BlackVue B-130X Test & Review PP

[zontarh]

I forgot to mention it will draw more than 8.5 amps while charging the battery as well as powering the camera at the same time.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

thanks for that but don’t understand the separate ignaitom relay? What’s the benefit of that and is that a custom install ?

The fundamental reason for NOT powering a 10 Amp device through a fuse box is safety. It’s the reason we have building safety codes, and entire licensed trades like electricians. 10 Amps is a lot of current that can generate a lot of heat in wiring. Generally speaking anyone with formal education, training, and experience in automotive repair & maintenance, or consumer electronics might agree running more than 1 Amp through a fuse box is not a good idea.

Back in the day it was generally accepted that adding any electrical accessory that draws more than 1 Amp of current must be wired on its own dedicated circuit either to a power distribution block, or directly to the vehicle starter battery. Think about auxiliary lighting like LED Light Bars. Those draw between 5-10 Amps, and they come with wiring harnesses that always connect directly to the vehicle starter battery.

Of course people have been installing dash cam battery packs through the fuse box for years, and I’ve never heard of a related catastrophic wiring disaster, (car fire) but in my opinion it’s unnecessarily flirting with danger.

 

[devil84]

Thank you, that’s very interesting. Is quite bad for these manufacturers then to suggest hardwiring into fuse box without relay if it’s a safety concern?

I will need to get a specialist to look at this me now if this is the case

 

[Chuck McCoy]

Thank you, that’s very interesting. Is quite bad for these manufacturers then to suggest hardwiring into fuse box without relay if it’s a safety concern?

It's understandable why they make this recommendation. They want their device to be as easy as possible to install. Running a wire to a fuse box in the passenger compartment is a lot easier than running a wire outside the passenger compartment, and under the hood directly to the battery. A proper install is not a big deal. It's basically like installing a car amplifier for an aftermarket audio system.

 

[devil84]

It's understandable why they make this recommendation. They want their device to be as easy as possible to install. Running a wire to a fuse box in the passenger compartment is a lot easier than running a wire outside the passenger compartment, and under the hood directly to the battery. A proper install is not a big deal. It's basically like installing a car amplifier for an aftermarket audio system.

funny you should say that, i had an an amp installed in my car. my car is a bmw and the battery is in the boot/trunk so that should make it a lot easier.

how much is the relay? i.e. how much additional costs in terms of material and where can i source from UK? what exactly would i need to buy?

thanks again for all your advice.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

funny you should say that, i had an an amp installed in my car. my car is a bmw and the battery is in the boot/trunk so that should make it a lot easier.

how much is the relay? i.e. how much additional costs in terms of material and where can i source from UK? what exactly would i need to buy?

thanks again for all your advice.

Google search "Automotive 12AWG Relay".
Here is an example.
They £22.62 for a pack of 5.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/B07V9M7FMH
Watch Robert's video for an explanation.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

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[matt7991]

I only have the B-130X, and the BBMC PowerCell 8.
The PC8 also does not have any "lag start up time".
Yes, you can either turn off the dash cam, or turn off the battery pack.
The B-130X & PC8 have their pros & cons.
What dash cam you're using might make a difference which one will work better for your application.
What dash cam do you have?

Hey @Panzer Platform , id like you're opinion here. I'm deciding between the bbmc powercell 8 and the b-130x. I have a 2ch a139 pro. I live in Canada so we do see a wide range of temperatures, including well below freezing. What would be your recommendation? I see I can get the pc8 refurbished for 288, or the b-130x for 327. Reliability is of course a big deal for me, and I heard the b-130x may have better cold weather reliability?

With that in mind, what's your recommendation? Thanks!

 

[Chuck McCoy]

opinion

Everyone knows what my opinion is worth, and where I can stick it. lol
The BBMC PC8 & BlackVue B-130X are 99% identical.
Technically the B-130X is slightly more “advanced” because it’s cold weather charge protection works better.

It can also accommodate 24 Volts systems if you have a commercial vehicle, or if you’re a tinkerer, and want to hook up a solar panel with raw power (no charge controller) because those can operate in the 24 Volt range.
I tried it with a 50 Watt panel and it did not have enough current, (you will need 100 Watt panel or bigger);
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/blackvue-b-130x-test-review-pp.48114/post-586771

The downside of the B-130X is no expansion port to link additional packs.
Another downside is the APP requires you to make an account just to access the B-130X settings, (this may have changed since I last tested it).
It all comes down to your specific use application.
Maybe @rcg530 @safedrivesolutions @BlackboxMyCar or @Vortex Radar can shed light on the things I missed.

I just remembered, since your in Canada I recommend the IROAD Power Pack Pro 12.
It has 153Wh capacity compared to 96Wh capacity of the PC8 & B-130X.

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Call Ben in Vancouver 1-604-299-7758, or Ted in Toronto 1-647-968-7233 to see what they say.
-Chuck

 

[Vortex Radar]

Yeah they're mostly the same battery. 🙂

Blackvue dashcams recently got an update to where now they can report battery capacity via the cloud which is kinda nifty.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

they can report battery capacity via the cloud

Guaranteed to be wildly inaccurate, correct? lol

 

[matt7991]

Everyone knows what my opinion is worth, and where I can stick it. lol
The BBMC PC8 & BlackVue B-130X are 99% identical.
Technically the B-130X is slightly more “advanced” because it’s cold weather charge protection works better.

