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mike-k said:
@Gibson99

Thank you for those words - I believed I'm the only one with this problem... (yesterday I've been finding myself in the situation of googling Windows-CMD-Commands as the ones for Linux didn't work and I didn't remember the Windows-ones 😉

LiVES is still around, but give Cinelerra a Chance, I found it more stable and easier to learn, as its GUI looks more like the other Editors...
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if you're forced to use a windows machine and have to do something at the command line, use powershell instead of cmd. it's installed by default on win7 and up, and is optional on vista. it can be installed on xp but not worth the trouble. regular dos commands still work in PS as well, though sometimes their output (dir in particular) looks a little different. still trying to learn PS myself, since i work in a windows shop as an SCCM administrator, and vbscript can only do so much. PS has a lot more power.

starting to wonder whether i should even keep the win10 box around anymore... doesn't give me any advantage at home, esp since we now have a couple VMs with win10 at work. i can't imagine it'll change THAT much between now and RTM. i think i'll just go ahead and put mint on that pc, but i'll go w/ KDE instead of cinnamon. Normally I'd just go w/ xfce for lightweight simplicity, but this machine has plenty of horsepower, so i'll splurge a little, but also stick with what I know.

i find it odd that there's not a gnome version. or has gnome dropped in popularity that much?

will definitely try out cinelerra.

and if by chance none of you have heard of it... check out http://alternativeto.net/ - very handy for finding an alternative to a program you liked on one platform, on a different platform. it's how i found the BlueFish editor when i first seriously tried linux, as well as things like LiVES, KiiiB (burner/ripper util), and many other things. Back then they only had windows, mac and linux sections, but now they have iOS and Android sections as well.
 
I believe if you start "cmd.exe" in SevenPro, it starts automaticly the Powerless-Shell "looking like CMD"..?

Tried it with XP - Issue: it can be handled like "the Bash", but it still uses different Commands - didn't know them either 😉 ...someone should create a Powershell-Command-Toolbox "porting" Bash-Commands to Windows... 😉

And yes - Gnome did not well. It bloated up, and became terribly slow. Gnome2 has been so great, but ... Like Ubuntu with Unity... As soon Developers start thinking "Users might like this", ...prepare for freefall...
 
I don't have any XP machines anymore, but i do remember having to download and install powershell on them many years ago. it's already there on my win7 enterprise machine, and i believe it's also there on all win7 and higher versions. just click start and type powershell, and you will get a blue CLI window.
 
...thats what I meant... I remember having read something like "if you start cmd.exe in Win7, it starts a powershell emulating the old commandprompt"...

But - actually, it's a good idea... I'll have another Look into the Powershell as soon the Migration to Yosemite is done... 🙂
 
win10 has an option to open powershell instead of cmd, but afaik, if you do start/run cmd.exe on win7, it opens the black dos window, not powershell. i have two separate shortcuts for cmd and PS in the quicklaunch area on my taskbar because there are times when i still need regular dos and not PS. it's rare, but it happens.
 
@mike-k - i grabbed cinelerra-cv using the apt-get instructions on their site. it appears to open normally and lets me move its various windows around, but as soon as i try to open a file, it just closes. no error messages, no warnings, just gone. lives does the same thing. kednlive seems to work fine. i poked around with it for a while and figured out how to trim a clip - a little kludgy but i'm sure there's another, better way. i love how in VSDC you get the chance to cut/crop, add markers and split up a source file before adding it to the timeline, but if that functionality exists in kdenlive, i haven't found it yet. then again I've only messed with kdenlive long enough to cut out the relevant 20 seconds of a 5 minute dashcam file and render it with a simple fade to black at the end. couldn't find the audio fade, but it's probably there and just named something i'm not expecting, since there are literally pages and pages of audio transforms/effects.

i would have thought that grabbing cinelerra and lives through apt-get and synaptic would automatically fulfill any dependencies, and from what i saw, it grabbed a ton of additional packages in the process. i also did the max memory tweak that cinelerra wanted, but all that did was get rid of the "hey, do this" popup on startup, and actually make it take more than a split second to launch. any suggestions?

edit: could the cinerella web page possibly be any more annoying? full window video and sound with no way to shut it the hell up.

hey cinerella - the 90s called; they want their webpage back.
 
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unfortunatly not - that's the first time i've heard of this behaviour...

i've installed lives via synaptic - worked fine. cinelerra likewise (though i don't remeber how i installed it - disadvantage of a "running system", nothing much to repeat 😉

i'll check in a VM on mint if this might be a newer problem... brb!

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strange - same problem here... now that IS new...!? unfortunatly i still have no clue on why or how ...!?
 
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the window manager or desktop environment shouldn't matter, right? i'm running kde.

so i've started putting something together in kdenlive, and i'm getting to like it even more than vsdc, if for no other reason than the fact that i can put an outline around the fonts to make them look nicer and be easier to read. the time line makes more sense to me, and cropping clips is super easy, as is breaking them up for different effects (pan/zoom, speed, etc). effects aren't too difficult to apply either, though i'm still figuring them out. it did throw a segfault once, but the crash recovery worked almost perfectly. i only had to recreate one effect on the whole timeline.
 
Someone owes me a keyboard- I just spewed coffee all over mine from laughing!

Phil
 
still have no clew what causes those problems...?
but no, WM should not matter - I've been using Mate, having same issues...
 
Gibson99 said:
hey, where'd that graphic go? i was gonna share it with some coworkers...
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Same here (except for the coworker part). I suspect it was deleted because of the language it included. 🙁
 
mike-k said:
still have no clew what causes those problems...?
but no, WM should not matter - I've been using Mate, having same issues...
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i'm not super concerned about it at this point. i don't have loads of time to play with it, and since i like the ease of use of kdenlive (which looks similar in operation to cinelerra) i'll just keep using kednlive. course i haven't even turned on that PC since i finished making the video last week...

i really like how you can play with zoom using keyframes so it's a gradual zoom rather than just suddenly magnifying it. very handy for dashcam vids, to point out something happening, esp with the wide angle lenses making everything look far away.

here's the video i made using kdenlive in case you haven't seen it already, in the videos you recorded section.
 
My Windows 8.1 box that is running some decent hardware always seems to keep blue screening because of a driver issue. It has been that way since a friend and I built it. I can't wait to get an SSD in my net top and get mint on it





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