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@sludgeguts you weren't waving your willy at them through the window were you? I'd have sped off in fear of my life if so
The rule for turning right is irrelevant since he wasn't turning right, he didn't indicate right so you had no reason to think that he was and without him indicating right, undertaking him was unwise.You're making this up as you go along aren't you?
Rule 187 applies more to the huge multi-lane roundabouts, NOT where two vehicles enter a small roundabout at the same time. He was alongside me through the roundabout therefore it would be impossible to see what he was doing & where he was going. I did give them plenty of room since I obviously didn't cut the roundabout.
As for not seeing that he did anything wrong - you completely skipped over rule
186
Signals and position
When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
He had lead position approaching the roundabout so had the choice of lanes. He chose the right hand lane therefore I have to assume that he is turning right - else what is the point of having a set of rules?
- signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
- keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
- signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want.
I can't see a 12 o'clock rule, the only thing that mentions 12 o'clock is one of the diagrams and the diagrams are only advice: "Follow the advice in the diagrams".And since you read the appendix, at what point did the merc driver correctly follow the 12o'clock rule?
"The rule for turning right is irrelevant since he wasn't turning right, he didn't indicate right"The rule for turning right is irrelevant since he wasn't turning right, he didn't indicate right so you had no reason to think that he was and without him indicating right, undertaking him was unwise.
I can't see a 12 o'clock rule, the only thing that mentions 12 o'clock is one of the diagrams and the diagrams are only advice: "Follow the advice in the diagrams".
WAVE it? At my age I'm lucky if I can FIND it@sludgeguts you weren't waving your willy at them through the window were you? I'd have sped off in fear of my life if so
I would follow the normal rules for overtaking, specifically rule 163:Can I assume, then, that if you were in a similar situation you would simply sit and wait until there is no traffic alongside you? NO, you assume that everyone else is following the advice of the code book. That is why our roads are far safer than some countries' where it seems to be a free for all & chaos reigns.
Following those rules would have ensured that there was no issue.Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should
- only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
- stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left
Her gesture may be linked to her inability to keep her car stopped against the forces of not a single clutch yet a double clutch failure pulling her forward. A sort of "Oh well" gestureAround here we're expected to believe the driver is saying something along the lines of "oh no, my stupid gearbox has failed again"
Seems legit
WTF are you on?I would follow the normal rules for overtaking, specifically rule 163:
Following those rules would have ensured that there was no issue.
As I started in the left lane, the only way I could overtake would be to move over to the right and mount the roundabout!
Yeah, when you look at many of the roundabouts in this area & see all the mangled street furniture, you come to the conclusion that taking the straightest line possible (ie up and over the middle of the roundabout) is quite common - even though quite a few roundabouts are some 3 - 4ft higher than the road surface.so now your true intentions are coming out
There isn't, that is a pedestrian crossing some distance before the roundabout - with green lights unless the pedestrians want to cross.Why has no one pointed out there being a traffic light leading into a roundabout? That kind of defeats the purpose a roundabout...
Why has no one pointed out there being a traffic light leading into a roundabout? That kind of defeats the purpose a roundabout...
Does UK roadlaw say that the Merc must turn right if its in the right lane? The diagrams of the rules aren't that clear, and it reads to me that if you want to turn right you must do so from the right lane, not that you can't go straight.
In my state, unless otherwise signed, the left lane can turn left and go straight, the right lane can go straight and turn right, and in this situation the other side of the roundabout is treated as merging to a single lane.
Had I been driving the Merc, I would have done the same thing, however I would have accelerated hard so as not to be in the way of a merging bus as they have right of way.
Same here mate - supposedly the staff member from the local council who is in charge of the roads around here commissioned a set of lights on two roundabouts that had been pretty free flowing. The result now is that you queue for ages waiting for the lights to change and it's caused carnage the way they've split the lanes up.we have some roundabouts here with traffic lights, they use them if the traffic is too heavy