The VUEROiD S1 4K Infinite Has Arrived

[Augustus]

Another, long seven-minute into-the-sun drive; this time testing with a CPL. I am looking for changes in coloration, shading, light intensities, darkening, wavering in color and light, reflections, clarity, ghosting, and flares. Overall, the Vueroid S1 4K is doing an excellent job in handling all of these. Ghosting and flares are noticeable, but that is to be expected.

You can stop the video when cars are passing me and see the license plates quite well. When stopped at a traffic light, the approaching vehicles' plates are more difficult to read. I attribute some of that loss of definition to the CPL.


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Very nice video mate 🙂

 

[lufa6977]

License plate capture is sometimes a mix of optimal speed between vehicles, lens angle, lighting, etc. This image is from the S1 4K front camera that I have mounted on the rear glass of my Outback.

Here is an image: The passing truck and I are probably traveling at the same speed, but in opposite directions.

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[VUEROiD]

Another, long seven-minute into-the-sun drive; this time testing with a CPL. I am looking for changes in coloration, shading, light intensities, darkening, wavering in color and light, reflections, clarity, ghosting, and flares. Overall, the Vueroid S1 4K is doing an excellent job in handling all of these. Ghosting and flares are noticeable, but that is to be expected.

You can stop the video when cars are passing me and see the license plates quite well. When stopped at a traffic light, the approaching vehicles' plates are more difficult to read. I attribute some of that loss of definition to the CPL.

We won’t stop here or leave it as it is. We’ll continue fine-tuning to minimize artifacts and achieve the best possible results.

 

[kamkar]

I have often wondered why a 2 channel dashcam with the same sensors in both ends, the rear seem to struggle more with plate capture somehow, even factoring in lighting conditions against / going away from the bright source AKA my big yellow friend in the sky.

One thing that get me with these Americans providing footage, nothing at all to do with the cameras performance, but those ghastly air wires strung up everywhere.

 

[lufa6977]

I have often wondered why a 2 channel dashcam with the same sensors in both ends, the rear seem to struggle more with plate capture somehow, even factoring in lighting conditions against / going away from the bright source AKA my big yellow friend in the sky.

One thing that get me with these Americans providing footage, nothing at all to do with the cameras performance, but those ghastly air wires strung up everywhere.

I also dislike all the aerial utilities. It is hard to get away from it once it is in use. There are a slew of reasons for aerial, a lot of it has to do with cost; pulling down aerial and going with buried facilities is expensive, plus the utility company is constantly digging up and repairing cables that have been cut by homeowners or commercial companies. In older rural areas, it is almost always aerial; exceptions would be new home subdivisions, etc. Many cities now require new facilities to be buried, and some are co-located in the same trench. Of course, gas and electric are in separate trenches. It is a gnarly mess to look at, and frankly, I would be glad to see all the cables get buried.

These American plates are a nuisance to try to capture. As you mentioned, lighting conditions and much more either help or hinder image capture.

 

[qusejr2]

Another, long seven-minute into-the-sun drive; this time testing with a CPL. I am looking for changes in coloration, shading, light intensities, darkening, wavering in color and light, reflections, clarity, ghosting, and flares. Overall, the Vueroid S1 4K is doing an excellent job in handling all of these. Ghosting and flares are noticeable, but that is to be expected.

You can stop the video when cars are passing me and see the license plates quite well. When stopped at a traffic light, the approaching vehicles' plates are more difficult to read. I attribute some of that loss of definition to the CPL.


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the lense of S1, front and rear , we develop the lense itself for S1 with korean local company which have speciality for lense. For more wide angle, more sensitive and clarity, we focused on the image quality . we spend a lot of resource to verify and improve the image quality and reliablility . you are comments is reward of it

 

[lufa6977]

the lense of S1, front and rear , we develop the lense itself for S1 with korean local company which have speciality for lense. For more wide angle, more sensitive and clarity, we focused on the image quality . we spend a lot of resource to verify and improve the image quality and reliablility . you are comments is reward of it

We won’t stop here or leave it as it is. We’ll continue fine-tuning to minimize artifacts and achieve the best possible results.

