The story about me on RC Groups was because Tom wants only forum specific discussions about Aerial Photography. He wasn't interested to help developing the camera, but to make it good for AP users only because the discussions are into an RC forum.
From the start of this thread I don't understand one thing:
why a rectangular shaped camera which have the lens on the smallest side must to be an Mobius copy or rival or clone?
The actual form factor of Mobius evolved from the 808 shape, and the idea was starting from the users request to have flat bottom. When Mobius launched somebody said it is a 808 clone just because the lens is on the smallest site of the rectangle?
This story about clones is old. Take a pencil and draw a rectangle with round corners. Name it smartphone. When asking people what you drawed, they will tell you that your drawing is an iPhone or a Samsung depending of how much the corners were rounded. Almost all people are asking me if my smartphone is a Samsung. And this is because it is white (not Samsung invented the white phone) and because is a square with round corners.
Now take a pencil, draw a rectangular shaped camera with round corners and lens on the smaller side and tell me it is not a Mobius clone.
Any action camera can be compared with Mobius or Innovv and any of them can be a rival. So we can compare with Mobius also other cameras form factors.
I don't think Innovv or Dimika were invented as a copy of Mobius. I will not copy a camera which doesn't have strong marketing and advertising, is like copying nobody. If you will exclude RC Groups and an ebay store Mobius is nothing. This not means I don't like the Mobius, or not to be a great camera. I like it, have a great development support even to slow for my taste, and have good sales even without publicity. I am sure Innovv, Dimika, or any other dashcam want to have at least the Mobius sales.
And the chinese Mobius team should not forget that they are here now only because listening the people from the other part of the world, with another vision, expectations than normal chinese people. Without "the others" that team could be still selling some obscure low quality keychain camera. The chinese principles are not going in the way was going Mobius, but remain in the chinese typical battle about: how to start the war prices, to clone some well known brand just because they can't create, how to sell with any price and don't care about customers after sales. I call this type of sales as "Hit & run sales".
enjoy,
Mtz