COVID-19 Coronavirus Thread

[jokiin]

Was courtesy of the Victorian Trades Hall Council

Victoria went through a really long lockdown recently, can see why they came up with that sign, they were all pretty over it by the time it ended

 

[Nigel]

Can't wait to see what Epsilon will be like. Wonder how long it will take to arrive?

Most people are wanting it to never arrive, while you can’t wait! 😵

If we get an Epsilon then it should be a lesser variant, Delta is too infectious to survive long term.

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Not the best of signs, 1.5m is very insufficient for delta, and it doesn’t make you feel sick since it infects the respiratory system, not the stomach.

 

[jokiin]

Most people are wanting it to never arrive, while you can’t wait! 😵

If we get an Epsilon then it should be a lesser variant, Delta is too infectious to survive long term.


Not the best of signs, 1.5m is very insufficient for delta, and it doesn’t make you feel sick since it infects the respiratory system, not the stomach.

It's not a sign produced by any government department

 

[Kremmen]

Knowing Boris it could be 🙂

 

[Dashmellow]

Most people are wanting it to never arrive, while you can’t wait! 😵

If we get an Epsilon then it should be a lesser variant, Delta is too infectious to survive long term.


Not the best of signs, 1.5m is very insufficient for delta, and it doesn’t make you feel sick since it infects the respiratory system, not the stomach.

As always, sarcasm is lost on you, NIgel. I have rarely ever encountered anyone who suffers from as severe a case of terminal humor impairment than you. I would suggest seeking treatment but you appear to be a hopeless case!

That would be confirmed by your reaction to the Australian trade union sign.

 

[Dashmellow]

What on earth is WRONG with these people? What on earth is WRONG with the GOP? What on earth is WRONG with Fox News?

The idea of not getting minors vaccinated not only against COVID but potentially ALL infectious childhood diseases is utterly unforgivable, amoral and murderous!

Tennessee abandons vaccine outreach to minors — not just for COVID-19

Tennessee halted all vaccine outreach to minors, not just for COVID-19, amid pressure from Republican lawmakers. A vaccine expert was also fired.

www.tennessean.com

 

[Nigel]

What on earth is WRONG with these people?

I see that Delta has arrived there, and they have a vaccination rate that it won’t notice!

 

[Dashmellow]

I see that Delta has arrived there, and they have a vaccination rate that it won’t notice!

The whole mindset seems suicidal. I just don't get it. Politics should have nothing to do with public heath issues, but that's the way it has been with COVID thanks to the GOP. For the most part it is the "red" states, especially the southeastern ones that have very low COVID vaccination rates along with certain other parts of the country. Aside from partisan political considerations in some areas there is an Evangelical religious component. Tennesse is at 43%, ahead of Alabama at 40% and Mississippi at 37%. States in dark green have the highest vaccination rates with the northeast with the highest vaccination numbers. I read today that Vermont is at 86% with some counties at 90% or greater.

Fascinating to see how well the vaccination rates match the political leanings of each state, including the most of the "purple" states.

 

[Nigel]

I read today that Vermont is at 86% with some counties at 90% or greater

South West England is at 90.6 % of adults with 1 dose of vaccine and even that is not stopping the Delta spreading fast. The vast majority of cases are in the unvaccinated or recently vaccinated. Full effect of vaccination takes about 4 months, not good for those rushing to get vaccinated because Delta has just arrived!

 

[Dashmellow]

Full effect of vaccination takes about 4 months, not good for those rushing to get vaccinated because Delta has just arrived!

Moderna states that you have full protection two weeks after your second or final dose. Pfizer states that: "One week after the second dose is administered, the vaccine will be 95 per cent effective in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 and severe outcomes related to it." (21 days after the first jab provides 52% effectiveness)

You must be referring to the AZ jab.

 

[Nigel]

You must be referring to the AZ jab.

UK data on Pfizer and AZ actual rollout and effect says they are roughly the same time scale and not much different in effectiveness by the time 4 months has passed, but it doesn’t show much agreement with the Pfizer or AZ testing which was generally giving the 2nd dose too early for best results.

 

[Dashmellow]

UK data on Pfizer and AZ actual rollout and effect says they are roughly the same time scale and not much different in effectiveness by the time 4 months has passed, but it doesn’t show much agreement with the Pfizer or AZ testing which was generally giving the 2nd dose too early for best results.

