VIOFO A329 2CH - Testing / Review - RCG

The reason the A229 Pro was able to be 3-CH is because when the IR Interior camera is connected the Front / Main camera Bitrate was “cut in half” from 60 Mbps down to 36 Mbps degrading image quality.
The A229 Pro was able to be 3CH because it was the possibility the rear camera to have its own chipset. At that time there was no processor to record in good conditions in 3CH mode. Even you are scared about the lowering the bitrate on 3CH, it is not a disaster. Average Joe will not observe the difference and 99% of dashcams buyers are not video encoding specialist. More than that, on most of the videos they are looking on a smartphone, there are rare cases when they are watching their dashcam videos on a big screen TV to see a difference.

When you really need a 3CH dashcam you will not look at the bitrate, if you want the best, you will look for the best.

If A229 Pro is poor in 3CH mode show us a better 3CH dashcam and tell us that other managed to have a better image quality because they have higher bitrates. And more than that, one of the most sold cameras at least in the USA is the Blackvue and Blackvue had always lower bitrate compared to Viofo. And because of that low bitrate I dont see people not buying the Blackvue.

You are writing the things about Viofo lower bitrate like they are stupid, or they dont know it is lower or they want to make angry a Dashcamtalk forum user. Viofo always pushed the bitrate limits and because of that push they have returns because of overheated cameras. For them was more simple to keep Blackvue bitrate, it would be a more safe business.
Of course, if Viofo will go ever to an Ambarella chipset maybe you will see higher bitrates but we should not forget that when this forum was born, almost of dashcams were with Ambarella chipsets, the bitrate was high, but they lost the battle against Novatek which offered same or better quality at a much lower bitrate. If you want to see higher bitrate in specs, no matter if the video quality is better maybe you can find some Ambarella dashcam and use it.

I remember in some threads you are asking 100mbps. 100mbps for a dashcam is wasted bitrate, wasted space on card. If GoPro can do 100mbps it is because it is not recording 24 hours a day, it is not exposed 24 hours a day to sun or cold nights. Normally GoPro or other action cameras with hight bitrates are used as much their battery can run power. Maybe the GoPro didn't implemented the autostart when power is connected just to avoid their camera to be used 24 hours a day in a car for example because they knew it will fail. When Gitup was released, it has autostart from the launch, but fortunately for them not many people used the Gitup as dashcams.

If I will give you a 4K 50mbps original video and if you will encode it at 500mbps on PC, the resulted video will have 5x size and no better quality. When encoding videos there are some specifications like Q-Factor and if its value is over some value, the bitrate is wasted because there is no gain in video quality.
Just think that the 4K from Netflix is just 16mbps so it is possible to encode 4K at 16mbps which is not accepted in any good dashcam and Blu-Ray bitrate is about 40mbps average bitrate. So if a Blu-Ray can be released at 40Mbs, why a dashcam can not?

The best for you and us is to stop asking 100mbps for multichannel daschams. Also I would like to have a car running at 300 km/h but in reality in my country there is no road to allow such speed. And because of this I will not cry forever that I can not drive at 300 km/h because I don't have such car.
 
The bitrate of Viofo A229 Pro 3СН is sufficient for shooting in the city and on the highway. On roads with many trees along the road,
the bitrate may be a little short during the day, but this is not critical. At night, the bitrate on three channels is sufficient in any situation.
In the country where I live there are roads without speed limits. But for a normal person a comfortable speed is up to 160 km/h
depending on the car, and higher is already uncomfortable.
 
The best for you and us is to stop asking 100mbps
OK, I’ll give it a rest on Bitrate.
I was planning on testing the A329 with a custom firmware with 95 Mbps Bitrate =(

By the way, why does YouTube keep trying to sell me 1080p enhanced bitrate for $14 a month, is that a total scam?
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OK, I’ll give it a rest on Bitrate.
I was planning on testing the A329 with a custom firmware with 95 Mbps Bitrate =(

By the way, why does YouTube keep trying to sell me 1080p enhanced bitrate for $14 a month, is that a total scam?
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Most people won't notice the difference with enhanced bitrate. YouTube premium pricing is almost on par with what you get with netflix now lol.

Those of us who are smart enough have been using VPNs to get around the ripoff pricing of YouTube premium for a few years now. Much much cheaper.
 
@rcg530 I was trying to compare low bitrate parking mode power consumption on the A329 and the A229 Pro.