I am very pleased with how well the S1 4K handles the direct sun. The photos I posted and the video both show instances of bright light on one side of the hood or window, and shadow on the other side. The lens did an excellent job of managing the changes in light, reflection, and glare. No image was washed out, no fading or wavering of the images in the video.

 

[lufa6977]

Posting the MicroSDXC speed test results for the three memory cards I use in my S1 4K dashcams. They are the:

• Kingston Canvas Go! Plus 512GB
• Kingston Canvas Go! Plus 1 TB
• VUEROID-branded 256GB

Testing was done on my Mac Studio Max M4, using the SDXC card slot ( UHS II ). I could probably achieve slightly faster speeds if using an external card reader.

The testing tool is the Blackmagic Disk Speed Test. For Mac users, you can find the tool in your App Store. Be sure to download the Disk Speed Test; you do not want the available RAW test.


All three cards have been reliable for my use. The Kingston Canvas Go! Plus, for the 1 Terabyte size, it should probably be formatted at least once a month. I did have two system restarts with this card; no video footage was lost. The 1 Terabyte card is not supported. I am pushing the curve a bit by using the 1 TB size, so no complaints, as the S1 4K has handled the 1 TB size and the saved files correctly.


The VUEROID 256GB MicroSDXC card test.

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For these next two images, the first is the Kingston Canvas Go! Plus 512GB, the second is the 1 TB.

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Below is an image from the Help manual for Blackmagic Disk Speed Test that briefly explains how to interpret the test results. Credit to Blackmagic for their Help material and the Disk Speed Test utility.

 

[qusejr2]

Posting the MicroSDXC speed test results for the three memory cards I use in my S1 4K dashcams. They are the:

• Kingston Canvas Go! Plus 512GB
• Kingston Canvas Go! Plus 1 TB
• VUEROID-branded 256GB

Testing was done on my Mac Studio Max M4, using the SDXC card slot ( UHS II ). I could probably achieve slightly faster speeds if using an external card reader.

The testing tool is the Blackmagic Disk Speed Test. For Mac users, you can find the tool in your App Store. Be sure to download the Disk Speed Test; you do not want the available RAW test.


All three cards have been reliable for my use. The Kingston Canvas Go! Plus, for the 1 Terabyte size, it should probably be formatted at least once a month. I did have two system restarts with this card; no video footage was lost. The 1 Terabyte card is not supported. I am pushing the curve a bit by using the 1 TB size, so no complaints, as the S1 4K has handled the 1 TB size and the saved files correctly.


The VUEROID 256GB MicroSDXC card test.
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For these next two images, the first is the Kingston Canvas Go! Plus 512GB, the second is the 1 TB.
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To help you understand, let's take a technical look at SD and dashcams.
1. A dashcam continuously generates data when it's turned on. for example at a bitrate of 40 Mbit, it generates 8 Mbytes per second. If an impact occurs, the previous 10 seconds of data must be written, so this is when the most data needs to be written.
2. SD cards contain embedded NAND flash and a controller. The controller performs tasks such as ECC, wear leveling, garbage collection, and bad block handling. It manages the speed and lifespan of the SD card.
3. SD card speed is not constant. While the average speed is constant, slowdowns are observed at certain moments (due to internal operations such as garbage collection).
4. The reliability of the NAND flash inside the SD card is crucial, especially when it comes to temperature. Most dashcams have high internal temperatures, so caution is advised.

Based on these facts, we conduct extensive software trials and tests.
First, because the speed of the SD card is not constant, prepare sufficient buffer. For example, we reserve a DDR buffer of approximately 15 seconds.
Second, develop a file manager and file system to prevent speed degradation due to increased logical operations caused by fragmentation.
Third, conduct extensive testing. We conduct aging tests that continuously generate artificial events for at least two weeks to check for reboots.
Testing is also performed in high-temperature and low-temperature environments.
If even one reboot occurs during this process, the SD is failed

 

[jsmith]

To help you understand, let's take a technical look at SD and dashcams.
1. A dashcam continuously generates data when it's turned on. for example at a bitrate of 40 Mbit, it generates 8 Mbytes per second. If an impact occurs, the previous 10 seconds of data must be written, so this is when the most data needs to be written.
2. SD cards contain embedded NAND flash and a controller. The controller performs tasks such as ECC, wear leveling, garbage collection, and bad block handling. It manages the speed and lifespan of the SD card.
3. SD card speed is not constant. While the average speed is constant, slowdowns are observed at certain moments (due to internal operations such as garbage collection).
4. The reliability of the NAND flash inside the SD card is crucial, especially when it comes to temperature. Most dashcams have high internal temperatures, so caution is advised.

