COVID-19 Coronavirus Thread

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SawMaster said:
I remember when the internet was touted as the world's best tool for education, but since nobody forced that to happen it became the worlds largest toy :rolleyes:

Phil
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I was first introduced to the internet in 1993 using the Mosaic Browser running on Mac OS 7. I then graduated to Netscape Navigator 1.0. It was an exciting time and everyone was totally jazzed by the promise of the internet going forward. Much of the early content was from graduate students and people like me and my friends building early web sites hand coding HTML. At that time there was no such thing as malware or viruses. There was no such thing as SPAM. There were not really any commercial web sites to speak of except for a guy who was selling 100 varieties of hot sauce out of a closet sized store front in San Francisco. I remember he was shocked when he sold out his inventory so fast he couldn't believe it and had to rent warehouse space and hire an employee. Things started to take off like gangbusters and there was a land grab for domain names. Now we have a toxic cess pool.
 
Good the hear from everyone again :) Things are weird everywhere what with closings and restricrions but all that does seem to be effective at slowing the thing down. Here in SC the State Attorney General issued a ruling saying that only the Governor had the authority to order lockdowns and :stay-at-home' laws which has PO'ed several City Mayors who had issued orders for that already. Some are openly disobeying and keeping their closures in place anyway. Myrtle Beach, our best seaside beach, has already issued 10 citations to people in groups of 3 or more who refused to disband and create distance when asked to by Law Enforcement. And they've closed all the hotels there. One man who was being kicked out got mad and showed a gun but didn't point it at anyone when hotel staff told him he had to leave. Cops escorted hom off the property and let him go when he promised to leave the area quietly. Our Governer doesn't want to order a lockdown but with our cases rising so quickly I don't see how he will be able to avoid that much longer. Doesn't seem to be any cases here in the hills yet but that too can't last as most folks up here work in the cities nearby which almost all have at least one reported case. Looks like I'm going to be "on vacation" up here for 1-3 more weeks, so after a trip to my storage unit I'll have the wire and suff to redo my cam install in the workvan- if I can find the box all that stiuff was in!

Phol
 
SawMaster said:
Looks like I'm going to be "on vacation" up here for 1-3 more weeks,
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Seems like you have listened to Trump!

3 weeks will probably get you onto the peak, you need to double it to get back to low levels again, maybe a bit more if the peak is spread out by people being careful not to spread it around quickly. Remember that it spreads slower in populations that are less concentrated and slower in populations that are are trying not to spread it, you are not going to see New York type spread in your neighbourhood.
 
jokiin said:
some time outdoors in the sunshine each day would do you some good ;)
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SawMaster said:
Good the hear from everyone again :) Things are weird everywhere what with closings and restricrions but all that does seem to be effective at slowing the thing down. Here in SC the State Attorney General issued a ruling saying that only the Governor had the authority to order lockdowns and :stay-at-home' laws which has PO'ed several City Mayors who had issued orders for that already. Some are openly disobeying and keeping their closures in place anyway. Myrtle Beach, our best seaside beach, has already issued 10 citations to people in groups of 3 or more who refused to disband and create distance when asked to by Law Enforcement. And they've closed all the hotels there. One man who was being kicked out got mad and showed a gun but didn't point it at anyone when hotel staff told him he had to leave. Cops escorted hom off the property and let him go when he promised to leave the area quietly. Our Governer doesn't want to order a lockdown but with our cases rising so quickly I don't see how he will be able to avoid that much longer. Doesn't seem to be any cases here in the hills yet but that too can't last as most folks up here work in the cities nearby which almost all have at least one reported case. Looks like I'm going to be "on vacation" up here for 1-3 more weeks, so after a trip to my storage unit I'll have the wire and suff to redo my cam install in the workvan- if I can find the box all that stiuff was in!

Phol
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Good to hear from you Phil :) Stay safe, and if you can, sane!
 
The pestilence numbers of today.