I found these test results in your respective threads:
A329 3.89W : 2160p 30fps (F) + 1440p 30fps (R)
A229 4.98W : 1440p 30fps (F) + 1440p 30fps (R)

I understand the A229 Pro now runs at 4K on the front camera in parking mode. Have you re-run any of the parking mode power consumption tests at 4K?
 
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Have you re-run any of the parking mode power consumption tests at 4K?
You’re gonna drive Robert crazy. Lol
It takes him 24 hours to perform a complete power consumption test suite for one dash cam.
When my A329 test unit arrives this week I’ll do your ala carte test.
I have identical power supply, Fluke, test method, and various other equipment as Robert.
Actually my Fluke is a 115, he has the updated 117 but, my test results are always within 50 milliamps of Robert’s.
 
@rcg530 I was trying to compare low bitrate parking mode power consumption on the A329 and the A229 Pro.

I found these test results in your respective threads:
A329 3.89W : 2160p 30fps (F) + 1440p 30fps (R)
A229 4.98W : 1440p 30fps (F) + 1440p 30fps (R)

I understand the A229 Pro now runs at 4K on the front camera in parking mode. Have you re-run any of the parking mode power consumption tests at 4K?

You’re gonna drive Robert crazy. Lol
It takes him 24 hours to perform a complete power consumption test suite for one dash cam.
When my A329 test unit arrives this week I’ll do your ala carte test.
I don't think a full test is warranted, unless either of you feel like doing one.

I was just curious whether the A229 Pro runs higher than 4.98W when recording 4K low bitrate.
 
@rcg530 I was trying to compare low bitrate parking mode power consumption on the A329 and the A229 Pro.

I found these test results in your respective threads:
A329 3.89W : 2160p 30fps (F) + 1440p 30fps (R)
A229 4.98W : 1440p 30fps (F) + 1440p 30fps (R)

I understand the A229 Pro now runs at 4K on the front camera in parking mode. Have you re-run any of the parking mode power consumption tests at 4K?
At the moment, I have the A229 Pro 2Ch (w/Rear) installed in my car. I have not rerun the power consumption tests since the firmware change to have low bitrate parking mode generate 4K front video files. I'll update the A229 Pro with the firmware that was released today. This afternoon, I'll move the DC power supply, Fluke 117 multimeter and cables to the garage for a limited power consumption test of low bitrate parking mode. The multimeter is currently being used for a battery pack charging test.
 
At the moment, I have the A229 Pro 2Ch (w/Rear) installed in my car. I have not rerun the power consumption tests since the firmware change to have low bitrate parking mode generate 4K front video files. I'll update the A229 Pro with the firmware that was released today. This afternoon, I'll move the DC power supply, Fluke 117 multimeter and cables to the garage for a limited power consumption test of low bitrate parking mode. The multimeter is currently being used for a battery pack charging test.
Thanks. No rush. I'm interested in a new dashcam but I won't be buying it over the weekend.
 
Thanks. No rush. I'm interested in a new dashcam but I won't be buying it over the weekend.
I was able to get the low bitrate testing completed with the newer firmware installed. It still creates 4K front video, but both the front/rear video files were the same byte size on the disk.

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With firmware v1.3.1_241024 (front) and v1.3_241022 (rear) installed, low bitrate parking mode, GPS off in parking mode:

A229 Pro (2CH w/rear) 4.91W : 2160p 30fps (F) + 1440p 30fps (R)
 
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but both the front/rear video files were the same byte size on the disk.
That is not a problem for low bitrate mode.
I might expect the 4K to increase its bitrate more than the 2K does if given some movement in the image.
 
I might expect the 4K to increase its bitrate more than the 2K does if given some movement in the image.
This will happen if the bitrate is VBR. Also when using VBR the bitrate is lower on dark scenes. And lower bitrate on darker scenes is not always good because it can give poor results and you cant change that. But with CBR nothing bad can happen depending on the scenes.
If the dashcams are recording as CBR, the bitrate will be always the same.

But the VBR should be interesting in Parking Mode. But again, can be some bad scenes at night.

