Belial88
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I didn't realise until I read about it....
Maybe you should stop, and actually read the current articles on the matter and watch the video (the same video that's been out since day1, that I kept telling you to watch again) before making anti-american comments and bad generalizations.
That potentially changes things - if the driver or his wife saw a knife and thought (right or wrong) that it might be used against him or his family - or if he saw a knife used against the tyres, knowing it would immobilise the car and feared that the knife might then be used against them - then the law allows him to take more drastic action to defend himself and his family.
Actually, it really doesn't change things. If it was 1 or even a few people, it would. But like I said, 100 people with spoons is extremely dangerous. It doesn't take much for 100 people to be perceived as a threat and to respond. 100, menacing bikers? The second they come towards you is reason to defend yourself.
While the law is pretty ridiculous and often for the criminal rather than victim, you do NOT have to wait until to get your tires slashed or yourself mobbed. As soon as a reasonable person believes he/she or someone immediate is in danger of grave injury or death, they can react to defend themselves (and in most states, like NY, you have an obligation to retreat before using deadly force). 100 bikers mobbing your car is assault.
. You'll call me insane again but it could be the sun reflecting in the brake or he could really be braking. He rolled off the throttle because he's slowing down but the light goes on for a fraction of a second but he was already slowing down. If he used the front brakes too, you would see a dive on the motorcycle.
You're insane.
He's definitely braking. He definitely only starts to slow down once the brake light goes on. You do not necessarily have to see a dive in the bike when using the front brakes. All you need to do is lightly tap the front brakes to dramatically slow down, if you've ever driven a bike you'd know this.
by your logic, every time any car in the world braked, you'd see it dive. but you don't, because most of the time people don't slam their brakes. When people do slam their brakes, sure, you see a car dive.
Comments on articles from people, "If this was Texas you'd see how a 45 ACP would stop these bikers...." and other stuff like this. Paints a nice picture.
You're an idiot if you take internet comments from anywhere as a reflection of anything.
If the driver had a gun, he probably wouldn't have been beaten though, he would've bought himself 10 seconds when he had to stop his car, enough for bystanders and police to come to intervene and stop the situation. A gun really isn't enough to stop 100 bikers though, or even 5.
As for the defense, when I wrote my initial comment, no mention of knives or anything was mentioned. If he's really being attacked with knives, etc, then yes, he is entitled to defend himself. I stand corrected. Near impossible to see from the initial video when this came out though.
You can see his tires are blown out pretty clearly, that's why he had to stop. They also came at him with helmets, which are just as dangerous as knives. I don't see what knowing about knives being there or not, has any difference. You seem to underestimate how deadly a mob of 5, much less 100 big male bikers, actually is. It's a stampede.
There are people who saw this video, and knew from the start the SUV driver was in the right, and there are people who fail to grasp how self defense scenarios go down, and have to change their position after learning the facts that really are quite irrelevant (bikers having knives, if the first accident was the fault of the SUV or biker, etc).