Using site to Slander BlackVue

[e350 coupe]

I came to this site for information on a Dash Cam

I am very impressed on assistance and recommendations given by 99% of members

I purchased a 500 from "mass buy" for $239

After a couple of weeks I then noted an update resolving and improving the camera

I then noted a lot of Posts relating to one member who was slandering "BlackVue" on numerous accounts in order to get a lot of public opinion to think there is a problem with his camera. This persons goes on to state that "numerous" people are having the same problem as him, and that it is a problem with the software. even though numerous people including myself have not had his problem.

Needless to say he has entered numerous different posts in this forum all over the fact that his time will not change,

After getting tired of reading these numerous posts, I left him a negative, as his posts amounts to slander, and claims of numerous people having a time fixing problem, and the fact that "BlackVue" has done this on purpose and will not give this person immediate attention, so further slanderous posts are submitted.

Now this person has gone and searched all my posts and left negative reputations as retaliation.

These comments can be viewed by searching my posts and seeing his comments, of which include I am possibly a Canadian BlackVue Vendor.

I am actually a specialist in law for the last 32 years 1 month and 9 days.

Once again this person attempts to slander anyone who does not agree with him.

The Torts, or civil remedy, is applicable where a person attempts to make the appearance of a problem, be larger then actually what it is.

By doing numerous searches on various search engines it gives the appearance that there are numerous problems in regards to this person's time marking, when in fact there was only 2 people who had the problem and 1 of them was able to remedy the problem.

If this continues, I will take the necessary action, as for others I would advise on reframing leaving negative posts until the forum moderators adjust the way reputation is given out.

The squeaky wheel does not always get the grease, and entering mass posts over the same item will not force the Vendor to instantly reply to your single problem.

 

[e30blitz]

Whilst I cannot write as well as you
I have had no issues with blackview ,

I remember one post where another was asking ,
Which dashcam to buy

From my experience I mentioned the blackview 500 wifi

What I got was a left and a right
Uppercut
Then knocked out cold

Keyboard warrior had knocked me and my humble blackview out

All I can say is if a unit fails take it back to where you got it from

When something goes wrong we get all angry and upset and feel the need to blowoff

When a unit is good we don't say anything

My unit has worked perfect I am happy


,

And for those who moan
Well it's only a dashcam
Life could be worse

Enjoy your day



Sent from the half eaten apple

 

[Hillbilly]

I came to this site for information on a Dash Cam

I am very impressed on assistance and recommendations given by 99% of members

I purchased a 500 from "mass buy" for $239

After a couple of weeks I then noted an update resolving and improving the camera

I then noted a lot of Posts relating to one member who was slandering "BlackVue" on numerous accounts in order to get a lot of public opinion to think there is a problem with his camera. This persons goes on to state that "numerous" people are having the same problem as him, and that it is a problem with the software. even though numerous people including myself have not had his problem.

Needless to say he has entered numerous different posts in this forum all over the fact that his time will not change,

After getting tired of reading these numerous posts, I left him a negative, as his posts amounts to slander, and claims of numerous people having a time fixing problem, and the fact that "BlackVue" has done this on purpose and will not give this person immediate attention, so further slanderous posts are submitted.

Now this person has gone and searched all my posts and left negative reputations as retaliation.

These comments can be viewed by searching my posts and seeing his comments, of which include I am possibly a Canadian BlackVue Vendor.

I am actually a specialist in law for the last 32 years 1 month and 9 days.

Once again this person attempts to slander anyone who does not agree with him.

The Torts, or civil remedy, is applicable where a person attempts to make the appearance of a problem, be larger then actually what it is.

By doing numerous searches on various search engines it gives the appearance that there are numerous problems in regards to this person's time marking, when in fact there was only 2 people who had the problem and 1 of them was able to remedy the problem.

If this continues, I will take the necessary action, as for others I would advise on reframing leaving negative posts until the forum moderators adjust the way reputation is given out.

The squeaky wheel does not always get the grease, and entering mass posts over the same item will not force the Vendor to instantly reply to your single problem.

