Has anyone tried the Type S S403 dash cam (4k60FPS)?

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I did a quick search but didn't find anything on this forum relating to the brand or the dash cam specifically. Reddit has 1 post about the brand but not about this specific dash cam.

typesauto.com

TYPE S S403 4K UHD Dashcam with 60 FPS Recording

The TYPE S S403 is our best and most advanced dashcam yet. This amazing car camera not only captures more of the road at stunning 4K Ultra High-Definition resolution, but also does it at 60 frames per second, allowing the footage to be extremely smooth even at high speed. Record your drives with...
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/B0BDLDZ1R9
The Type S website shows 22.86 lbs as the dash cam weight. Not sure where they are pulling that value from (or if they made an error in the conversion from grams) but it's clear they don't want to give any spec's that would help identify if this is a Chinese knockoff. The Amazon "Vine" reviews only screams no one wants to bother with a no-name branded dash cam for $300 USD too. It's been available for purchase on Amazon since August 19, 2022 so that's not all too comforting regardless of Amazon's horrible paid/fake review reputation.

I was looking for 4k 60 FPS dash cams and saw this dash cam as a search result.
 
Witch said:
I did a quick search but didn't find anything on this forum relating to the brand or the dash cam specifically. Reddit has 1 post about the brand but not about this specific dash cam.

typesauto.com

TYPE S S403 4K UHD Dashcam with 60 FPS Recording

The TYPE S S403 is our best and most advanced dashcam yet. This amazing car camera not only captures more of the road at stunning 4K Ultra High-Definition resolution, but also does it at 60 frames per second, allowing the footage to be extremely smooth even at high speed. Record your drives with...
typesauto.com typesauto.com

https://www.amazon.com/gp/B0BDLDZ1R9
The Type S website shows 22.86 lbs as the dash cam weight. Not sure where they are pulling that value from (or if they made an error in the conversion from grams) but it's clear they don't want to give any spec's that would help identify if this is a Chinese knockoff. The Amazon "Vine" reviews only screams no one wants to bother with a no-name branded dash cam for $300 USD too. It's been available for purchase on Amazon since August 19, 2022 so that's not all too comforting regardless of Amazon's horrible paid/fake review reputation.

I was looking for 4k 60 FPS dash cams and saw this dash cam as a search result.
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I don't believe anyone here has had any experience with this dashcam, as it absolutely looks like a fake 4k device. Number of typos hence the weight stated of 22lbs, also "3M WHB" tape doesn't exist, it's 3M VHB. And no one is doing 4k @ 60fps video on dash cams! Interpolated 4k so obviously a sensor that isn't capable of 4k, but the video just blown up to be "4k"
 
Yep
support on these probably slim to none, outside of send it back to Amazon and get a new one.

Mentioning a camera can do 4K interpolated is like selling a car with emphasis on " the speedo go to 200 MPH "
 
kamkar said:
Yep
support on these probably slim to none, outside of send it back to Amazon and get a new one.

Mentioning a camera can do 4K interpolated is like selling a car with emphasis on " the speedo go to 200 MPH "
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The speedo can go to 200mph, can we at least dream that it can get to that speed? 😛
 
I dont even think we should go there in our dreams.
No road here with that fast of a speed limit, and even if there was, one should ask one self " am i really in that much of a hurry i need to drive these speeds "

The motorway speed limit here is 130 kmh but most times i go along doing 110 - 120 kmh, but other slower places i am on the limit just fine

Also here in this primitive little country, we dont even have track days or almost any places that could be called a place for motorsports, and for sure no place that would be able to host a F1 race CUZ the tracks here are pretty much glorified gocart tracks.
So kids here into cars ASO, well forced to break the law

How the hell we have a guy driving F1 is a mystery, he sure as well have not paid his way there, no Dane ever had, if you are into stuff like that you better get the hell out of here and find some real competition.
There is another Dane from F2 wanting to get into F1, but i have no idea if he will make it, seem to be a ok driver, but that is not all it take.
 