No rush. I'm interested in a new dashcam but I won't be buying it over the weekend.
Not forget that A329 support SSD and I expect when using SSD the power consumption to be even higher. And more tests for Robert and more tables from Robert. A lot of work.
 
bitrate is VBR
This is why I dislike variable Bitrate, and prefer constant Bitrate.
During testing variable Bitrate fluctuates power consumption, and file size wildly making it difficult to get accurate measurements / readings.
I understand constant Bitrate will use more power, and memory space, but now we have 4TB SSD to fill up, and lower power consumption Super Night Vision parking mode. lol
 
Most of the people don't care about power consumption. On this forum are a lot of measurements, maybe are too many and people will go tired to look on all those tables and posts. But for the user which is really interested about power consumption he will look for every detail.
But most of them will be disappointed if in some scene of night recording the bitrate was poor and losing the needed details. I consider this to be more dangerous compared to power consumption. It is expected the users of parking mode to use the car almost daily so their car battery will survive for some time. Also there is a voltage cut so their car will start after a night of parking recording.
But when the user will discover that his dashcam is using too much battery they will try to find the solution.

I don't think they will not buy the desired dashcam just because the power consumption in parking mode is more by 1W compared to another.
For example I know that the dashcam with SSD will consume more power just because it is logical, not because I read some tables. But I will prefer to record on SSD and take some risks about my car battery.
I already learned that if I want parking mode I need to buy a car battery each 2 years. They are not so expensive, it is more important my car to be protected.
If I will buy a power bank maybe my car battery will be needed to be replaced each 3 years. But because in Europe the products warranty is 2 years, many manufacturers are making the products to last 2 years and I observed that 20 years ago a car battery could be replaced after 7 years, not it is more often.
 
Not forget that A329 support SSD and I expect when using SSD the power consumption to be even higher. And more tests for Robert and more tables from Robert. A lot of work.
I already posted the A329 power consumption test results with a microSD card and a SanDisk 1TB SSD drive in post 4 of this thread.

 
Yes, I saw that tables when you posted them. I wanted to say that when I buy a camera with SSD I expect the power consumption to be higher than the same camera when recording on card, without any measurement. Also I expect a camera with infrared lights on to consume more power compared to infrared off, without any measurement too. Many people are buying 3CH dashcams just for the parking mode to use also the interior camera.
 
Most of the people don't care about power consumption. On this forum are a lot of measurements, maybe are too many and people will go tired to look on all those tables and posts. But for the user which is really interested about power consumption he will look for every detail.
But most of them will be disappointed if in some scene of night recording the bitrate was poor and losing the needed details. I consider this to be more dangerous compared to power consumption. It is expected the users of parking mode to use the car almost daily so their car battery will survive for some time. Also there is a voltage cut so their car will start after a night of parking recording.
But when the user will discover that his dashcam is using too much battery they will try to find the solution.

I don't think they will not buy the desired dashcam just because the power consumption in parking mode is more by 1W compared to another.
For example I know that the dashcam with SSD will consume more power just because it is logical, not because I read some tables. But I will prefer to record on SSD and take some risks about my car battery.
I already learned that if I want parking mode I need to buy a car battery each 2 years. They are not so expensive, it is more important my car to be protected.
If I will buy a power bank maybe my car battery will be needed to be replaced each 3 years. But because in Europe the products warranty is 2 years, many manufacturers are making the products to last 2 years and I observed that 20 years ago a car battery could be replaced after 7 years, not it is more often.
I agree.
1.) Image Quality
2.) Reliability
3.) Durability

Low Parking Mode Power Consumption is on the bottom of my list because dash cam battery packs exist.
However, if Viofo had Ultra-Low power consumption in parking mode like the Vueroid D21 4K without finicky radar modules used in the Thinkware U3000 that may lure customers away from Thinkware, and into a Viofo increasing their marketshare.
 
My typical weekday is a 10 minute drive to work, 9 hours parked, 10 minute drive home. Parking mode is very important to me. I don't regularly drive enough to charge a car battery or a dashcam battery pack to cover that amount of parking time.

I'm building a new setup that uses a 185Wh powerbank that I can charge at home easily. I'm not sure yet - I just started testing - but I might get 3 or 4 days of parking time from a full charge, depending on the dashcam I choose to buy.

The A329 low power consumption is attractive to me, combined with it's excellent driving recording performance.
 
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I was able to get the low bitrate testing completed with the newer firmware installed. It still creates 4K front video, but both the front/rear video files were the same byte size on the disk.

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With firmware v1.3.1_241022 (front) and v1.3_241022 (rear) installed, low bitrate parking mode, GPS off in parking mode:

A229 Pro (2CH w/rear) 4.91W : 2160p 30fps (F) + 1440p 30fps (R)
Thanks for the quick test!
 
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