Thinkware 750 Development

to be honest mate, unless you live on a really busy street and find the camera turns of half way through the night, leave it in motion mode, the Timelaps mode just gives us more options depending on your needs, one day, maybe even this weekend, ill wire up a meter and see what it draws, there will be a cross over point where too much action on motion mode uses more power an hour then timelaps.
 
So I tried to update. I initially tried with a freshly formatted Thinkware Card with only the renamed bin file. The 750 fired up just like it was normal and began it's continuous recording. Allowed it to go on for about 15 minutes. It didn't go into the firmware update process. I then tried it again with all the files in update zip file and got the same thing. When I looked at the card after it booted up the bin file was gone and all the folders I would expect to be there had been created. Still with the 750 firmware though.

What am I doing wrong?

Edit: The firmware file I am using is the current one off of Thinkware's web site. .03 I believe.
 
cacherjoe said:
So I tried to update. I initially tried with a freshly formatted Thinkware Card with only the renamed bin file. The 750 fired up just like it was normal and began it's continuous recording. Allowed it to go on for about 15 minutes. It didn't go into the firmware update process. I then tried it again with all the files in update zip file and got the same thing. When I looked at the card after it booted up the bin file was gone and all the folders I would expect to be there had been created. Still with the 750 firmware though.

What am I doing wrong?

Edit: The firmware file I am using is the current one off of Thinkware's web site. .03 I believe.
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Did you rename the file to 750?
 
Did you follow all the steps in Post #1 of this thread?

Download the F770 Firmware update.
Extract the .zip file
Rename the F770-pkg.bin to F750-pkg.bin
Place the renamed (F750-pkg.bin) file into the root directory of a freshly formatted SD Card.
Insert the SD Card into the camera, and turn it on.

RodeoGeorge
 
WA3PNT said:
Did you follow all the steps in Post #1 of this thread?

Download the F770 Firmware update.
Extract the .zip file
Rename the F770-pkg.bin to F750-pkg.bin
Place the renamed (F750-pkg.bin) file into the root directory of a freshly formatted SD Card.
Insert the SD Card into the camera, and turn it on.

RodeoGeorge
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Followed it exactly
 
Well, that has me stumped.
Myself, and many other people have upgraded to the F770 using that procedure.

Maybe @Dee82 has an idea of what to try.

RodeoGeorge
 
cacherjoe said:
So I tried to update. I initially tried with a freshly formatted Thinkware Card with only the renamed bin file. The 750 fired up just like it was normal and began it's continuous recording. Allowed it to go on for about 15 minutes. It didn't go into the firmware update process. I then tried it again with all the files in update zip file and got the same thing. When I looked at the card after it booted up the bin file was gone and all the folders I would expect to be there had been created. Still with the 750 firmware though.

What am I doing wrong?

Edit: The firmware file I am using is the current one off of Thinkware's web site. .03 I believe.
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If I were to hazard a guess, id say you don't have the thinkware card in?

If not then use the official thinkware card.

Failing that, download and reflash it with the latest F750 firmware, we need to understand if its an updating to F770 problem or just a problem with updating anything at all.
 
I'm using the Thinkware card that came with the camera, even though I fail to see what is really that special with those specific cards. I'm going to give it a try from scratch and re-download the firmware. If that doesn't work I'll try to flash the latest 750 like you suggest. I'll keep you posted.
 
One question, when you format the card, would you name it F750 or F770 or does it matter?
 
doesn't matter, format it with the thinkware viewer program, that will create the file structure and settings as well as rename the card for you, alternatively format it inside the camera, then just copy the file over, forget deleting anything.

The SD card is bit of a mine field, if your using the thinkware one then your all good but there is documented evidence of some major issues with other cards. Ill not bore you to death with the details but essentially, not every card is equal, some operate faster than others, some are better at specific tasks, like sequential writing and reading but have a terrible time with random writing and reading, its those small differences that cause problems.

Try the latest 750 firmware first and let us know how you get on, if you have ever used a card other than the thinkware card it has been known to cause issues which can persist until you reflash it,
 
Thanks Dee_82. When I tried it before I formatted it wth the Thinkware Viewer Program, then tried it with a quick format via Win10. With files and without files on the card. I did a full format via Win10. I may now try formatting with the viewer as you suggest, copy the file and see how that goes.

Update: I formatted the fully formatted card using Thinkware Viewer. I copied the renamed 770 firmware file to the root of the card leaving all the other files as they were. I put it in the camera and fired it up and it booted just like there was no firmware update file on the card.

