GS8000

[Densor]

Marcus

I wouldn't worry too much. That website you quote is probably just being honest. They admit that it specifies 170 deg, but in reality it is probably only 150 deg. If mine was really 170 deg it would be recording the pillars either side of my windscreen.

You asked about the HD quality. If you view my video on Youtube try playing with a few of the quality selections available. 1080 looks really good, but 480 looks like a really crummy camera. I have also used the DataKam software that enables you to look at your trip and view it on Google Maps. The maps part didn't work, but the viewer enables you to zoom in on the video as it plays. The native video is a bit curved due to the wide angle lens, but when you zoom in on it, it is amazing how much detail it captures ie. number plates etc.

That website also claims "super" night time vision. If this is true it must be a totally different design to that of mine. My night time video is only Ok on a very well lit road and definitely not super !

The size of the battery isn't really important depending on how you will use it. If you have it mounted in your car with the lead plugged into the 12V outlet it won't matter at all. The dashcam will turn on when you turn the ignition on. It will turn off ( after your pre-selected delay) when you turn the ignition off. The battery only needs to last that long. In reality, mine lasts longer that 20 minutes.

You will be happy with your cam. It is reliable and gives good daytime video, and it is a lot cheaper than those $250+ professional dashcams.

David

 

[Marcus]

Thanks David

My main concern is getting a fake one, if such a thing exists on this model ? Any evidence of that on this model yet ?

Will be mounted in my lorry on power lead, the battery life is certainly not a concern more an observation of massive differences between 2 different vendors and the specification of a supposed identical unit.

 

[satsurfer]

I have received a reaction of Niximtech, ebay article: 321033487481

"yes, this is Carl Zeiss optics . the lens is all glass , you can judge it from the effect of video . thanks .

please confirm the product before buying . thanks . i don't know why you said 95% out of china/Hong Kong is fake . sorry .

please give me the link about GS8000 for less than 100US$ (same specs!) in my store . thanks . i don't know where it is in my store . we have another GS8000 sells US $139.99 which it without GPS . thanks "

He doesn't know what he is talking about....I shouldn't bother asking him if it is blue or orange menue

I also mailed carl zeiss photo germany (for europe, I don't write chinese ) to ask if their product is linked with this camera......It's copyright fraude! I also said that to the seller....I am curious if he will let it on his site... :lol:

in4dealz augmented his price with 10US$, the b******

 

[satsurfer]

reaction 1 ebay seller (niximtech):

Thanks for your message ,

1.sorry , "http://www.ebay.de/itm/170963303435?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_9502wt_952
yesterday was 99,99US$, now 110US$ WITH GPS."

sorry , this is not in my store , this is not my product . please check careful . thanks

2.you wrote: ""yes, this is Carl Zeiss optics . the lens is all glass , you can judge it from the effect of video"
=> I need PROOF! You just can't say it is Carl Zeiss, if it isn't?
certificat (證書) of Carl Zeiss?
Just your site mentions Carl Zeiss! All other sellers don't mention it? Who is lying?"

sorry , i can't provide any proof right now .but we never sell fake , we have the factory . who is lying is according to your judgement, i am a seller , i need not to say anything about other seller's product . please make sure before buying . thanks

3."Here are the facts of fake camera's!
http://dashcamtalk.com/gs1000/#GS2000

DOes this camera has blue or orange menue"

our product GS8000 , GS5000 all are blue menu !

=> my thought: The New Orange Menu is an Ambarella A2S processor based camera as well and can be identified in a few ways. It has an orange menu like this.
The quality of daytime video and night time video is better than than Blue Menu camera. Even though the night video is better than the Blue Menu camera
http://dashcamtalk.com/gs1000/#New_Orange_Menu
So, he doesn't know what he is talking about.....

thanks for your message , although others sell fake , there are not represent for every China people . i think you can judge things by yourself thanks

best regards !

reaction 2 ebay seller (niximtech):

Thanks for your message ,

i think you can judge by yourself . thanks . if you think China people sell fake , you will think that maybe there is no real product in China . but please understand that there are many famous things all over the world are be made by Chinese factory , it is authorized by other country's company . thanks

best regards !