I totally agree with you except for one small point "slander "is spoken and "Libel" is written and is more serious as its there for all to see. However whatever grabs you I guess

Not trolling you but a correct definition is best ( ref Collins English Dictionary )

I think the moderators should remove all the mentioned duplicate posts and alter the reputation ratings somewhat so that you have an appeal against it if necessary.

To me the problem would be irritating but not the end of the world .

I would ask nicely for a remedy as if I was Blackvue he would get a very negative response especially as it was all posted over a weekend when a company would not be working.

I unwittingly bought a Korean version but it still worked as it should even though I couldnt understand it.

 

[DashCamMan]

Thanks for bringing this up. That user has been warned.

When I installed the reputation system, there is an option to only do a thumbs up / "like" a post. Perhaps that model makes more sense since negative reputation can cause some issue and tension.

 

[e30blitz]

Thanks for bringing this up. That user has been warned.

When I installed the reputation system, there is an option to only do a thumbs up / "like" a post. Perhaps that model makes more sense since negative reputation can cause some issue and tension.

Sent from the half eaten apple

 

[e30blitz]

Thanks for bringing this up. That user has been warned.

When I installed the reputation system, there is an option to only do a thumbs up / "like" a post. Perhaps that model makes more sense since negative reputation can cause some issue and tension.

Sent from the half eaten apple

 

[cube]

Ok since the author of this thread has started to attack another user on the forum publicly I have to speak out and defend this user. As far as I am concerned everyone has a right to speak their mind on this forum. Just because the person has a strong opinion about something and others don't agree doesn't mean they should be stopped from expressing themselves. People should be able to debate stuff on here in a friendly way without personal attacks on each other. Everyone should be here to learn and discuss in a friendly manner. If you don't like what someone is saying then counter their argument with relevant points and debate the issue with them in the relevant thread when it comes up. There is no need to go on about how you are being slandered and creating a post attacking another user on here because you don't agree with them. He/she is one person expressing their opinion and experiences with this particular dashcam if you have a problem with the experience the user is having mention it and correct the false claims in the thread in question but don't go whining to a moderator (me) about how you are being abused. I accepted the fact that the reputation system may be abused or broken in some way so I reset the reputations for each user and warned the user in question from further devolving this into a tit for tat thing by attacking others using the reputation system. The author of this slander post only has a minimal number of posts to his/her credit. The user he is criticizing has 4 times as many posts on here. Before you criticize others and complain please contribute to the forum and add value to it. If you see something you disagree with in a post address the issue and correct it with valid factual information don't attack the individual making the claim or say nothing at all when something is incorrect. I have looked at the posts e350 coupe has made on this forum up to now and I see no posts where he/she attempts to correct these issues/concerns or misconceptions about the blackvue cam he is complaining about with the user in question in the threads in question to set the record straight. All I have seen is e350 coupe using the reputation system to attack another user and the other user retaliating using the same said reputation system. I am sure that most people reading this forum are intelligent enough to weight for themselves how much stock they want to put into someones claims when evaluating dashcams and won't be fooled by false claims and assertions. I would hope they can make up their own mind when making a dashcam purchasing decision on how much they let one person's experience influence their purchasing decision and don't blindly trust everything they read on a forum.

Anyways, I have said my peace on the issue. I think everyone should be able to write about their dashcam experiences good or bad as much as they want. If you disagree with someone make it known in the relevant thread and correct the misconception there. People will evaluate the arguments there good or bad and make up their own mind. Don't use the reputation system or come whining to a moderator about how you are being attacked or don't like what someone is saying and hope for a miracle. There is a lot of misinformation on the internet that is just how it goes, everyone should do their homework and evaluate the source and stop complaining and contribute positively if they want to make this forum better for everyone.

 

[tonymy01]

No user was mentioned in this first post. I believe it was in reference to another user that kept posting the same thing in every thread, and many times the same thing in the same thread. We all got it after the first or second time, no need for the forum pollution.

