BP-100 HK vs HK6 (No Cut-Off Version)

ZUMA351 said:
Does HK6 with no cutoff version display the voltage on the recordings from the dashcam? I just got one and the voltage display is gone.
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Not all Viofo models have a voltage stamp. The voltage stamp can also be disabled in the dash cam menu.
 
ZUMA351 said:
Does HK6 with no cutoff version display the voltage on the recordings from the dashcam? I just got one and the voltage display is gone.
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I just checked.
What camera are you using?
Perform factory reset / default settings, and try again.

 

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Chuck McCoy said:
I just checked.
What camera are you using?
Perform factory reset / default settings, and try again.

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I have a A329S. I had the regular HK6 and it displayed the voltage no problem. When I switched to the HK6 with no voltage cutoff the voltage display is gone. And I just noticed today that I canā€™t set the voltage cut off for the hybrid parking mode says I donā€™t have a hardwired kit but I have the HK6 with no cutoff installed. Iā€™ll try the factory reset and see if that fixes it
 
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@ZUMA351 said:
I have a A329S. I had the regular HK6 and it displayed the voltage no problem.
When I switched to the HK6 with no voltage cutoff the voltage display is gone.
And I just noticed today that I canā€™t set the voltage cut off for the hybrid parking mode says I donā€™t have a hardwired kit but I have the HK6 with no cutoff installed.
Iā€™ll try the factory reset and see if that fixes it.
@Chuck McCoy said:
If we were classmates you would be in so much trouble for not RTFM šŸ¤£
See page 5 of HK6 User Manual;
 

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Chuck McCoy said:
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@ZUMA351 said:
I have a A329S. I had the regular HK6 and it displayed the voltage no problem.
When I switched to the HK6 with no voltage cutoff the voltage display is gone.
And I just noticed today that I canā€™t set the voltage cut off for the hybrid parking mode says I donā€™t have a hardwired kit but I have the HK6 with no cutoff installed.
Iā€™ll try the factory reset and see if that fixes it.
@Chuck McCoy said:
If we were classmates you would be in so much trouble for not RTFM šŸ¤£
See page 5 of HK6 User Manual;
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Well the new HK6 didnā€™t come with a manual, Iā€™ll use that as my excuse šŸ˜¬šŸ¤£. Youā€™re good šŸ˜‚
 
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VIOFO-Support said:
We will release the V2.0 firmware via OTA update with new app soon.

This new feature will be implemented in V2.1 version.
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Hi

I'm a bit confused?
Is version 2.1 actually available now?
On Google it says version 2.0 is the latest
 
So i need some advice on my potential set up
I have the VIOFO A329s bundle with the three channels filter and HK6 wire kit.
I want to get it professional installed and i have a person for this but i am debating on whether the battery will be able to do what i want.
Because my car is a 2016 toyota prius plus hybrid. I cant drop the voltage to below 12.4. So if i want to utilise parking mores like low bit rate and hybrid parking i cant really do that because the first cut off will be 12.4 and then i assume it will go into to low power impact and the next cut off from the switch is 12.2v. (online is says that 12.2 could be slightly risky in the car not starting).
Even if it does start i cant imagine my parking mode recording will be any more than a hour or so.

So that comes to my point of VIOFO BP100 battery. If i get this installed, (hardwired way) is there a way i can set the dashcam to go into hybrid parking more when there is like 20 percent battery life left on the BP100.
I dont want the low bit rate recording to completely kill the battery and then i dont get the hybrid parking protection.
I am hoping this is possible somehow. I dont want to set a timer cut off because i want it to record low bit rate to whatever the battery can do till it reaches a certain level. (if that makes sense).

So is this possible?
 
Nigel said:
The advantage over a timer is that if you make short journeys, then your battery may not be 100% charged when you park, which means that every time you park, you need to check your battery SoC and set your timer appropriately. With the HK6, you just set it once to switch to low power parking mode when the battery gets low and then forget about it, then you will always have at least low power parking protection, while with the timer, you will sometimes run out of battery power and have zero protection.

I imagine that a most people do not 100% charge their battery on every drive, so the HK6 is the better option?

It would be even better, if the BP-100 reported SoC to the dashcam, instead of having to use voltage. Voltage is a bit inconsistent, especially in very cold weather.
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Yes but what is considered low to you?
What is the battery percentage minimum the battery can go to before you want to enter hybrid parking m
That's the question
 
rcg530 said:
Using the BP100 supplied dash camera power cable will give you all of the parking modes available in the A329S. The one thing it won't do is provide the voltage level being output by the BP100 like the HK6 would provide. The HK6 uses Bluetooth to broadcast the input voltage level observed by the HK6 to the dash camera. The A329S can present that voltage level in the video status line and it can use that voltage info for the "Vehicle Battery Protection" feature for the "Cutoff Voltage" feature. No using the HK6, you will still have hybrid parking mode available to you, but you can only use the "Cutoff Timer" feature to switch from AED,Time-Lapse,Low Bitrate to LPID parking mode.

