Vueroid S1 4K Infinite vs Thinkware U3000 Pro vs Viofo A329S

[kamkar]

The connectors on top systems i have to be mindful installing, but here not bad as mount on/off is sideways.
But this is due to the thinness of the share area on my windscreen, and me of course wanting to have the system as high up on that dotted area for stealth reasons.

 

[TonyM]

I wish the wire management was a little tidier. But i do like that i do not need to disconnect them.

Agreed - I'd prefer 3 straight plugs to run cables up into the headliner, though I suppose some people will want to mount right up against the headliner...

 

[qbacreative]

Yes a dashcam power pack get charged when the car is running, i run the 70 mai one and i do need to drive like 70 minutes or so for it to be fully recharged again.
The dashcam power pack will charge fastest on a Fused connection, going by the cigarette 12 V plug the charge rate need to be a bit lower, not a lot but lower none the less.
I am connected up to a 30 A fuse in my car for that ( 12 V constant supply ) the 12 V ACC is just a 10 A fuse as it is pretty much just for signaling.
This pack will run flat after a couple of days, i only do worth mentioning drives 2 times a week, when i drive 45 KM to visit my old mother and then my friend where i shoot a bit, do that drive 2 times a week, and then my dashcam power pack are fully charged even if i stay overnight at my friends place some times to get 2 days of shooting.

I am on a pension, so swatting 2 flies with one go is nice, visit mom - visit friend that live like 2 KM from where my mother live.

Sounds like a very relaxed life you have, but I’m sure your to do list is as long as any of ours that are still incorporated in the work force, that dreaded to do list propel us in keep on moving, and not matter our place in life it is always full.

I thought doing all these research for a dashcam was going to be the end of it, now I need to become a battery expert to figured out which one to buy lol

Thanks for sharing all these details about the battery, we do drive the needed 40 minutes a day so we should be ok, since I want to install an engine immobilizer a remote starter and a dashcam, I will go with an installer, I will make sure to remind him to connect the battery to the 30A fuse to get that constant needed 12v.

 

[qbacreative]

Thinkware U3000 Pro dashcam vs Vueroid S1 4K dash camera

As always great video, it was very informative to have a physical inspection of the cams side by side. Amount other things I was impressed by the S1 flexibility of removing the cam without unplugging the cables, and the positioning of the lens.

Can you please do the same comparison with the Viofo and the Vueroid S1?

 

[SafeDriveSolutions]

As always great video, it was very informative to have a physical inspection of the cams side by side. Amount other things I was impressed by the S1 flexibility of removing the cam without unplugging the cables, and the positioning of the lens.

Can you please do the same comparison with the Viofo and the Vueroid S1?

I have the videos. Just need time to produce it. We did already put a video out comparing video quality of the 2 and it was neck and neck.

 

[qbacreative]

I have the videos. Just need time to produce it. We did already put a video out comparing video quality of the 2 and it was neck and neck.

I watched that one it was great, thanks!

 

[qusejr2]

Agreed - I'd prefer 3 straight plugs to run cables up into the headliner, though I suppose some people will want to mount right up against the headliner...

That's why we had decided to use right angle.

 

[TonyM]

I wish the wire management was a little tidier. But i do like that i do not need to disconnect them.

My dashcams are usually mounted a few inches clear of the headliner so they can have a clear view around the sensor housing behind the rear view mirror, and I have plenty of frit area for them to be mounted on without being too noticeable from outside. They are however rather obvious from within the car.

From a practical point of view I like having all 3 cables plug into the mount on the S1, although I feel 3x right-angle plugs looks a bit untidy.

I think the A329S looks better with a pair of right-angle coax cables exiting the side of the main camera although that does make it more cumbersome to remove the camera - perhaps for cleaning the glass or to bring the camera inside for testing. I'm not so pleased with the appearance of the right-angle USB-C plug of the HK6 exiting the top of the GPS mount, however I appreciate that both cameras would look better if they were mounted at the top of the glass.

I remove the S1 4K on the right whenever I need to access the microSD card slots in either the A329S or the S1 4K, which has been a few times a week during testing, so I appreciate that it's quick and easy to do. Most owners will have a single dashcam and leave it in place for long periods of time, so I suspect ease of removal is less important for a regular user than a dashcam tester with side-by-side cameras.

 

[lufa6977]

Wire management and individual tidiness needs will always be an issue. Sometimes there are things that we need to learn to live with. Once we stuck a dashcam on the windshield, the 'tidy' went away. 🙂

There are solutions, of course. Manufacturers can use a single connector that carries all channels, but people would be unhappy about the larger wire diameter. Or that the wire is too stiff, or perhaps they have a one-channel but are paying for a 3-channel connector. Users complained about the right-angle connectors when they were on the side of the dashcam; as I recall, it was mainly because the cable blocked access to the SD card, or because there were two on the same side, which was 'untidy'. When manufacturers used straight cables, users complained they could not mount the dashcam as high on the screen as they wanted.