 

[Hillbilly]

The original post was referring, as said, to another member who posted the same thing in at least 7 threads. The OP in this thread was defending Blackvue along the lines that they didnt deserve the hammering they were getting about a minor problem.
This in most peoples view is fair enough. He went on to say he had been attacked for doing this.

This is not in the spirit of the forum And posters should not mass post in several threads, identical things just to make a point. E350coupe said he is happy with his camera.

Several of us have pointed out to the poster complained about that he is in the minority with his problem and the way he has gone about publicly getting at Blackvue is not the way to go about it.

We have also spent time trying to offer solutions but it didnt stop his rants towards Blackvue

He got to get a lot more posts by multiposting the same thing which is hardly fair either. We all want a robust discussion but this has gone far beyond that.



Thank you

 

[cube]

Well I just moderate the forum to prevent spam, it is dashcamman who runs the website. I said my peace, e350 coupe came to me complaining about the reputation system and how he felt he was being attacked. I corrected the reputation system and reset it for him and warned that user not to continue attacking him through the reputation system politely privately because it wasn't friendly. The fact that e350 coupe has escalated this shows he/she has some sort of agenda and since it is now public I will let users of this forum decide what is best and what should be done. It is dashcamman's website so he will way in on this thread again obviously. I have told the user that is being attacked that he is free to respond in this thread and make his views heard. I think any and all debate should be done in this thread. If there is constructive criticism to be made it should be done in this thread and hopefully it can be done in a friendly manner and all issues resolved.

 

[tonymy01]

Thanks Cube, maybe we do have our wires a bit crossed here

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[Hillbilly]

Well I just moderate the forum to prevent spam, it is dashcamman who runs the website. I said my peace, e350 coupe came to me complaining about the reputation system and how he felt he was being attacked. I corrected the reputation system and reset it for him and warned that user not to continue attacking him through the reputation system politely privately because it wasn't friendly. The fact that e350 coupe has escalated this shows he/she has some sort of agenda and since it is now public I will let users of this forum decide what is best and what should be done. It is dashcamman's website so he will way in on this thread again obviously. I have told the user that is being attacked that he is free to respond in this thread and make his views heard. I think any and all debate should be done in this thread. If there is constructive criticism to be made it should be done in this thread and hopefully it can be done in a friendly manner and all issues resolved.

Perhaps then if you are a Moderator it could say that below your screen name so we know who we are dealing with as at present it says " Beginner" who on any forum I've been on is not usually a moderator.

As far as the OP in this thread is concerned I think he has a valid point and I support him both in his response to the Slandering of Blackvue and his response to being attacked.

There comes a point when enough is enough and the mods should step in and stop it without prompting as had to be done in this case.

Perhaps the reputation system could as Dashcaman said, become positive only as it appears to be used negatively unfairly.

Now Ive said my "PIECE" and hope for PEACE.!!!!!

 

[vbx]

Can you really blame him though? We paid about $300 for a dash cam. One would want it to work as described. To serve it's purpose. Collect accurate data along with a decent video.

I understand why he is frustrated. I was to when my cam couldn't focus on the plates. After it was all said and done, I received a better unit and I am happy with it now.

 

[e350 coupe]

Well I just moderate the forum to prevent spam, it is dashcamman who runs the website. I said my peace, e350 coupe came to me complaining about the reputation system and how he felt he was being attacked. I corrected the reputation system and reset it for him and warned that user not to continue attacking him through the reputation system politely privately because it wasn't friendly. The fact that e350 coupe has escalated this shows he/she has some sort of agenda and since it is now public I will let users of this forum decide what is best and what should be done. It is dashcamman's website so he will way in on this thread again obviously. I have told the user that is being attacked that he is free to respond in this thread and make his views heard. I think any and all debate should be done in this thread. If there is constructive criticism to be made it should be done in this thread and hopefully it can be done in a friendly manner and all issues resolved.

Cube, I have absolutely no Agenda. I came to forum as it is only info site when I did a search on internet. I wrote thread prior to contacting you. I found lots of great information on the DashCam that I purchased from Mass buy for 239 shipped. It was this site and it's members that made my decision to buy this DashCam.