Agie said:
The speedo can go to 200mph, can we at least dream that it can get to that speed? 😛
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I would like to BUY this Speedo.
Then I can beat some of Michael Phelps' records.
$ PROFIT. $
 
IIRC I saw them at SEMA last year. Maybe the year before? Doing a little digging on their website and the user manual, all I could find is that it uses an 8MP sensor. No make or model. I tried chatting with them on their website and the product expert couldn't/wouldn't disclose which sensor they use which is odd.

I also didn't see any mention of a 4K30 option with HDR. The website lists WDR, but no HDR.
 
Vortex Radar said:
all I could find is that it uses an 8MP sensor.
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Must be at least 12MP at 16:9, which is an unusual resolution, otherwise they would be interpolating the photos:
Max Photo Resolution:12M (4608*2592)

More surprising, they are using a UK mains fuse for it, or do some electric vehicles run on 250V these days?

Fuse Rating: 250V 2A
 
Looks like Newegg has it too, but it costs about $230 MORE there for some reason...
 
Hello I have the S402 and they are 100% just interpolating the feed. I literally found this forum trying to Google why my **** doesn't look 4K thought I was formatting it incorrectly or something. But after that initial reply explaining interpolating it clicked that's def what they are doing. I'll try to attach what my video looks like. Idk if this forum compresses but I am uploading the original "4K" video typeS advertises. The dashcam is in no way bad I actually love it but they are falsely advertising 4K. The video is likely truly 2k or something.
 
Agie said:
I don't believe anyone here has had any experience with this dashcam, as it absolutely looks like a fake 4k device. Number of typos hence the weight stated of 22lbs, also "3M WHB" tape doesn't exist, it's 3M VHB. And no one is doing 4k @ 60fps video on dash cams! Interpolated 4k so obviously a sensor that isn't capable of 4k, but the video just blown up to be "4k"
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Hello, this is the manufacturer. Wish we'd have seen this post earlier.
A few things to clarify:
- The weight typo has since been corrected, but thanks for noticing the VHB error, we'll get it corrected. The other errors look like something got mixed up when importing data from old website. The fuse rating is from some other backup camera product of ours.
- S403 4K 60FPS dash cam - While we do have other models that's interpolated, the S403 is not. 8MP sensor, real 4K, real 60FPS. demo video:
. (please make sure you set it to 4K 60FPS on YouTube though.)
- You're also always welcomed to purchase and try it, Amazon does allow free return if you end up not satisfied with the quality.
- Something to note: The camera does sometimes overheat especially during summer, when it's running at 4K 60FPS. When it happens, it'll automatically drop the frame rate to cool down.
- Yes, this camera does come with HDR and WDR.
- S402 mentioned by another user here IS a 5MP interpolated camera, but S403 is not. Not sure why they're being compared... not even the same form factor.
 
andlmky said:
Hello, this is the manufacturer. Wish we'd have seen this post earlier.
A few things to clarify:
- The weight typo has since been corrected, but thanks for noticing the VHB error, we'll get it corrected. The other errors look like something got mixed up when importing data from old website. The fuse rating is from some other backup camera product of ours.
- S403 4K 60FPS dash cam - While we do have other models that's interpolated, the S403 is not. 8MP sensor, real 4K, real 60FPS. demo video:
. (please make sure you set it to 4K 60FPS on YouTube though.)
- You're also always welcomed to purchase and try it, Amazon does allow free return if you end up not satisfied with the quality.
- Something to note: The camera does sometimes overheat especially during summer, when it's running at 4K 60FPS. When it happens, it'll automatically drop the frame rate to cool down.
- Yes, this camera does come with HDR and WDR.
- S402 mentioned by another user here IS a 5MP interpolated camera, but S403 is not. Not sure why they're being compared... not even the same form factor.
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Thoughts @rcg530 @Panzer Platform @Nigel ?

Still not convinced myself..
 
Not sure what’s there to convince.
YouTube verifies the resolution and frame rate of uploaded files during processing. If the video wasn’t truly 4K 60fps, YouTube wouldn’t allow it to be labeled or played at that quality. The footage is exactly what was captured with our dash cam.

Of course, if you suspect us of faking the video file, you’re welcomed to purchase one from Amazon and see for yourself, or even rip it open to verify the 8M sensor.