Based on these facts, we conduct extensive software trials and tests.
First, because the speed of the SD card is not constant, prepare sufficient buffer. For example, we reserve a DDR buffer of approximately 15 seconds.
Second, develop a file manager and file system to prevent speed degradation due to increased logical operations caused by fragmentation.
Third, conduct extensive testing. We conduct aging tests that continuously generate artificial events for at least two weeks to check for reboots.
Testing is also performed in high-temperature and low-temperature environments.
If even one reboot occurs during this process, the SD is failed

1. To build on this point, the quality of the Nand matters not only for temperature sensitivity, but for reliability. Nand degrades over time as the layer oxidizes with repeated write cycles.

2. MicroSd (Nand) also requires a built in buffer to optimizes the blocks being written. If the NAND is low quality, or the MicroSD host controller cannot handle the necessary speeds, you end up with corrupted files. Or in @TonyM case, a camera that crashes / system that crashes because the card "Failed" at a critical time when data was written.

People want reliability and no one wants to be on the receiving end of a Camera that FAILED to record the accident. You're 100% right, if the card reboots during process, the card fails. One failure is one failure too many. Of course, you'd need to verify this happens with 2-3 cards of same brand to eliminate a "faulty card". Assuming all fail, then yes the card cannot be recommended.

 

[lufa6977]

1. To build on this point, the quality of the Nand matters not only for temperature sensitivity, but for reliability. Nand degrades over time as the layer oxidizes with repeated write cycles.

2. MicroSd (Nand) also requires a built in buffer to optimizes the blocks being written. If the NAND is low quality, or the MicroSD host controller cannot handle the necessary speeds, you end up with corrupted files. Or in @TonyM case, a camera that crashes / system that crashes because the card "Failed" at a critical time when data was written.

People want reliability and no one wants to be on the receiving end of a Camera that FAILED to record the accident. You're 100% right, if the card reboots during process, the card fails. One failure is one failure too many. Of course, you'd need to verify this happens with 2-3 cards of same brand to eliminate a "faulty card". Assuming all fail, then yes the card cannot be recommended.

Well, that sentiment is all fine and dandy; however, the reality is that no dashcam manufacturer or memory card manufacturer can guarantee 100% about any aspect of wear and usage. Memory cards generally do not fail at the time of an accident; they fail beforehand, and the user does not catch it. At the time of the accident, the dashcam is most likely to fail first. No one should ever realistically expect 100% performance and perfection from any memory card or electronic device. Those who do are probably folks who never have a backup device for their computer. 😉

Most consumers buy a memory card based on its cost. If that were not the case, then all those inexpensive SD and MicroSD cards would not be on the market. A dashcam manufacturer can specify a branded MicroSD card made with a specific controller and NAND of stellar quality, with no substitutions. Still, unless they put a reasonable price on it, folks will pass it up for a less expensive card. People will spend $300 a month at Starbucks to be pre-diabetic, but buy eBay memory to save money. Boggles the mind.

 

[jsmith]

Well, that sentiment is all fine and dandy; however, the reality is that no dashcam manufacturer or memory card manufacturer can guarantee 100% about any aspect of wear and usage. Memory cards generally do not fail at the time of an accident; they fail beforehand, and the user does not catch it. At the time of the accident, the dashcam is most likely to fail first. No one should ever realistically expect 100% performance and perfection from any memory card or electronic device. Those who do are probably folks who never have a backup device for their computer. 😉

Most consumers buy a memory card based on its cost. If that were not the case, then all those inexpensive SD and MicroSD cards would not be on the market. A dashcam manufacturer can specify a branded MicroSD card made with a specific controller and NAND of stellar quality, with no substitutions. Still, unless they put a reasonable price on it, folks will pass it up for a less expensive card. People will spend $300 a month at Starbucks to be pre-diabetic, but buy eBay memory to save money. Boggles the mind.

