

What Dash cam are we discussing about? ...What is the purpose of this thread?

Discussing, changing opinions, having an idea on how other people think. Be happy because we have this chance, and praise the Lord Internet 😀

babies who don't know about religion

True; take 10,000 children from Palestinians and 10,000 from Israel, place them together, give them a proper scientific education and avoid telling them about their origins. I'm sure they'll work well together.

long time ( on and off ) ppl of virtually all faits and beliefs lived side by side and had a wonderfull life. ...I would venture to say that around WW1 it really started to go bad down there, and my little country is allso partly to blame for that i think.

Do you think the Middle-East was full of butterflies and unicorns puking rainbows, and then, suddenly, because of the white man hell broke loose ? This is what brain washing mass-media machine's telling us.

If those who fought (and died) in WWI would have imagined the direction to which Europe is heading (with all this progressive multiculturalism), they'd probably have killed themselves. This guy says it quite well (Oct 6/2015):

It's sad that we've forgotten their sacrifice:

so now that if you have an EU passport they don’t even stop you to look in your car at Calais when entering the UK anymore ...not sure if you live in your own home or rent, but if your local council took your home away from you tomorrow and gave it to a east european without your knowledge or agreement

I don't mind about the (East)-Europeans (who most of them come to make money and go back to their countries of origin) but rather external invaders (Iraqi, Afghani, Paki, all types of Africans, mostly Muslims) who come to Europe to impose their rules and ways of living. A country is not a piece of land but mainly a system. We can compare it with an orchestra where every one has to know well his score in order to obtain something harmoniously. Some people can't understand that and they keep singing their songs in their way of doing it, while the result becomes quite obvious: total chaos.

much like the south african apartheid ...just wanted to add, the white man in south africa also wanted to live in peace with the black man, just they called it apartheid ...like the Europeans did with the native American ...and I’ll just mention that English isn’t my first language my grammar or spelling might not be up to scratch

... and now the South Africa is a perfect example of democracy and peace to be followed by others.
It's weird that you're so critical on the Europeans, white man, and, in the same time, you liked so much UK to come there. Or, maybe, money has no smell.

kicked out the natives (Palestinians) ...saw this map on the internet ...the native people but it’s another when you kick them out of their land and homes ...you take the land an form another country ...did/were the people living in Palestine asked if they wanted to give up their land to a mother people

To take the land of another country, there must be a country first. That territory was part of the Ottoman Empire and before that, Islamic Empire. There were tribes which were conquered by these Empires. Later, those who had more money and influence got the country 😎

when teenagers start throwing stones at solders with guns, they must be in a really desperate state to take such actions,

I'm totally agreeing with you; like these peaceful pro-Palestinians (Paris, 2014)

But WAIT ...there is more 😀; Jew Zionists are far from being the innocents in this story (they are killing their own people and they are killing the others too). I'll let Gilad Atzmon (Gilad Atzmon (Hebrew: גלעד עצמון‎; born June 9, 1963) is an Israeli-born British jazz saxophonist, novelist, political activist and writer) to speak:

 

[David Bershadsky]

 

[petepete]

I tire with the whole topic of religion and race ...

Simply put, time and time again there is irrefutable conclusive evidence that combined the both are the route of all evil on earth ...

Both hold humanity back

And the probability of both playing a roll in the downfall of humanity is the greatest threat to us all.

I tire with those who label me an "evolutionist" as if I were a lost sole and should be ashamed and I tire with the stupidity of those who put so much emphasis on religion and race...