We are however still working on improving the heat issue when running 4K60fps.
 
andlmky said:
Hello, this is the manufacturer. Wish we'd have seen this post earlier.
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@DashCamMan Can you update @andlmky with manufacturer rank?
Hello @andlmky welcome to the club.

1.) What is the FCC ID# for the S403?
The FCC ID# is missing from the user manual, (see attached screenshots).
The FCC ID# can be found;
a.) On camera
b.) In user manual
c.) On packaging box

2.) Is this the correct user manual for the S403?
Model Number: BT533206-1

3.) Does the S403 use a lithium battery or super capacitor?
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andlmky said:
Not sure what’s there to convince.
YouTube verifies the resolution and frame rate of uploaded files during processing. If the video wasn’t truly 4K 60fps, YouTube wouldn’t allow it to be labeled or played at that quality. The footage is exactly what was captured with our dash cam.

Of course, if you suspect us of faking the video file, you’re welcomed to purchase one from Amazon and see for yourself, or even rip it open to verify the 8M sensor.

We are however still working on improving the heat issue when running 4K60fps.
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I wanted their opinion on matters first. Yes indeed the IMX415 is a 8MP true 4k sensor.

Not willing to purchase one from Amazon as there are numerous Starvis 2 sensor solutions on the market now, with better plate reads at night.

More 4k60 cameras are apparently coming next year with Starvis 2 sensors.
 
Panzer Platform said:
@DashCamMan Can you update @andlmky with manufacturer rank?
Hello @andlmky welcome to the club.

1.) What is the FCC ID# for the S403?
The FCC ID# is missing from the user manual, (see attached screenshots).
The FCC ID# can be found;
a.) On camera
b.) In user manual
c.) On packaging box

2.) Is this the correct user manual for the S403?
Model Number: BT533206-1

3.) Does the S403 use a lithium battery or super capacitor?
See attached screenshot.
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1) FCC ID# is WUI-BT58189,
2) Yes. And before you say anything, it has a lot to be improved lol.
3) Super cap.
 
Agie said:
Thoughts @rcg530 @Panzer Platform @Nigel ?

Still not convinced myself..
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Well, the video that @andlmky has posted does appear to be 60fps, however every other frame is a duplicate of the previous, so really there are only 30 different frames per second. What you would get if you took a 30fps video and converted it to 60fps in a video editor.

andlmky said:
Hello and thank you. The image sensor = Sony IMX415, HDR available at 60fps.
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When people talk about HDR in dashcams, they normally mean multiple exposures combined into one frame in order to get a larger dynamic range.

The IMX415 is not capable of multi-exposure HDR at 60fps.

Some people do use the term HDR to mean other things, so maybe you should clarify what you mean by HDR, and what the difference is to WDR?

Looking at the performance of the dashcam as you go under the bridges in the video you posted, I would not count that as HDR, or WDR.

It doesn't really look like video from a Sony IMX415 image sensor either, I certainly would never have guessed that is what it was recorded on!
 
Nigel said:
Well, the video that @andlmky has posted does appear to be 60fps, however every other frame is a duplicate of the previous, so really there are only 30 different frames per second. What you would get if you took a 30fps video and converted it to 60fps in a video editor.


When people talk about HDR in dashcams, they normally mean multiple exposures combined into one frame in order to get a larger dynamic range.

The IMX415 is not capable of multi-exposure HDR at 60fps.

Some people do use the term HDR to mean other things, so maybe you should clarify what you mean by HDR, and what the difference is to WDR?

Looking at the performance of the dashcam as you go under the bridges in the video you posted, I would not count that as HDR, or WDR.

It doesn't really look like video from a Sony IMX415 image sensor either, I certainly would never have guessed that is what it was recorded on!
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Thank you for your input it all seemed a bit dubious to me but I could of course be wrong. Totally up to whether @rcg530 wants to throw his hat in the ring with a bit of analysis of the sample footage, but I suspect it's not all it's cracked out to be.

Despite our differing opinions here on DCT with us members, we do at the end of the day want honesty and transparency, and what's best for the consumer. Hope we can get to the bottom and verify the claims made by the manufacturer.
 
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