Total tested: 21,378 ( up 1180 in the past 24 hours )
Total Infected: 2555 ( up 116 in the past 24 hours )
In hospital: 533 ( up 34 in the past 24 hours )
In ICU: 137 ( up 6 in the past 24 hours )
On ventilator: 119 ( up 6 in the past 24 hours )
Dead: 77 ( up 5 in the past 24 hours )
The youngest person here on ventilator are 25 YO
 
SawMaster said:
You may have heard of apple cider vinegar being used as a general health tonic.I figured it would be worth a try but I couldn't handle the taste. The rest will be good to clean the coffee,maker with though!

Phil
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Vinegar straight up is hard to take.
Two reasonable options for using vinegar exist.

1. Put some in a full glass of water. The diluted taste is not so bad.
2. Put some vinegar in a glass. Add a bunch of lemon juice and stevia or other sweetener to make lemonade. Unless you add to much vinegar it is not objectionable or noticeable in this form.
 
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So here they have been re-running old flu tests, from before the Corona thing got to be a thing here, and they found the stuff there too.
This is actually good cuz this mean the Danes are a week longer into this run than first expected, and that make numbers a lot better, so after Easter they might gradually start to open up for some things.
I just pray they remember that it do not matter much if all Danish factories are up and running, if there are no orders coming in from the outside world.
Vinegar are some foul stuff, me not like.

This is the adjusted graph of admitted people VS worst case Italian style prognosis.
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Seem like the "hill" we Danes have to climb will be in line with the actual hills we have here in this fairly flat country.
So the tour de France mountain stage profiles we will not get, so that's pretty nice.

Also some Italian media have a list over countries / leaders who handle this best #1 is,,,,,, we Danes, they especially liked in the beginning our PM did a "press" conference on TV with questions from kids and not main stream media.
 
kamkar1 said:
Seem like the "hill" we Danes have to climb will be in line with the actual hills we have here in this fairly flat country.
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My guess is that you get to the top on Sunday, then a gentle ride down the other side.

In the UK:
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We had a rather sharp summit and seem to be dropping quickly, although I suspect it may head up again as soon as some more cities pick up speed.
 
jokiin said:
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Many aspects of these videos people are posting here are merely opinion pieces and in some cases outright propaganda and they are full of incorrect information and speculation. For example, the fellow in this video claims that unlike other countries the US is not enforcing social distancing orders. While it is true that in many situations the police are "strongly encouraging" folks to stop gathering when they see them congregating in certain locations in modest sized groups such as at beaches and parks rather than using more forceful tactics, in more serious violations with larger groups when someone is blatantly violating these state of emergency orders they are beginning to arrest people. Today for example a Pastor of a megachurch in Florida was arrested for holding Sunday services with hundreds of worshipers despite a public health emergency order against it. So the guy in the video is making a false claim.

Pastor arrested for violating rules amid virus outbreak

EDIT: A Brooklyn NY bar operator has now been arrested for violating an executive order from Governor Cuomo banning nonessential gatherings and business due to the COVID-19 crisis.

Another example involves the doctor who claims to have cured hundreds of corona virus victims with hydroxychloroquine and other drugs. The doctor has publicly admitted that he hasn't bothered to test any of the hundreds of patients he's treated for corona virus and so there is no way to know what was causing the symptoms these people were actually suffering from. Maybe the drug works and I certainly hope it does, but you can't just start handing it out to random patients and have any scientific notions about the results or reach any valid conclusions. Maybe some patients had corona virus or maybe they had the flu or some other bug? That's the very reason for doing actual controlled clinical trials!

At a time like this, it is vital to sort out fact from fiction and engage in critical thinking when viewing such videos.
 