It can also accommodate 24 Volts systems if you have a commercial vehicle, or if you’re a tinkerer, and want to hook up a solar panel with raw power (no charge controller) because those can operate in the 24 Volt range.
I tried it with a 50 Watt panel and it did not have enough current, (you will need 100 Watt panel or bigger);
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/blackvue-b-130x-test-review-pp.48114/post-586771

The downside of the B-130X is no expansion port to link additional packs.
Another downside is the APP requires you to make an account just to access the B-130X settings, (this may have changed since I last tested it).
It all comes down to your specific use application.
Maybe @rcg530 @safedrivesolutions @BlackboxMyCar or @Vortex Radar can shed light on the things I missed.

I just remembered, since your in Canada I recommend the IROAD Power Pack Pro 12.
It has 153Wh capacity compared to 96Wh capacity of the PC8 & B-130X.

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Dash Cam & Installation in Vancouver + Toronto, Safe Drive Solutions, Dashcam Specialists. We Help Drivers Provide Video Evidence.

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Call Ben in Vancouver 1-604-299-7758, or Ted in Toronto 1-647-968-7233 to see what they say.
-Chuck

For what it's worth, your opinion definitely matters! You're somewhat of an expert on here! I like the powerpack but it's definitely on the too pricy for me side unfortunately, otherwise I'd totally go for that. The reason I was looking at the pc8 and the b130x was the refurb pricing from bbmc, but I liked the b130x, even though the slightly higher price, more because of the thicker gauge wires.

I did shoot a message over to the guys at safe drive though so I'll see what they say!

Thanks again!

EDIT: Ted got back to me and that pricing definitely isn't going to work for me. What would your suggestion be, if any?

 

[Chuck McCoy]

expert

I’m only an expert at screwing things up. Lol

because of the thicker gauge wires

The B-130X only has 14AWG charge wire, and its tinned copper, or CCA copper clad aluminum.
I would leave it in the box and make your own charge cable with 12AWG 100% Pure OFC oxygen free copper.

What would your suggestion be

I would send an email to 70mai and ask them what’s taking so long to release their dash cam battery pack.
It’s supposed to be 100Wh, and only $150USD.
It was supposed to be released April 2024.

 

[GPak]

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EDIT: Ted got back to me and that pricing definitely isn't going to work for me. What would your suggestion be, if any?

If price is concern, consider the EcoFlow River 2, Power Station, 256Wh, new on Amazon for $168 with a 5-year warranty. It's a simple plug-and-play solution that requires minor cable work.
Details here:

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Since you live in Canada, the best option would be a DIY LTO battery, but it requires some DIY skills, details here:

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Before I start on LTO battery, I want to remind / let you know, that currently I am running two Viofo Mini2 Dash Cams, front and rear, using, off-the-shelf LFP based Power Station, which provides a lot more energy capacity and versatility for a lot less money compere to dedicated Dash-Cam...

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[matt7991]

I would send an email to 70mai and ask them what’s taking so long to release their dash cam battery pack.
It’s supposed to be 100Wh, and only $150USD.
It was supposed to be released April 2024

I did message 70mai and they said they are expecting to release in September, so we'll see about that. I may revisit the thread then lol

 

[misterzeh]

Je tiens à remercier @BlackVue de m'avoir envoyé la toute nouvelle batterie Power Magic Ultra B-130X pour test et évaluation. Ils m'ont même envoyé une DR900X Plus pour la tester. Le mois dernier, j'ai testé la BlackboxMyCar PowerCell 8 avec une capacité identique de 96 Wh, donc je l'ai sous la main pour comparer.

- Le B-130X remplace le B-124X (76,8 Wh).
- Le B-130X est doté d'un nouveau « circuit intégré de jauge de carburant » pour une estimation plus précise de la durée de vie de la batterie et du temps de charge. « Nous allons tester ça ! » (avec la voix de Project Farm). Mdr
- Le B-130X a supprimé le port d'extension utilisé pour connecter en série plusieurs packs de batteries afin d'augmenter l'autonomie en mode parking. Cette mesure a été prise pour minimiser l'augmentation du prix du B-130X car « très peu de gens finissent par l'utiliser ».
- L'ancien interrupteur à 3 positions (Cigarette | OFF | Hardwire) a été remplacé par un interrupteur ON/OFF. Le B-130X détectera automatiquement la méthode de charge utilisée (adaptateur allume-cigare 5 A / câble câblé 9 A) à l'aide d'un connecteur XT60 à 3 broches sur le CLA et d'un connecteur XT60 standard à 2 broches sur le câble câblé.
- Le PDSF est de 360 USD (c'est le prix pour Amazon, BBMC, les détaillants, etc.) Le site Web officiel de BlackVue sera de 390 USD.
- Le B-130X doit être utilisé avec la « nouvelle » application BlackVue (sortie le 06/12/22)
- Le numéro d'identification FCC est U8D-F1LS3222

