Joel Irwin
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Last year I purchased both an 0805 and 0806 from Gearbest. I had incorrectly assumed that since the product had a US ship option, that it was a US vendor. I did not know about this web site at the time of my purchases. My interaction over those purchases is now over. So here is what I know/believe -
1. Had they had any sort of intelligent technical support, I would have found out that my problems were not malfunctioning units.
2. Their technical support comes from China and is via email only (which takes forever due to 12 hour time zone differences with the US). They only understand purchasing and returns and IMHO are clueless about those many things we discuss here. If they actually lurk or participate here, they are not the same people who I dealt with in support.
3. They have a return policy which requires returning the product to China and then you only get a credit for another purchase from them. I really don't care as the customer that their return facility is in China. If I purchased from a US Location (Staten Island, NYC), then I should be able to send it back to where it shipped from and they can worry about getting it back to China. Perhaps some retailers in the US allow returns for store credit only, but if they are going to compete with eBay and Amazon vendors, they have to be able to give credit card/paypal credit for returns (without a restocking fee, by the way).
4. The 0805 I purchased from them had problems with the GPS and the 0806 which I purchased from them while trying to figure out the 0805 problem, had the infamous '3 beep problem' since I was using a Sandisk Ultra. Everyone here understands that these are no 'malfunctions' and that there are solutions that allow us to continue to use the units. Gearbest did not.
5. Having been frustrated with the above, I went ahead and disputed both charges with Visa. While the dispute was ongoing (took about 2 months), I learned here that neither was a malfunction problem. I offered to keep one unit (0806) and return the other (0805). But Gearbest insisted on its return policy.
6. Yesterday, I was notified by Visa that the dispute was decided in my favor and I effectively ended up with both units for free. I do feel sad there was no way to work out something with Gearbest, but if I factor in all the time I spent troubleshooting (before I came to this site) and the time I spent in dispute with Visa, I would consider it compensation for my time.
What I would suggest, perhaps if I were Gearbest (i.e., and they lurk here and read this), is to:
1. Have a 0806 option which ships with a card known to work without the three beeps (e.g., Samsung Pro Plus) or at least have something in their documentation or website, describing the cards known to work all the time.
2. Provide a description in the documentation or web site where the best locations would be for placement and why certain windows can cause GPS problems. It should also describe for those who don't understand GPS technology about why it takes 2 to 4 mins the first time to lock (i.e., the satellite triangulation).
3. Change its return policy to ship back to a US location and provide a full refund (minus initial shipping costs) via credit card/paypal.
1. Had they had any sort of intelligent technical support, I would have found out that my problems were not malfunctioning units.
2. Their technical support comes from China and is via email only (which takes forever due to 12 hour time zone differences with the US). They only understand purchasing and returns and IMHO are clueless about those many things we discuss here. If they actually lurk or participate here, they are not the same people who I dealt with in support.
3. They have a return policy which requires returning the product to China and then you only get a credit for another purchase from them. I really don't care as the customer that their return facility is in China. If I purchased from a US Location (Staten Island, NYC), then I should be able to send it back to where it shipped from and they can worry about getting it back to China. Perhaps some retailers in the US allow returns for store credit only, but if they are going to compete with eBay and Amazon vendors, they have to be able to give credit card/paypal credit for returns (without a restocking fee, by the way).
4. The 0805 I purchased from them had problems with the GPS and the 0806 which I purchased from them while trying to figure out the 0805 problem, had the infamous '3 beep problem' since I was using a Sandisk Ultra. Everyone here understands that these are no 'malfunctions' and that there are solutions that allow us to continue to use the units. Gearbest did not.
5. Having been frustrated with the above, I went ahead and disputed both charges with Visa. While the dispute was ongoing (took about 2 months), I learned here that neither was a malfunction problem. I offered to keep one unit (0806) and return the other (0805). But Gearbest insisted on its return policy.
6. Yesterday, I was notified by Visa that the dispute was decided in my favor and I effectively ended up with both units for free. I do feel sad there was no way to work out something with Gearbest, but if I factor in all the time I spent troubleshooting (before I came to this site) and the time I spent in dispute with Visa, I would consider it compensation for my time.
What I would suggest, perhaps if I were Gearbest (i.e., and they lurk here and read this), is to:
1. Have a 0806 option which ships with a card known to work without the three beeps (e.g., Samsung Pro Plus) or at least have something in their documentation or website, describing the cards known to work all the time.
2. Provide a description in the documentation or web site where the best locations would be for placement and why certain windows can cause GPS problems. It should also describe for those who don't understand GPS technology about why it takes 2 to 4 mins the first time to lock (i.e., the satellite triangulation).
3. Change its return policy to ship back to a US location and provide a full refund (minus initial shipping costs) via credit card/paypal.