Here's the dashcam I want

[jokiin]

1936 Toyota AA sedan
Of course, that was before the war.

see they didn't make too many, almost coach builders rather than a car factory back then, how times change

 

[sludgeguts]

I really don't understand where people got that idea from. Japanese cars where always seen as the more reliable ones, as far as I can remember. Even nowadays, if one buys a late 90's/early 00's Toyota, for example, they know they have a car for the rest of their lives. Fiats, Lancias and Alfa Romeos were the "real" crappy ones.

Datsuns et al had a reputation for shoddy bodywork - you rarely saw an older (5 - 10yrs) car without holes/rust in the bodywork. (I'm talking 70s & 80s)
Other marques tended towards mechanical problems - which always seemed easier to deal with.

 

[kamkar]

I got 1 word for you @sludgeguts

Alfasud ! those was just as bad as any Datsun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Alfasud

 

[jokiin]

Datsuns et al had a reputation for shoddy bodywork - you rarely saw an older (5 - 10yrs) car without holes/rust in the bodywork. (I'm talking 70s & 80s)
Other marques tended towards mechanical problems - which always seemed easier to deal with.

had a mate that worked at a Datsun dealer when the 200B was current model and they used to have to do rust repairs on new vehicles prior to sale

I got 1 word for you @sludgeguts

Alfasud ! those was just as bad as any Datsun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Alfasud

yep, those were an investment in rust also

 

[sludgeguts]

Back in the 70s my dad bought a new Bluebird. Within a month he had it back to the dealer after every panel down 1 side started blistering - every panel was rusting from the inside out.
Of course, back then, the public seemed to have few rights.
The dealer had it back, stripped and repainted the whole side.
A couple of months later, the problem returned.
They claimed the problem was where the car was shipped over to the UK & that side was obviously open to the elements at sea...Hmmmmm
At this point, my dad got his insurance involved, luckily he had legal services on his insurance & they 'forced' the dealer to give my dad a brand new car.

I think the problem back then was simply attach panels & spray them. To save money, only bit that got sprayed was the bit that could be seen.
These days, they talk about galvanised body panels & some manufacturers dip parts, others use static to attract the paint to all areas.

 

[kamkar]

I have not tried to use electrostatic paint with the wet stuff, but i have worked a lot with hand and "robot" spray booths for powder coating.
And things dont have to be that gnarly before the powder dont reach where it should in enuff to secure a proper coating when baked.

Actually even somthing simple as a door made in metal ( firedoor ) need you to touch up some areas with the handheld gun even with 4 automatic guns on either side of the door in the booth.
And even more so when the metal frame for that door swing buy, it have even more nooks and crannys you have to cover by hand, this will be in the corners along what will be the top of the doorframe and the hinges for the door itself. But allso the bends in the metal in wich the seal will go and into wich the doow woll sit when closed, might seem like nothing as its just a 90 degree bend and it point strait towards the 4 robot guns, but still i advise to keep a close eye on it and give it a single once over with the handheld gun.
Actually all but the most simple things you have to watch out for powdercoating.

Now i do know wet painting is a lot smaller particles and as such they might be able to be drawn more into small places, then again looking at my own suzuki its easy for a skilled painter like myself to see a trained monkey must have paintes my car, sure as hell not somthing i would sign off on myself.

This is allso why i would never buy a fancy sports car, cuz the paintjob on them ??? damn just as RAW as any other mass produced car in my eyes.

What rust proof a modern car is the whole chassis dip they get before paint, the paint itself is just there to seell the car and add a little more protection to the outside surfaces that do after all get a high degree of enviormental and mecanical wear to them.

They should paint cars to the highest maratime standarts, that way when the car is rusted avay you can still drive in a hull of paint in the shape your car once was