Rtsp stream, Wifi, download, etc.

@Nigel , you being very knowledgeable of these issues, what would it cost a company like @viofo to just
1. create an app and cloud service through like , an AWS ?
2. Are the A229 and A329 series capable of cloud support with a simple update from VIOFO?

Thanks in advance.
 
You can use a Mikrotik router like an LtAP and use ZeroTier or WireGuard for a VPN hosted on the router.
 
Super6ix said:
@Nigel , you being very knowledgeable of these issues, what would it cost a company like @viofo to just
1. create an app and cloud service through like , an AWS ?
2. Are the A229 and A329 series capable of cloud support with a simple update from VIOFO?

Thanks in advance.
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2. Yes, the A229 and A329 series could access a cloud service. There are a few issues, such as currently, if the app downloads a video from the camera, it first stops recording, presumably for reliability reasons, or maybe performance reasons. If you had automatic file uploads to a cloud server then you would not want it to stop recording while uploading, so there might be some work to do on performance and reliability. The app already works remotely, so there would not be much work to do on the cameras.

1. Depends on what you want the cloud service to do.

Enabling the app to connect to the dashcam via the cloud, so that you don't need a VPN should be fairly easy.

Implementing video file upload and storage is going to be more work, how much free storage are you going to give people? How are you going to bill people for paid storage.

Whatever you decide to include, you have the problem that the cloud service needs to work reliably, securely, legally, and with good performance, in all countries that the dashcams are sold into, and you need to implement a registration and accounting system for all users, storing user details, such as dashcam ownership, credit card and contact details for billing. If you live in New Zealand then you probably don't want to watch live video via a web server in Iceland, which will take time to arrive even at the speed of light, when you are sitting in your car and the dashcam is 1 meter from your phone!

Currently Viofo dashcams just work, anywhere on Earth, even in places with no mobile signal, and when you install the app, that just works too, even on devices with no internet connection. They don't ask for phone numbers etc., unlike other dashcam manufacturers.

For cloud access to your dashcam, the web service needs to know who you are and to know which are your dashcams, you don't want to open the app and find yourself looking at someone else's dashcam live feed, and when you install your dashcam, you don't want others to be able to view your live feeds, although Blackvue not only enabled that, but actively advertised on their server that your feed was available for watching, unknown to you! There are a lot of countries in the world, you need to deal with all the legal issues.

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Thread 'BEWARE Users of Blackvue Cloud Video Sharing is Public by Default'

Hey guys just some info that by Default in your settings and use Cloud you dash cam is Live to the Public, including when you park at home, you can see all the vehicles in your area
on the bv cloud map on phone, not good sharing your privacy publicly especially when parked at home in garage with a live feed publicly... wow scary ... you need to reset settings
until a firmware fix....
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Most people seem happy that Viofo concentrates on image quality rather than implementing cloud features, which most people will hardly ever use anyway, and that Viofo dashcams are very simple to use, with no need for registering and giving away all your security details! The world is changing though, many people now have doorbell cameras live over the cloud, and they expect the same in a dashcam, and they expect it to be just as easy, even thought the doorbell always has access to your home wifi network, which makes things easy. Blackvue concentrated on cloud features instead of image quality, and as a result, we don't see much enthusiasm for Blackview here on dashcamtalk these days they seem to have exited to the fleet market, while Viofo have become the most popular. Blackvue used to be top, selling the most premium (expensive) dashcams, but no more, so I think, so far, Viofo have made the right choices! Doesn't mean that they should stay cloud-free forever though...
 
Nigel said:
The world is changing though, many people now have doorbell cameras live over the cloud, and they expect the same in a dashcam, and they expect it to be just as easy, even thought the doorbell always has access to your home wifi network, which makes things easy.
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the existing smart home network vendors have already been into this for years ... rather than dashcam vendors re-inventing the wheel, it might make sense to work together on this? But there's always the issue that the dashcam has to live in a car without reliable power sources, internet access, shade or ventilation, - unlike home systems.
 
Accomplished_Arm_447 said:
the existing smart home network vendors have already been into this for years ... rather than dashcam vendors re-inventing the wheel, it might make sense to work together on this? But there's always the issue that the dashcam has to live in a car without reliable power sources, internet access, shade or ventilation, - unlike home systems.
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My car spends a lot of time at home, it would be nice if it could talk to my smart home network. Then when a house motion detector sees movement at night, it can turn on the driveway lights and wake the dashcam up to record the action, or when the dashcam detects an impact to the car at night, the smart home can turn on the driveway lights so that the intruder can be properly recorded and chased away.

Smart homes are not really about video though, thread/matter networks are not designed to carry video. Apple Home, available free on iPhone/Mac will show me live video from security cameras that use the wifi network, but it doesn't have all the features of Dashcam Viewer. It will however give me remote internet access to my live video at zero cost, the only charges come if I want to store a lot of video long term, which is something I would like from a dashcam cloud, but which none of the manufacturers appear to be providing.

Yes, it would be nice if Apple and Viofo would work together on an integrated home/car video security cloud system, but I don't have much expectation of that happening!
 
Nigel said:
Smart homes are not really about video though, thread/matter networks are not designed to carry video
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I was thinking more about Eufy, Arlo, Ring, etc - wireless security cameras. Indoor mains-powered, and outdoor battery ones with months between charges. Infrared and motion detection, face recognition. The apps already support live view, notifications, etc. Some robovacs let you drive it around with camera on to do roaming inspections, and I think there's mini-drones too.

Sometimes people that have seen what the home systems can do get disappointed when they see how limited car dashcams are in comparison, as I said to the difficulties of in-car environment.
 
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