If you obtain an HK6 with a setting for no low voltage cutoff, that will allow you to take advantage of the largest amount of the stored charge in the BP100 [like the 12V power cable supplied with the BP100]. The HK6 will broadcast the voltage level provided by the BP100 to the A329S and you can then take advantage of the "Cutoff Voltage" feature in the A329S in addition to the "Cutoff Timer" feature. The installer will need to splice the hardwire cable [the cable with just 3-wires] provided with the BP100 with the wires from the HK6 so it can plug directly into the BP100 dash camera output power port.
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OK so can you explain something. If you purchase the hk6 with no cut off for example,
When would it decide to go into hybrid parking?
If there is no voltage cut off won't it just continue recording until the battery is dead and that's it.

I still don't get the rationale of setting "no voltage".
Isn't it the same as using the battery pack wire
 
joysleep said:
OK so can you explain something. If you purchase the hk6 with no cut off for example,
When would it decide to go into hybrid parking?
If there is no voltage cut off won't it just continue recording until the battery is dead and that's it.

I still don't get the rationale of setting "no voltage".
Isn't it the same as using the battery pack wire
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The dash camera doesn't decide to go into hybrid parking mode, that's a user choice in the dash camera parking mode settings.

With hybrid parking mode selected and when vehicle/battery pack accessory power is turned off, the dash camera will begin operating in Auto Event Detection [AED], Time-Lapse, or Low Bitrate parking mode until any of the "Cut-off Timer", "Cut-off Voltage", or "Cut-off Battery Percentage" [starting with firmware v2.1_260702] features have met their monitoring condition [time, HK6 Bluetooth published voltage, or VIOFO battery pack published charge percentage]. When any one of those cut-off monitoring checks have detected a parking mode transition is necessary, the dash camera switches from AED/Time-Lapse/Low Bitrate to Low Power Impact Detection [LPID] parking mode.

You can use the "Cut-off Timer" setting when the dash camera is powered by the HK4, HK6, or the VIOFO battery pack dash camera power cable.
You can use the "Cut-off Voltage" setting when the dash camera is powered by a HK6.
You can use the "Cut-Off Battery Percentage" when the dash camera is powered by a VIOFO battery pack [BP100 for example] and the A329S/T/WW/TC firmware is v2.1_260702 or later

The HK4 and the HK6 hardwire kits have their own low voltage cut-off feature. As you mentioned there is a modified version of the HK4 or HK6 that replaces the 12.4V low voltage cut-off setting on the hardwire kit module making it operate with the low voltage cut-off feature being disabled. The hardwire kit's low voltage cut-off feature is intended to be the thing protecting your vehicle's battery [when it obtains power directly from the vehicle].

When the dash camera's parking mode is set to "Hybrid Parking Mode", the dash camera's "Cut-off Voltage" setting will be the voltage level that the dash camera will transition to LPID parking mode. When the dash camera's parking mode is set to AED, Time-Lapse, or Low Bitrate [not via the Hybrid Parking Mode selection], the "Cut-off Voltage" setting will result in the dash camera powering off instead of switching to LPID parking mode. See pages 49-52 of the A329S user manual for a chart for those settings.

You'll notice the A329S "Cut-off Voltage" setting options are very limited [12.4V/24.8V; 12.2V/24.4V; 12.0V/24.0V] since that feature is primarily meant to be used with a hybrid parking mode configuration and it being the voltage level to transition to LPID parking mode.

If you're powering your dash camera with a dash camera battery pack, there's no direct/real need to have the hardwire kit's low-voltage cut-off feature functional. The lowest voltage level the HK4/HK6 hardwire kits low voltage cut-off feature can be set to is 11.8V. A dash camera battery pack can safely provide power into the low 10V range. Setting a modified HK4/HK6 to 12.4V via the slide switch on the hardwire kit, that disables the low voltage cut-off feature allowing the dash camera to get additional parking mode runtime [11.8V down to low 10V range].

I hope that helps.
 
rcg530 said:
The dash camera doesn't decide to go into hybrid parking mode, that's a user choice in the dash camera parking mode settings.

With hybrid parking mode selected and when vehicle/battery pack accessory power is turned off, the dash camera will begin operating in Auto Event Detection [AED], Time-Lapse, or Low Bitrate parking mode until any of the "Cut-off Timer", "Cut-off Voltage", or "Cut-off Battery Percentage" [starting with firmware v2.1_260702] features have met their monitoring condition [time, HK6 Bluetooth published voltage, or VIOFO battery pack published charge percentage]. When any one of those cut-off monitoring checks have detected a parking mode transition is necessary, the dash camera switches from AED/Time-Lapse/Low Bitrate to Low Power Impact Detection [LPID] parking mode.

