Mobius Mini and supercap? Anyone tried it before? DON'T have to anymore, it WORKS!!

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the Maxi has a capacitor built in....?
It can accept a super-capacitor and I think they sell them with one already installed but for some odd reason Mobius refuses to ship individual super-caps, claiming it is against "regulations", which it isn't. Other companies ship individual loose super-caps all the time.

Edit: Here in the US only the really large size super-caps are under postal regulation. They must be shipped in a state of discharge and I think the contacts need to be isolated and covered.
 

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I don't have a Maxi (yet, but you know where this is going...), but I was under the impression it was like with the Mobius 1, buy one with battery or supercap. Actually I bought battery and supercap seperately afterwards too... from eletoponline I believe.
 

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I wonder if it also records the same way when no supercap is connected. After all we only need it to save the file and date/time. If you dont need date/time, and the Mini saves every file instantly while recording, then you don't even need supercaps...
The Mini will need a power source to close the current file properly when you turn off the external power, either a battery or a capacitor. Without either of these, it will simply turn off immediately without saving the file
 
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ok, thanks. caps stay on then.... :(
 

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I don't have a Maxi (yet, but you know where this is going...), but I was under the impression it was like with the Mobius 1, buy one with battery or supercap. Actually I bought battery and supercap seperately afterwards too... from eletoponline I believe.
The Mobius 1 super-caps were and are highly available from many sources, not so with the Maxi
 
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The Mobius 1 super-caps were and are highly available from many sources, not so with the Maxi
I guess it's not the same then? i.e. supercap for the 1 does not fit the Maxi?
 

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I guess it's not the same then? i.e. supercap for the 1 does not fit the Maxi?
It's a different plug, not that that would stop you from your DIY project.

The Maxi capacitor comprises 4No 'cells' vs 2No in the Mobius 1 & 2. I understand it's a higher capacity since the Maxi has a higher power requirement.
 
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No, the one for the Maxi has greater capacity and is larger. I believe is has 3 caps in the module. @TonyM can describe it.
but if you have a sc for the 1, could it work on the maxi? Even with lesser capacity?
 
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right... Webbex, forgot all about them..
 

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Mobius refuses to ship individual super-caps, claiming it is against "regulations", which it isn't. Other companies ship individual loose super-caps all the time.
some carriers in China won't take them as they think it's a type of battery, they don't understand the difference and refuse to pickup, have come across this same issue also
 

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some carriers in China won't take them as they think it's a type of battery, they don't understand the difference and refuse to pickup, have come across this same issue also
I see; I wasn't aware of that. I've ordered individual super-capacitors from China several times with no problems and I see dozens of Chinese companies selling them on eBay and elsewhere so I've assumed it must be acceptable to ship them.
And as I mentioned above, if they are discharged they are essentially inert, but I guess not everyone is familiar with how they function.
 

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I even had DHL refusing to pickup our stock once as the driver thought they were batteries, had to get our local DHL office to call China and set them straight
 
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Idea's, tips? 6.5mm thickness sounds ok.....? Battery seems around that thickness also....

The new 4 cell Maxi super-capacitor module appears to be made from the same super-caps as the two cell Mobius 1 module. It shouldn't be too difficult to combine the cells in series from two Mobius 1 super-cap modules into a single one for use on your Mini.
 
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Yeah I have that exactly now... check the pictures. But it's too thick for the Mini's housing .... 8.5 mm don't fit, the round flats surely fit, the point is, can I just solder the cable with connector on the the + and - and connect.....?!?
 
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It's really hard to see that in your photos.

Those button cell caps on Aliexpress are the first and only coin cell type super-caps I've seen that have that capacity. Back when I was experimenting with super-capacitors I looked everywhere but every button cell cap I found that would fit was under-powered. At that price these certainly seem worth a try.
 

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