I marked this site as a favourite and attend it when ever possible, for excellent advice from it's membership. I then noted that every thread then referenced the same problem and really off topic. This went on at least 5-7 topics. I then did a search on internet over problems with the ratio or recording of which I went from 60/20/20 to 20/60/20 and could not change. It was then that I discovered all the complaints on the internet which came to this poster, posting in numerous topics over same problem.

I then posted negative comments, which were relevant, several minutes later I got negative comments accusing me of possibly being a BlackVue Vendor in Canada, then comments on how I should be using a PC and not a Mac, and on and on. These comments were all sent to me by e-mail with 4 negative posts or user raring. In 30 minutes I went from a zero to a -4, all for what.

This forum is set up that when you leave a negative comment for what is a legitimate reason, the person receives an e-mail advising them of such, and who left the comment. I was then given numerous negative comments as retaliation. I have over 3 decades of law, which is irrelevant to anything in this forum.

I come here for help and interesting articles in this forum, such as changing bit rates, sites with new firmware, angle sizes, polarizes lenses, etc.etc.

I do not like people who attempt to slander companies for no reason as they feel if they complain numerous times then the company will stop all work, to remedy their problem. I have problems with settings on this camera and other minor things, but overall the unit is great.

It is great that there is a representative of BlackVue on this forum, however telling them that there unit is "crap" and posting this numerous times in different postings will not make them happy to resolve anyone's problems, and we will all be affected when this happens.

Someone posted we complain when things go wrong but not when things are great, I am attempting to level out this field.

I am very impressed at this unit and with some changes, will be the best unit out there.

just my .02 cents worth.

 

[DashCamMan]

So we have made a change to the reputation system so that no negative points can be assigned. As for deleting people's posts, that is not something we will do unless it is spam or it is breaking one of the rules.

If someone is posting something excessively, we will warn them but we believe our members can make up their own mind based on reading the posts provided. The reality is to get a good understanding of the pros and cons of particular cameras we need to accept all opinions. Sometimes debates can get heated but hopefully our members don't resort to personal attacks.

 

[jokiin]

Sometimes debates can get heated but hopefully our members don't resort to personal attacks.

Just on this point if anyone thinks someone is out of line the preferred method would be to report the post, (doesn't always happen), bringing it to the attention of the admins and moderators is better than fueling the fire with a retaliation, the written word can't carry tone and is very often misinterpreted, it's easy for things to go off course quickly when this happens

Also spare a thought for those in different timezones, sometimes complaining about something can take hours until it can be looked into because the person that needs to is fast asleep while your day is just starting, don't get impatient waiting for issues to get attended to, it will in due course, an admin or moderator role on any forum often involves a lot behind the scenes so cut the guys some slack if it's not happening straight away, take note of the number of members here verses the member number of the most recent member to join and you'll see they're currently around 400 apart, that's the quantity of spammers that have been dealt with and its a number that grows all the time, all takes time to deal with and there's very little resources to take care of it, having to sort out members having a go at each other over differences of opinion is a further waste of effort for those involved and gets tiring very quickly, the maintenance needed in the backend is already a very time consuming process as anyone that admins a forum would know

 

[Hillbilly]

I marked this site as a favourite and attend it when ever possible, for excellent advice from it's membership. I then noted that every thread then referenced the same problem and really off topic. This went on at least 5-7 topics. I then did a search on internet over problems with the ratio or recording of which I went from 60/20/20 to 20/60/20 and could not change. It was then that I discovered all the complaints on the internet which came to this poster, posting in numerous topics over same problem.



I am very impressed at this unit and with some changes, will be the best unit out there.

just my .02 cents worth.

Change the setting to "time" and the ratio wont matter. I have mine on that and on the occasional time I need to look at the video I just take it out when I get home and copy the "Record" folder to a HDD I have my driving settings fairly low so as to stop rough bits of road setting it off and the parking set fairly high so as to record light bumps which may do damage.

All lights and audio warnings from "event" turned off.