- niximtech

*******************************************************
Got a reaction from Carl Zeiss Firm (no Fake )

Carl Zeiss Camera Lenses - Support <photoapplication@zeiss.de>
21:04 (57 minuten geleden)

to me
Dear Mr. ******,

Thank you for your inquiry to Carl Zeiss.

We do not cooperate with any manufacturer of such products.
So normally, it could be no Carl Zeiss lens inside, except the manufacturer takes out Carl Zeiss lenses from Logitech webcams and rebuilds them in his own products.


Sincerely,
B****** **********

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Carl Zeiss AG
Geschäftsbereich Photoobjektive / Camera Lens Division
Internationaler Vertrieb / International Sales
Kundensupport / Customer Support

Telefon/Phone: ++49 73** ** ****
Fax: +49 73 ** **- ** **
e-mail: ******.**********@zeiss.com
http: http://www.zeiss.de/photo

Carl Zeiss AG
cut

 

[DashCamMan]

Unfortunately, since this is a new camera, it will be difficult to identify the real from the fakes right away. There might be just one version but perhaps there are more. I have yet to see any dash cam with Carl Zeiss optics. That is stretching the truth to say the least :?

 

[Sabe]

So normally, it could be no Carl Zeiss lens inside, except the manufacturer takes out Carl Zeiss lenses from Logitech webcams and rebuilds them in his own products.

This is very difficult camera to know what is fake and what's not, and of course, you can't trust those images he offers because they may be copied from elsewhere.
What you finally get in your hand could be totally different product.

That claim of Zeiss optics was ridiculous.

 

[Marcus]

My hope is as it's new the chances of a fake already being produced may be less, ie not had a chance to copy it yet ?

 

[DashCamMan]

Hi Marcus,

You are right. Typically new models don't have fakes yet. In fact, there have many cases where the new models are superior to the later models. It seems like the Chinese manufacturers release a new model with decent components. A few people buy it and post great comments. A lot of interest is generated and people start ordering. As demand picks up, they start changing components to reduce costs (cheap lenses are a common change). Then you here a ton of complaints about it being a poor camera. Happened with the Carcam K2000, F302A, "Mouse DVR", etc...

 

[satsurfer]

It is difficult:

first they make a mix with the specs + language...communicating in English is same as talking chinese to me....They don't understand very well.

To me, the gs8000 looks like that...
I would buy it here (100% rating, lowest price,...)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-arri ... 90161.html

I just saw the GS8000 pics of the gps holder are correct, but NOT on the bottom of the page...this is one from gs1000
also Ambarella cpu is not mentioned (but confirms on mail)

various specs on aliexpress (also not possible to pay with paypal)
specs: 170° degree lens, sometimes 160°, sometimes they mention Ambarella, sometimes not, sometimes type of processor A5!,

113 US$ (CUBOT GS8000Pro)
No Mention of Ambarella (they call it: solution: Ambarealla)
300mAh, 3.7V
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shi ... 03976.html

http://www.pandawill.com/cubot-gs8000pr ... 69979.html

same: (130US$)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-arri ... 71716.html

This is also the gs8000?! :roll:
It looks more like a GS1000 with external gps module
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-2 ... 64229.html

this is sent by Express, so lower price if sent with HK post. I will ask them new price...and then choose first link or this one (uses paypal!)

uncompressed GS8000 file from Foxoffer
http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https ... U3NDg0MjEx

 

[Sabe]

This is situation where i don't want to buy any GS8000 camera.
Even alone dx.com has 4 models, impossible to decide which is what.
Very bad marketing.