So we're talking two separate and distinct issues here.

1. Buying a reputable card with a history of being reliable. There are a lot of low quality, fakes, and knock off MicroSD on the market, where price doesn't mean everything. Yes, people want cheap, but those same people are unlikely to spend money on a high end dashcam either.

2. Failure rate and "Margin of Error". One failure cannot be assumed to be a total failure. Testing a few cards is necessary before deeming the entire product as unacceptable (as I mentioned). You could buy the best quality product in the world, but 1 out of 100 could still be a dud due to mass production. Therefore, if your test showed a failure, was it that 1 out of 100 dud or will 3 more cards from same company also result in failure? Science is repeatable.

The point here is there's a balance between cost and reliability. Yes, the chances the card has its first failure during the accident is slim, but it's possible. What's also more likely, is that card has been failing and simply repeated that process at the time of the accident. Either way, the "Cheap" becomes expensive for those who don't do their homework.

 

[lufa6977]

So we're talking two separate and distinct issues here.

1. Buying a reputable card with a history of being reliable. There are a lot of low quality, fakes, and knock off MicroSD on the market, where price doesn't mean everything. Yes, people want cheap, but those same people are unlikely to spend money on a high end dashcam either.

2. Failure rate and "Margin of Error". One failure cannot be assumed to be a total failure. Testing a few cards is necessary before deeming the entire product as unacceptable (as I mentioned). You could buy the best quality product in the world, but 1 out of 100 could still be a dud due to mass production. Therefore, if your test showed a failure, was it that 1 out of 100 dud or will 3 more cards from same company also result in failure? Science is repeatable.

The point here is there's a balance between cost and reliability. Yes, the chances the card has its first failure during the accident is slim, but it's possible. What's also more likely, is that card has been failing and simply repeated that process at the time of the accident. Either way, the "Cheap" becomes expensive for those who don't do their homework.

OK ... you get the last word.

 

[jsmith]

OK ... you get the last word.

Not wanting last word, just providing my viewpoint. Feel free to respond if you disagree with the above narrative.

 

[dadalook]

Hello,

I have a few questions.

Does anyone know a reliable retailer in Canada that carries S1 4K 3-channel and willing to ship? I see Amazon.ca has it but not sold from Vueroid.

I know the idea on placing the interior cam very close to the A-pillar and that the angle can be adjusted to my liking. Is there any way add another channel so both side of the vehicle can be monitor?

Is there a way to connect the S1 to a battery pack and the battery pack connect to a cig lighter so there is parking mode for the purpose of transferring to another vehicle.

 

[lufa6977]

Hello,

I have a few questions.

Does anyone know a reliable retailer in Canada that carries S1 4K 3-channel and willing to ship? I see Amazon.ca has it but not sold from Vueroid.

I know the idea on placing the interior cam very close to the A-pillar and that the angle can be adjusted to my liking. Is there any way add another channel so both side of the vehicle can be monitor?

Is there a way to connect the S1 to a battery pack and the battery pack connect to a cig lighter so there is parking mode for the purpose of transferring to another vehicle.

SafeDriveSolutions. @SafeDriveSolutions

Excellent business to deal with. You will be pleased with them. I see they have the two-channel solution only, though.

 

[dadalook]

Thanks for the suggestion. I see they have the 2-channel version only. Is there any other way to get the 3-channel version perhaps buy it seperately?

 

[lufa6977]

Thanks for the suggestion. I see they have the 2-channel version only. Is there any other way to get the 3-channel version perhaps buy it seperately?

The only thing I can think of is to contact Ben at SafeDriveSolutions to see if he has a 3-channel, but it is not listed on his site yet, or if one is coming in.

@SafeDriveSolutions

 

[SafeDriveSolutions]

Thanks for the suggestion. I see they have the 2-channel version only. Is there any other way to get the 3-channel version perhaps buy it seperately?

3 channel systems are landing next week limited stock with a 256gb sd card

 

[Karagandinez]

Is there a way to connect the S1 to a battery pack and the battery pack connect to a cig lighter so there is parking mode for the purpose of transferring to another vehicle.

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