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Nigel said:
Seems like you have listened to Trump!
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I hear everyone (or I try to) but as far as listening to someone who is as confused as Trump has been is as intelligent as checking if a gun is loaded by looking down the barrel and pulling the trigger. That man has charisma and does good at business, but he's a fool, which anyone who really listens to him and remembers what he's already said can easily tell. I'm not a liberal but I wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire as that would be a waste of urine :rolleyes: I do listen to the Medical folks who are hand;ling this, and they predict a peak in my State in 1-3 more weeks with the later figure being more commonly heard. Thing is at some point I run out of money and then my hand is forced:cautious: My biggest concern at this point is my business. My main client wants to keep going but if houses don't sell then at some point he quits investing. My next biggest one has said he's on hold until he sees what the economy is going to do.I have back-up in an older client who will give me enough to keep the bills paid but I don't like him or working for him (though I will if need be) ;) But still, all of that means getting back out into the world.

This is a lot like Columbus's voyage to America: He knew there would be a landing but he didn't know exactly where or how long it would take to happen. So maybe we will succeed as well as he did :)

There's a lot of folks far worse off than me so I can't see that I have any complaint. I'm doing OK and I hope everyone else is too.

Phil
 
In Belgium a 12 YO girl died from this, just a FIY to the happy go lucky bullet proof young folks out there.

Spain have seen 849 dead in the past day, and a increase of 9222 people infected also in the past day.
Meanwhile the airspace over Denmark have seen 85 % lesser airplanes,,,, though it should be said that we are not directly under any of the "highways" in the sky.
But judging from NASA pics of parked planes around the world, nobody are flying much.
I did however get a MSG that something i ordered in China on March 2 are finally heading in my direction.

Also poo for brains Danes think that due to the virus Danish police have other things to do, and so it seem they put the pedal to the metal.
Last week some idiot was caught doing +200 km/h on a 80 km/h highway, and today i read people have been caught going faster that that on motorways, a biker even tried to outrun a MC cop, and so hitting speeds over 250 km/h.
Also it seem like saying corona and the coughing / spitting on cops are a new trend, for that a guy was arrested but managed to flee after court so he is now wanted nationwide.
In this case i hope the genius rocket scientist make it out of here.

WANTED: Jasser Yasser Ibrahim
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And some other idiot did the same yesterday :) This is considered a assault on a police officer, and so not a popularity contest winning thing to do.
 
kamkar1 said:
This is considered a assault on a police officer, and so not a popularity contest winning thing to do.
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Personally, I would classify it as attempted murder, assuming the better outcome!
Anyone doing it intentionally knows that it can kill.
 
Yeah.
Sadly we Danes have our very own and have imported many intelligence impaired people.

A similar person but this guy with a mile long record managed to stage a armed and shooting escape from the mental institution where he was locked up, well he and his helpers was arrested in Spain a few weeks ago.
But outline the incompetence here, they managed to smuggle 2 pistols into him in a box of cookies, and i am like come on :rolleyes: it is a closed mental ward that house many really dangerous people, actually too dangerous to be in prison, and you can smuggle in pistols in a box of cookies. :rolleyes:
 
The latest pestilence numbers from my country.

Total tested: 23,763 ( up 2385 over yesterday )
Total infected : 2815 ( up 260 over yesterday )
In hospital: 529 ( down 4 over yesterday )
In ICU: 145 ( up 8 over yesterday )
On ventilator: 131 ( up 12 over yesterday )
Total dead: 99 ( up 22 over yesterday )

Need more green, on the trees outside and in the statistics.
 
I had not considered the impact of corona on the production of new movies and TV shows.

variety.com

German Producers Call For Shooting Ban as Film Funders Offer Help

In Germany, calls are growing ever louder for an official ban on film shoots as the coronavirus crisis intensifies.
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Berlin-based X Filme is calling for an official government ban on filming in order to ensure production companies can qualify for state aid. At the moment, shooting is allowed on private premises, like studios.

“(As) long as it is not legally prohibited, we as German producers are not in a position to cancel ongoing productions on our own initiative and liability without damage in the millions and thereby endangering the survival of the company,” X Filme said in a statement.

In an open letter to government leaders and health authorities published by trade publication Blickpunkt Film, filmmaker Markus Goller (“25 km/h”) echoed the sentiment

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