In the past, when I did manufacturing evals under NDAs, I graded a feature or hardware aspect into three categories.

Adequate
Needs Improvement
Neutral

You can ask 1000 people what they like in a cable, as far as a straight connector or right-angled connector for dashcams, and you will likely never get 90 percent for one or the other. I would grade the connector style used as a "Neutral", simple because probably 900 users couldn't care less, and 100 installers/influencers won't agree among themselves 100 percent of the time.

Vueroid uses two right angles and one straight connector. For the U.S. market, where the S1 4K is initially released, the left connector (Power) right-angles and travels to where generally the fuse panel is found in the left foot-well. The Interior cam is right-angled to facilitate its placement, usually, to the right of the dashcam, though not always. The Rear cam is the straight connector, as it would be unwieldy to have three right-angled connectors in the same line-up. Imagine the complaints if that were the case. 😉

Vueroid put considerable thought into these connectors. Three right-angled (90-degree) connectors would have been problematic for most users. Three straight would please some users, but there could be issues with frits, headliners, and vehicles that had limited space at the top of the glass due to vehicle headline consoles for safety features. With the S1 4K, you can always reverse the Rear cam cable: use the right-angle at the rear camera and the straight end at the front camera.

 

[qusejr2]

My dashcams are usually mounted a few inches clear of the headliner so they can have a clear view around the sensor housing behind the rear view mirror, and I have plenty of frit area for them to be mounted on without being too noticeable from outside. They are however rather obvious from within the car.

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From a practical point of view I like having all 3 cables plug into the mount on the S1, although I feel 3x right-angle plugs looks a bit untidy.

I think the A329S looks better with a pair of right-angle coax cables exiting the side of the main camera although that does make it more cumbersome to remove the camera - perhaps for cleaning the glass or to bring the camera inside for testing. I'm not so pleased with the appearance of the right-angle USB-C plug of the HK6 exiting the top of the GPS mount, however I appreciate that both cameras would look better if they were mounted at the top of the glass.

I remove the S1 4K on the right whenever I need to access the microSD card slots in either the A329S or the S1 4K, which has been a few times a week during testing, so I appreciate that it's quick and easy to do. Most owners will have a single dashcam and leave it in place for long periods of time, so I suspect ease of removal is less important for a regular user than a dashcam tester with side-by-side cameras.

I feel 3x right-angle plugs looks a bit untidy. => we will consdier about this point.

 

[TonyM]

The Rear cam is the straight connector, as it would be unwieldy to have three right-angled connectors in the same line-up. Imagine the complaints if that were the case.

With the S1 4K, you can always reverse the Rear cam cable: use the right-angle at the rear camera and the straight end at the front camera.

I did not want to reverse the rear camera cable because the pigtail connection at the camera end is an inline straight cable run in my car. Using the right-angle plug here did not make sense when I installed it, however there may be a way to use the 90deg plug in combination with the rear hatch - I will give that some thought.

The dotted line is the route of the A329S rear camera coax cable through the flexi tubing. I do not think I can push the S1 pigtail through that tube alongside the other cables which are already present. I may try again though.

 

[lufa6977]

I did not want to reverse the rear camera cable because the pigtail connection at the camera end is an inline straight cable run in my car. Using the right-angle plug here did not make sense when I installed it, however there may be a way to use the 90deg plug in combination with the rear hatch - I will give that some thought.

The dotted line is the route of the A329S rear camera coax cable through the flexi tubing. I do not think I can push the S1 pigtail through that tube alongside the other cables which are already present. I may try again though.

Because I did not like the three 90-degree connectors at the GPS, and because the middle connector for the Rear cam would be challenging to remove for testing, I flipped the rear cable and put the straight end at the GPS module. I confess, it was a bear pulling that 90-degree connector through the rubber boot at the hatchback.

When I initially began evaluating the S1 4K, one of the items I pointed out to Vueroid was that the three right-angle connections at the GPS module were klutzy, and people would complain about them. They went with the three 90-degree angles based on their experience: customers preferred the dashcam closer to the top of the glass. I think I tossed a solution to them, but I'm not sure. The truth is, I have seldom liked a 90-degree connector on anything that was 'top-fed'. The 90-degree connectors are excellent for streamlining devices with various vertical, horizontal, or angled sides... but are not as advantageous at the top of a dashcam.

Frankly, I would prefer three straight connectors to exit the GPS module, with the Rear camera cable having a straight on both ends.

Had the GPS module been perhaps 5mm deeper, the three 90-degree connectors would probably be a non-issue because they could be laid out in a row, pointing in the same direction. Drawbacks include the dashcam being farther from the glass, possible conflict with some rear-view mirrors, and difficulty removing one or more of the connectors. A single connector housing containing all cables can be used, but it poses known issues of its own.

There are different solutions available, but they tend to have a negative aspect to them somewhere, it seems.