Je n'ai le B-130X que depuis quelques heures, et après l'avoir déballé, il est livré avec les mêmes accessoires, câbles et connexions que le BBMC PC8. Cependant, avec une différence flagrante qui est comme une épine dans mon pied avec le BBMC PC8. Le câble de charge câblé inclus dans le B-130X est de 14AWG (par rapport au 16AWG inclus avec le BBMC PC8). C'était une pomme de discorde pour moi car j'ai découvert que sous la charge de charge complète de 9 ampères, le câble de charge câblé 16AWG du PC8 augmentait en température à des niveaux qui sont à mon avis « sacrément élevés ». Cela m'a conduit à recommander au BBMC PC8 de remplacer le câble de charge câblé 16AWG par un câble de taille 12AWG (la taille maximale pour le connecteur XT60).
Eh bien, il semble que BlackVue m'ait rencontré à mi-chemin en optant pour le 14AWG (je veux toujours le 12AWG cependant). mdr
[URL se dérouler="true"]https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/blackboxmycar-powercell-8-test-review.47956/post-583881[/URL]

J'ai hâte de tester la différence de température des deux câbles de charge de tailles différentes (14AWG contre 16AWG) à pleine puissance (9 ampères). Je n'ai qu'un misérable pistolet thermique laser à 20 $. Si seulement j'avais une caméra thermique sophistiquée pour obtenir une représentation plus précise de la génération de chaleur, indice-indice @rcg530. Mdr

Pour mon premier test d'autonomie de base, j'ai chargé le B-130X à 100 %.
J'ai ensuite mesuré la consommation électrique du DR900X Plus en mode d'enregistrement normal, Wi-Fi désactivé. À l'aide de mon alimentation variable Waptek et du multimètre Fluke 115, j'ai mesuré :
423 mAh à 12,6 volts = 5,3298 watts

J'ai connecté le DR900X Plus au B-130X à l'aide du CLA (le kit de câblage à 3 fils DR900X manquait dans la boîte, même si le manuel d'utilisation indique qu'il est inclus). =(
L'application BlackVue indique que la durée d'exécution estimée est de 18 heures 16 minutes.
Une fois ce test d'autonomie terminé, je mettrai le DR900X Plus en mode stationnement pour voir combien cela augmente l'autonomie.
-Mandrin

(Ceci est une traduction de Google. Je suis belge et ne parle pas anglais).
Bonjour, merci pour vos explications instructives. Mon matériel est le suivant : Vantrue Nexus 5 et Power Magic Ultra Battery B-130X. Je ferai installer le tout par un professionnel. Pour être sûr de bien comprendre, ces deux composants sont-ils corrects ?
Pour le relais : https://www.amazon.com.be/Gebildet-...75&mcid=90f16e7764ba3959802f62b6e24818b4&th=1
Pour le câble de connexion de la batterie : https://www.amazon.com.be/Nuofany-R...8c-b576-35736add69d5&pd_rd_i=B0B96G83MN&psc=1

Merci beaucoup pour votre aide.

 

[Chuck McCoy]

Yes, I recommend the 12AWG power wire instead of the included 14AWG power wire.
However, I would use the 4-Pin Relay, not the 5-Pin Relay.
And I would use a 15 Amp fuse in the Relay, not the included 30 Amp fuse.
If the 15 Amp fuse blows, then use a 20 Amp fuse.

 

[misterzeh]

Oui, je recommande le câble d'alimentation 12AWG au lieu du câble d'alimentation 14AWG inclus.
Cependant, j'utiliserais le relais à 4 broches, pas le relais à 5 broches.
Et j'utiliserais un fusible de 15 A dans le relais, pas le fusible de 30 A inclus.
Si le fusible de 15 A saute, utilisez un fusible de 20 A.

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Merci beaucoup, cela m'aidera beaucoup.
Une autre question si je peux me permettre, est-ce que ce câble [Output cable for dashcam (Cigarette lighter socket)] existe en version USB-C direct, si oui avez-vous la référence ?

 

[Chuck McCoy]

Merci beaucoup, cela m'aidera beaucoup.
Une autre question si je peux me permettre, est-ce que ce câble [Output cable for dashcam (Cigarette lighter socket)] existe en version USB-C direct, si oui avez-vous la référence ?

I’m not sure I understand.
If you will be using PARKING MODE you will need to use a 3-Wire Vantrue Hardwire Cable connected to the B-130X.

 

[misterzeh]

Je ne suis pas sûr de comprendre.
Si vous utilisez le MODE PARKING, vous devrez utiliser un câble Vantrue Hardwire à 3 fils connecté au B-130X.

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Je m'exprime mal, je vais essayer d'être plus clair. Le Vantrue s'alimente en USB-C sur le connecteur de la batterie via une prise allume cigare mâle/femelle.
J'aurais aimé éviter cette connexion allume cigare et avoir un câble de port USB-C côté Vantrue et le connecteur adapté côté batterie, une connexion directe en quelque sorte.