You can use the "Cut-off Timer" setting when the dash camera is powered by the HK4, HK6, or the VIOFO battery pack dash camera power cable.
You can use the "Cut-off Voltage" setting when the dash camera is powered by a HK6.
You can use the "Cut-Off Battery Percentage" when the dash camera is powered by a VIOFO battery pack [BP100 for example] and the A329S/T/WW/TC firmware is v2.1_260702 or later

The HK4 and the HK6 hardwire kits have their own low voltage cut-off feature. As you mentioned there is a modified version of the HK4 or HK6 that replaces the 12.4V low voltage cut-off setting on the hardwire kit module making it operate with the low voltage cut-off feature being disabled. The hardwire kit's low voltage cut-off feature is intended to be the thing protecting your vehicle's battery [when it obtains power directly from the vehicle].

When the dash camera's parking mode is set to "Hybrid Parking Mode", the dash camera's "Cut-off Voltage" setting will be the voltage level that the dash camera will transition to LPID parking mode. When the dash camera's parking mode is set to AED, Time-Lapse, or Low Bitrate [not via the Hybrid Parking Mode selection], the "Cut-off Voltage" setting will result in the dash camera powering off instead of switching to LPID parking mode. See pages 49-52 of the A329S user manual for a chart for those settings.

You'll notice the A329S "Cut-off Voltage" setting options are very limited [12.4V/24.8V; 12.2V/24.4V; 12.0V/24.0V] since that feature is primarily meant to be used with a hybrid parking mode configuration and it being the voltage level to transition to LPID parking mode.

If you're powering your dash camera with a dash camera battery pack, there's no direct/real need to have the hardwire kit's low-voltage cut-off feature functional. The lowest voltage level the HK4/HK6 hardwire kits low voltage cut-off feature can be set to is 11.8V. A dash camera battery pack can safely provide power into the low 10V range. Setting a modified HK4/HK6 to 12.4V via the slide switch on the hardwire kit, that disables the low voltage cut-off feature allowing the dash camera to get additional parking mode runtime [11.8V down to low 10V range].

I hope that helps.
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Right OK I think that makes sense.

Problem with setting the battery percentage option is that you then lose access to your battery pack portal on your phone which wasn't helpful. See my other post explaining this.
I did like an hour testing in my car yesterday evening

I wanted to see if the no cut off voltage hk6 will have an equivalent feature to supposed 15 percent option of battery life.

But I guess voltage and battery life percentage isn't a simple correlation is it?

Is there a hardwire kit for example that I can set my low voltage cut off to let's say 11v?
Now is there a way to convert what 11v on the battery pack will mean in terms of how much battery life percentage is left on the actual BBC battery pack?

Or even 10v for example. What would 10v mean in terms of battery life on the pack?
 
No VIOFO hardwire kit has an 11V low voltage cut-off setting. The BP100 provided dash camera power cable has no low voltage cut-off feature so you can use the entire capacity of the BP100 battery pack.

The BP100 at 10V is at a 0% charge level.
 
rcg530 said:
No VIOFO hardwire kit has an 11V low voltage cut-off setting. The BP100 provided dash camera power cable has no low voltage cut-off feature so you can use the entire capacity of the BP100 battery pack.

The BP100 at 10V is at a 0% charge level.
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OK so what's the approximate battery life on the pack when it reaches to 11.8v? (assuming you have the no voltage cut off hardware kit)
 
Last July, I did some battery pack discharge tests with the BP100.

The VIOFO Battery app showed a charge percentage of 4% when the output voltage level was 11.8V. The app showed a 4% charge level from 12.14V down to 11.63V.

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rcg530 said:
Last July, I did some battery pack discharge tests with the BP100.

The VIOFO Battery app showed a charge percentage of 4% when the output voltage level was 11.8V. The app showed a 4% charge level from 12.14V down to 11.63V.

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Right OK so that proves you can't really estimate the battery percentage life itself to the exact voltage.
The voltage has a varied reading.
OK that puts that to bed for me.
I wanted a hardwire kit to be equivalent to around 20 percent battery life but you just can't do that exactly with voltage.

I'm hoping viofo fix the issue where both the phone and the dashcam can be used with the battery pack.

Thanks for being patient with me and answering my questions. Top guy.

Can I just ask, have you tested the approximate hours you get with a three channel low bit rate recording with the battery pack fully charged . 2k vs 4k?

With that can you work out what it would be if it was down to two channels?
 
If you look in my BP100 testing thread, the first post has a timed discharge test powering an A139 Pro 3CH in low bitrate parking mode for 11 hours 26 minutes.

I didn't test a 2K dash camera nor a 2-channel dash camera.

rcg530

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