http://dx.com/p/cubot-gs8000-2-7-16...-1080p-w-g-sensor-hdmi-av-out-tf-black-179205
http://dx.com/p/cubot-gs8000pro-5-0...th-gps-google-map-hdmi-av-out-tf-black-178045
http://dx.com/p/g8000-2-7-tft-5-0mp...rder-w-4-led-night-version-av-out-hdmi-176680
http://dx.com/p/gs8000-2-7-tft-full...order-w-g-sensor-hdmi-av-out-4-led-gps-175408

 

[satsurfer]

you have the one with gps and without gps....it's a real soup....they mix specs together..... :twisted:

 

[DashCamMan]

With so many different versions out there, it is difficult to understand which one to buy at this early stage. Note that the "GS8000's" that look like this:

are really GS6000 / DVR-3GP DVRs (Orange menu cams with larger screen and external GPS).

 

[satsurfer]

dashcamman? source? 90% are like mine I bought
10% like you say 'the original'....=> update: I've seen your link....thanks

So there are a lot more fakes, than real ones? The real GS8000 costs also a lot more...

I just ordered this one: 109 US$ incl. reg. shipping to Europe (good support, they write and understand English fluently)

Foxoffer said:
"The real GS8000 have 170 degree view angle, the one you showed is 120 degree angle. Ours can see wider scene.

I know the one you showed also have GPS and Ambarella chip, but ours is the most popular one, and it's the original one.

I don't know why others also call their product GS8000, but if you say ours is fake--that makes me very angry."

I first cancelled my order after reading this, but then ordered it again.
I have seen the videos (uncompressed) of their gs8000 (also on pandawill.com) and I am surprised by the good quality (there is always not a fluent video, schocks al the time....? same gs2000-6000)
also the GS6000 is way to big, and the price is also higher...These are my arguments

 

[Densor]

Satsurfer

I doubt that "Smilin Electronic" could be called a reputable seller. If you do a search for GS8000 in their shop they have three different products all called GS8000. They can't even get the description right in the details of the real GS8000. Their specs don't match up with the pictures they show. I think you did the best thing and avoided them.

I hope Foxffer look after you better. Their price looked more expensive than what you quoted until I realised they sent it by express port (EMS or DHL).

 

[DashCamMan]

Hi satsurfer,

Until more people purchase the cam it will be difficult to know which is what. At a minimum, there are 2 different cameras.

The GS8000 like Densor purchased originally with the distinct lens (probably based on the Blue Menu GS1000).

The GS6000 / DVR-3GP DVR which is a different style all together (probably based on the Orange Menu GS1000).

However, there are probably variations of hardware within those 2 styles (cheaper / better components). Unfortunately, no one knows who is selling what because many of these Chinese vendors are not that honest as can be seen from the claims in this thread. I'm sure some reputable vendors will emerge out of this chaos :shock:

 

[satsurfer]

I ordered here:

price dropped 8% to yesterday I ordered mine for 126,9US$, now 119,80 US$ with UPS/DHL shipping!
very fast answers (except when they sleep )

Pandawill I have screened before, but too many negative reviews (after service horrible)

Even if it is not the 'real' GS8000, I think, I will be satisfied...

a seller from aliexpress said the model I bought is M900 in their shop

"In our Company we call the model you bought from elsewhere M900."
http://www.szsmilin.com/productinfo.asp?id=768

 

[KoKi]

Can the GS8000 operate with the display turned off ?? is there such option?
I do not want it always on, it draws attention...

 

[Marcus]

Mine has arrived. First impressions good.

You appear to be able to turn off the LCD while it is recording.

Will post back the firmware version number shortly.

Will test tomorrow as I am already home from work and it is dark.

Will plug it into the truck and do some recording tomorrow afternoon.

 

[Marcus]

You can define how long the LCD screen stays on in several options 1,3,5 mins or always on.

My version etc.

 

[DashCamMan]

Thanks for sharing Marcus. The more we see of these cameras (firmware, menus, videos), it will become easier to identify the different models. Glad to hear first impressions are good.