 

[kamkar]

But ?

Even with 3 angle connectors at the mount, cant you still route the 3 wires to the same side ??

it was a bear pulling that 90-degree connector through the rubber boot at the hatchback.

You should have started in the back pulling the strait plug thru the wire boot.

 

[Mtz]

Not sure when the forum was actually launched i don't think much before that.

At the beginning, only @DashCamMan was giving replies here, but his replies were something once a day, sometimes next day. People were asking and DashCanMan responding like at some client service.
Then I came here and I gave replies many times a day in all threads and from then the forum changed. I already had some forum experience from 8 years before, most of them as a moderator.

 

[lufa6977]

But ?

Even with 3 angle connectors at the mount, cant you still route the 3 wires to the same side ??

In the image below, you can see how far past the adhesive base of the GPS housing the cable goes when all three are lined up. So, it is an awkward situation as to how to position all three. With the center position as a straight, at lest the two outer position can angle in opposing directions.

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You should have started in the back pulling the strait plug thru the wire boot.

One would think I would have thought of that initially. 🙂 I had forgotten how small the tube was at the back of the hatchback, remembering only after all was pulled in. Two choices, pull it all out, or struggle to get the one end through the tube. I chose option 2. Frankly, it would have been saner to pull it all out and start over from the rear as you suggested.

 

[kamkar]

I was looking at Nigel's photo above and the system on the Right, and was thinking that Rightmost connector going off in its own direction could fit in front of the center connector ( where i have made red line )

But maybe it is something you need to feel to also see.

 

[lufa6977]

The S1 4K on the left is the same layout as one of mine, except I have a straight in the center for the rear camera. You are correct in that the 90-degree can all be moved to the front of the camera, or some combination thereof, but then we get back into the 'what looks tidy' issue. The switch you see on the left side of the S1 4K, is an on-off switch. Even with all three 90-degree angles facing forward and to the left, that switch is still accessible.

A possible change would require an update to the GPS housing. All three could be 90-degree connectors and plugged into the left or right vertical side of the GPS housing. The receptacle holes could be stair-stepped to get a clean cable run to the headliner. However, all cables would need to be on one side if we wanted a really tidy look to the wiring. Hanging two on the left side and one on the right side would make it look untidy.

Vueroid has an advantage in this in that all their wiring is to the GPS module. Other manufacturers use a combination of GPS and a dashcam body. I would rather pay to have the moulds for a GPS module recut and reorient/redesign the small GPS board, than redesign my mainboard, design a new GPS board, and cut new moulds for the body and GPS.

 

[jsmith]

My dashcams are usually mounted a few inches clear of the headliner so they can have a clear view around the sensor housing behind the rear view mirror, and I have plenty of frit area for them to be mounted on without being too noticeable from outside. They are however rather obvious from within the car.

View attachment 88204

From a practical point of view I like having all 3 cables plug into the mount on the S1, although I feel 3x right-angle plugs looks a bit untidy.

I think the A329S looks better with a pair of right-angle coax cables exiting the side of the main camera although that does make it more cumbersome to remove the camera - perhaps for cleaning the glass or to bring the camera inside for testing. I'm not so pleased with the appearance of the right-angle USB-C plug of the HK6 exiting the top of the GPS mount, however I appreciate that both cameras would look better if they were mounted at the top of the glass.

I remove the S1 4K on the right whenever I need to access the microSD card slots in either the A329S or the S1 4K, which has been a few times a week during testing, so I appreciate that it's quick and easy to do. Most owners will have a single dashcam and leave it in place for long periods of time, so I suspect ease of removal is less important for a regular user than a dashcam tester with side-by-side cameras.

@TonyM

@Vueroid needs to do better on cable management. That look is so cluttered. Couldn't they have done all one-side 90 degree angled mounted plugs like the Viofo?

What Vueroid is on the Left and Far Right?

You'd think this would be a better layout:

 

[kamkar]

I would be OK with this, CUZ mounted in my car in front of mirror, i would barely be able to see the entire dashcam, actually 2 dashcams can pretty much be back there and me not seeing much of them.
Maybe they could do a hybrid next time and do the inputs on the side of the mount + maybe have the plugs staggered from one and other so the wires off the angled plugs would come strait up.
Of course this might mean the mount would have to be a bit thicker, but that's hardly a problem.


Just throwing some balls in the air.

 

[jsmith]

I would be OK with this, CUZ mounted in my car in front of mirror, i would barely be able to see the entire dashcam, actually 2 dashcams can pretty much be back there and me not seeing much of them.
Maybe they could do a hybrid next time and do the inputs on the side of the mount + maybe have the plugs staggered from one and other so the wires off the angled plugs would come strait up.
Of course this might mean the mount would have to be a bit thicker, but that's hardly a problem.


Just throwing some balls in the air.

This would be a cleaner and less cluttered layout or @Vueroid :