I formatted the card in the camera and have copied the file over again. I'll try that when I leave work and see what happens. If that doesn't work I'll run the latest 750 firmware again and redo the process.
 
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that's very strange, ok, well try that F750 firmware first, . whilst your at it, completely kill the power to the device before hand and leave it turned off for a good 5 min or so, do you use the hardwire kit or the cigarette socket adaptor?

failing that I might send you the firmware image I used, ill compress it to maintain its integrity in case the image I being corrupted as you download it but I doubt that is the case, it doesn't sound like its even attempting to install the update.
 
Dee_82 said:
that's very strange, ok, well try that F750 firmware first, . whilst your at it, completely kill the power to the device before hand and leave it turned off for a good 5 min or so, do you use the hardwire kit or the cigarette socket adaptor?

failing that I might send you the firmware image I used, ill compress it to maintain its integrity in case the image I being corrupted as you download it but I doubt that is the case, it doesn't sound like its even attempting to install the update.
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Could it be the F750 version you upgrade from? I saw you upgraded to F770 from F750 v.15. I just upgraded my F750 from F750 v.15 to F750 v.22 and the .pkg file has gone from 130Mb to 170Mb. Just a thought.

Has anyone else upgraded to F770 from anything other than F750 v.15?
 
that's a good point, and if that is the case then its easily fixed by flashing the 15 image
 
Does anyone have the .15 image or are there archives on the web site?
 
cacherjoe said:
Does anyone have the .15 image or are there archives on the web site?
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The previous versions use the same naming as the current version: http://download2.inavi.com/dashcam/F750_4/firmware/f750_4_1.00.22.zip

In this case, the 4 is for Australia, so you'll need to change to whatever your country is, and also change to the version number you want.

I assume you're trying to downgrade like me, but I've not had any luck so far – it just goes straight to "continuous recording will now start" when I boot with a previous (v15) firmware in place. Also tried with v18, same result.

I've had nothing but problems with v22 since installing. Wifi doesn't connect (DHCP server seems broken), and I get "Insufficient memory in event folder" about every six hours, even though there's plenty of room on there card (only about 1hr worth of driving).

Sigh.
 
raoul said:
The previous versions use the same naming as the current version: http://download2.inavi.com/dashcam/F750_4/firmware/f750_4_1.00.22.zip

In this case, the 4 is for Australia, so you'll need to change to whatever your country is, and also change to the version number you want.

I assume you're trying to downgrade like me, but I've not had any luck so far – it just goes straight to "continuous recording will now start" when I boot with a previous (v15) firmware in place. Also tried with v18, same result.

I've had nothing but problems with v22 since installing. Wifi doesn't connect (DHCP server seems broken), and I get "Insufficient memory in event folder" about every six hours, even though there's plenty of room on there card (only about 1hr worth of driving).

Sigh.
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I'm thinking this is a bad flash, at the very least you should be able to flash the .22 firmware, even if thinkware added some kind of protection to prevent you installing other firmwares from other devices, it should still allow you to install the .22 again.

If you have used the thinkware card to do the flash then id suggest getting on to thinkware tech support.

I have a strong suspicion they will tell you to send it away for replacement.

To to do it yourself you need to connect to the device for that you need a special USB cable, I know the connector but I haven't been able to work out the pin configuration, even if you had the cable you would then need an ELF file for the device, this is a special recovery file.

at this moment in time, we have neither which will prevent you from fixing it yourself.

might be worth while trying a different SD card anyway, just remember to leave it unplugged for about 10 min first
 
Dee_82 said:
I'm thinking this is a bad flash [...] might be worth while trying a different SD card anyway, just remember to leave it unplugged for about 10 min first
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Thanks for all that! I did some more checking today and the "Insufficient memory in event folder" repeats over and over when in parking mode when there's only _one_ incident video – so it could be the SD card is on the way out. Yes I did use the thinkware card to install – it's the only one I've got.

I emailed Thinkware Australia yesterday outlining the above, but based on their previous lack of response to another issue I emailed them over some time ago, I'm not holding my breath. It may be that I need to call them.
 
Raoul - Might be a silly question but have you checked t0 see what the overwrite settings are. If you have the overwrite disabled for parking mode (or any other) it may be the reason for the insufficient memory. I have received that message before and was corrected by changing the setting. Now I only have manual recording set to not overwrite.
 
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