 

[defbear]

e350 coupe using the site to libel defbear

e350coupe, I did not quote your misleading missive above as you should be embarrassed posting it in the first place.

I do not know who you are. We are all anonymous here. You could be a teenager in their bedroom. After this post you are anathema to me.

So with only 8 posts on this Forum, you decided one night to sit in your chair and start judging defbear. You did not add to the conversation. You did not PM me. No you decided to start throwing firebombs at me. So I too went from zero reputation to -3. Wow all from one newbie. All three thumbs down with the same three repeated dunce comments. Cut Paste Condemn. So I read all your posts and I started to judge you, just as you had done to me. Remember its been said for 2000+ years Judge not or you may be judged also. I saw no need to add comments to your threads. That is not your way. I found 4 posts that 'I' didnt like. You showed me the proper way is just to throw down some Red Thumbs Down on you as you did to me. I had not seen anyone do that before. :shock:

When you didn't like that ,you went and complained to the Moderators, that I defbear had done 'you' harm by doing unto you as you had done to me. Remember the Golden Rule? Do into others as you would have done to you. I hoped the moderators would enter into it. And it sounds like you went ballistic

So when whining to the Moderators did get you what you wanted, you basically went behind their backs and posted your inane diatribe against me.

Your post is so cowardly it did not even mention me by my Forum 'name'. Boo Hoo you didnt like me posting in seven Blackvue date & time threads.

I will not re-state the problem I have with my camera. The fact that there are seven different threads on the same subject should tell you something. Notice I only started one short post. At this writing I see we have new date & time problems in the U.S. Australia and Singapore using 1.008kr (ouch). I digress. This is about e350 coupe's personal comments about me.

What touched such a sore nerve? Hmmm? My first thought was that you are a Blackvue Distributer or Retail reseller. Although I am allowed to comment on the quality of your posts, we are not allowed to call each other names. You say you do not have any financial stake in Dashcams in any way, correct? I will take you at your word.

Moderators please indulge me:
So e350 coupe-anathema you must be the most over zealous, out-of-line BlackVue FANBOY ever

You got on this site and bought a camera cheap. Having bought a camera here you must be one of the hooked-up insiders right? Who is this upstart besmirching my chosen camera? I must thereby defend the honor of Pittasoft Corporation of Korea :lol: Puh-leeze what is this? Does 350-anathema say? He likes Superman but that defbear likes Batman so lets fight about it? Sorry if I put doubt in your mind about Your Camera and you couldn't take it.

If this sounds too harsh, 350 ecoupe You started it, then you enlarged it and then you lit it on fire in public without a single comment to me. What did you expect?

You brought up Torts. That's another laugh. Nothing that anyone has ever said on this entire Forum could be used as Tort. But if you want to sue someone over this international heresy, go over to the general dashcam forum and read the Blackvue comments. Those people are throwing pure vitriol at Pittasoft. But then you did put a great deal of emphasis on your experience in Law. I quote "I am actually a specialist in law for the last 32 years 1 month and 9 days". Are you counting the days until you get out?

Lastly I'm glad Your Camera works for You. But if it ever breaks on you, here is a website with just the camera for you:
http://www.winycam-eng.com/

 

[defbear]

Extending Peace Pipe to 350 ecoupe

So e350 ecoupe. I was going to PM you but decided to go public because this means so much to me.
We really seemed to have pissed each other off :!: But I'm done. Swallow your umbrage if you can. Be my friend. We have had our fun.
You did do some good here. Before posting my reply, I took a look at myself and my posts. I did remove the one double post I had put in two threads. In deference to you and to good taste I have changed terms similar to 'piece of crap' to words such as 'unfortunate'' Thank you sir.
User Blackvue and I took our communication off Forum. They are most gracious but communication is slow. I believe he has to hear from higher ups and the engineers. They have my cameras serial number which will tell them which North American build it is. We are cordially working towards a solution together.
And I would like to have cordial relations with you.
defbear

 

[tonymy01]

Sigh. Religious diatribe, law diatribe, anything else?

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