I'll stick with USA data and what my doctor and hospital tell me in regard to how long it takes for the vaccines to become fully effective, thanks. Fortunately, we don't have to concern ourselves with the AZ vaccine here.

Actually, according to data available here:

"AstraZeneca will be 76 per cent effective in protecting individuals from COVID-19 and its related symptoms 22-90 days after the first dose When the second dose is administered 12 weeks or more later, the vaccine then becomes 82 per cent effective in preventing COVID-19, with immunity building over time."

 

[Nigel]

Actually, according to data available here:

"AstraZeneca will be

Since USA still hasn’t approved AZ, you can’t have anything more than limited trial data!

I’ll stick to the UK data based on tens of millions of real vaccinations.

 

[Dashmellow]

Since USA still hasn’t approved AZ, you can’t have anything more than limited trial data!

I’ll stick to the UK data based on tens of millions of real vaccinations.

Don't fool yourself into thinking the US doesn't have full access to any international data it wants or needs. Remember, the AZ vaccine went through extensive testing here and it was in part funded by the U.S.

Assuming the information I posted is accurate and I have no reason to believe it isn't: - "AstraZeneca will be 76 per cent effective in protecting individuals from COVID-19 and its related symptoms 22-90 days after the first dose When the second dose is administered 12 weeks or more later, the vaccine then becomes 82 per cent effective in preventing COVID-19, with immunity building over time."

Then we have as much as 90 days plus 12 weeks which is four and a half months. That's in the same range you mentioned so what's your beef anyway? Under any circumstances that's way too long for the full effect compared to the Moderna and PB vaccines, especially considering how much more efficacious they are.

 

[kamkar]

If we Danes have it, our American friends will have it too, either cuz we give it to them, or as the useful fools i think we are preyed as, they just take what they want.

DK / US relations will have to be revisited if i was in charge.

 

[Kremmen]

I'm still finding it difficult to take in that infections here are rising very fast but hospitalisations and deaths remain very low, zero to both today :

Sample Uk postcode nearby :

UKHSA data dashboard

Showing public health data across England

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

 

[Nigel]

I'm still finding it difficult to take in that infections here are rising very fast but hospitalisations and deaths remain very low, zero to both today :

Sample Uk postcode nearby :

UKHSA data dashboard

Showing public health data across England

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

Nation wide, there are more hospitalisations and deaths, but it’s not clearly more than might be expected from the fact that with more positive tests it is more likely that someone run over by a bus will happen to have had a positive test in the last 28 days.

With 91+% having antibodies, for most UK people, delta is just a cold. Confirmed by Zoe finding that the most common symptoms of delta in the UK are cold symptoms. So a runny nose instead of a fever.

Zoe is also suggesting that cases of delta have peeked nation wide, and it is normally the first to see these things. Maybe the football didn’t cause significant spread! Many local authorities have now stopped rising, still plenty going up, and increasing numbers coming down.

Looking increasingly bad in Oz though. Not that many people have it yet but a lot of them of all ages are going into hospital, 1 in 40 cases in intensive care!

 

[kamkar]

numbers of infected here have gone up 2 - 3 X over the last few weeks, but these are people that most often do not need to go to hospital.
A study i read about today said 1233 people fully vaccinated had tested positive, but of course other than passing it on no problem.

 

[Nigel]

A study i read about today said 1233 people fully vaccinated had tested positive, but of course other than passing it on no problem

Did they pass it on? Not heard good data on that.

Of course your antibodies can’t do their job until you have some virus in you, in which case some of the tests can test positive. With the delta, apparently it can bypass your initial defences, so positive tests are more likely than with normal viruses.

 

[kamkar]

No but i assume the risk is there as the only negative thing, this is 0.08% of all fully vaccinated people.

The football matches here, feared to be super spreader events, well that was not the case.
Also churches wonder why they can not be open when bars can, and venues wonder why they cant do a concert or a small weekend festival when they can cram people into a soccer stadium like that.

I must admit things like that do also make me think how much this have to do with that damn virus, it look more and more like power grabs to me.
For sure it have done absolutely nothing good for my already massive distrust in the elected people here.

About 80% here is now Delta.