Vueroid S1-4K Improvement Wishlist

[LateralNW]

Do understand that VUEROID does not intentionally hype or exaggerate their product line

I didn't realise you are a representative of Vueroid which is ok but you should declare that if correct so we know.
If not then why defend a brand that you are not personally involved. I don't want a reply as i don't care. Just pointing it out.

Why? A lot of security could be lost, but why do that, because someone simply wants it?

Security! Having the Dashcam company store your videos is ok? No potential security problem?
The point is cost for storing video with the dashcam company. Some have subscription i believe.

It was not a bold claim.

Yes it is a bold claim. Video evidence that is independently verified then it's not a bold claim it's fact.
Hey I wasn't having a dig at the claim it's just a high number.

 

[Onetenner]

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Why? A lot of security could be lost, but why do that, because someone simply wants it?

Maybe innovate in the space made by others? I'm ambivalent about 'connected' & 'cloud' but if there was a camera that I could sync with my Onedrive 'for free' - i.e. included in the cost of the dashcam, then that would be a positive. I don't want to have more than one 'cloud' account and using a cloud providers API on OTA isn't going to be any more of a security risk than logging in from my phone anyway. That said, it'd need to be a manufacturer that doesn't outsource it's coding to countries that play fast and loose with 'integrity'.
Blackvue have a proprietary cloud system, uploading OTA isn't important enough to me to sign up to it, it's more a 'nice to have' than a 'got to have', it also means you have to download from there to local or other cloud storage if you want to make use of the recordings, removing one, maybe more steps and making the transfer seamless would be a big plus for any trustworthy manufacturer IMO.

 

[LateralNW]

Novatek processor,

Totally agree.

Those boards are they mil spec? (Update- I meant the $200k ones) General components usually can't sustain those high temps.

 

[lufa6977]

I didn't realise you are a representative of Vueroid which is ok but you should declare that if correct so we know.
If not then why defend a brand that you are not personally involved. I don't want a reply as i don't care. Just pointing it out.

Nope, not a representative, not even paid a penny for anything. I simply did not care for your words.
If you don't want a reply ... then don't make the post.

Security! Having the Dashcam company store your videos is ok? No potential security problem?
The point is cost for storing video with the dashcam company. Some have subscription i believe.

Who said anything about a dashcam company storing videos? You mentioned Dropbox.

Yes it is a bold claim. Video evidence that is independently verified then it's not a bold claim it's fact.
Hey I wasn't having a dig at the claim it's just a high number.

High number? Please state the qualifications that have enabled you to determine that to be a high number.

 

[lufa6977]

Maybe innovate in the space made by others? I'm ambivalent about 'connected' & 'cloud' but if there was a camera that I could sync with my Onedrive 'for free' - i.e. included in the cost of the dashcam, then that would be a positive. I don't want to have more than one 'cloud' account and using a cloud providers API on OTA isn't going to be any more of a security risk than logging in from my phone anyway. That said, it'd need to be a manufacturer that doesn't outsource it's coding to countries that play fast and loose with 'integrity'.
Blackvue have a proprietary cloud system, uploading OTA isn't important enough to me to sign up to it, it's more a 'nice to have' than a 'got to have', it also means you have to download from there to local or other cloud storage if you want to make use of the recordings, removing one, maybe more steps and making the transfer seamless would be a big plus for any trustworthy manufacturer IMO.

I am a proponent of OpenSource, and have coded for several projects in the years past. Vueroid could provide a set of commands for people to use if someone wanted to batch-process a task or build an interface; however, I seriously doubt Vueroid will give the 'keys to the kingdom' for the WiFi interface. They have an intentional security feature built into the code.

 

[Onetenner]

They don't have to expose anything if they develop the API themselves. As I mentioned, you need to be able to trust the developers the API is outsourced to before you use it.

 

[lufa6977]

Totally agree.

Those boards are they mil spec? (Update- I meant the $200k ones) General components usually can't sustain those high temps.

High-end commercial/mil spec. Some of the equipment I dealt with has millions of lines of code. Seriously.

This is probably why I am a bit jaded by dashcam users who want mid to high-end commercial features in a $200 dashcam. The feature can be implemented, but it will be at the $200 level...then users complain because it did not work like a $2000 feature. 🙂

 

[lufa6977]

They don't have to expose anything if they develop the API themselves. As I mentioned, you need to be able to trust the developers the API is outsourced to before you use it.

I agree, but I expect it would be a closed API.

Still, a closed API would work great; I just seriously doubt they would do any open source. Maybe so, I could be wrong.

 

[Onetenner]

Personally I don't see why they would or should go open source, firstly they're in business to sell a product - adding perceived value to that product is a cost to them (any manufacturer) and using the OSI would only benefit other manufacturers. As far as I know, only Volvo have done similar with the three-point seatbelt patent and dashcam uploading is a long way from that level of altruism

 

[LateralNW]

Who said anything about a dashcam company storing videos?

Perhaps i phrased it poorly.
To store video via the dashcam world usually it is via their servers.
The security problem is that they have control over your videos and in some cases it is via a paid subscription or a reduced service until you pay.

I would like to be able to have the files come back to my server or go to a cloud service I know and trust.

High number?

Running a dashcam in 90c ambient temp is a big ask.
Not knowing if the components are commercial grade or industrial or even mil will make a difference but given the prices and failure of dashcams in the heat they may be commercial grade.
These generally have temps max around 70c or even industrial at 85c means the circuit is running the components outside of its spec.

If the parts are automotive or mil spec then 125-150c so the claim of 90c is plausible but still requires independent tests to confirm.

And none of that is what i was saying when i said it's a big claim.

It's just a number that isn't talked about here.
Vueroid may have just put the cat among the pigeons!

 

[anu0512]

we did high temperature testing using chamber (for more accurate high temperature testing). Guaranteed operating temperature is different according to channel configuration. (3 ch : 65, 2ch :70).
In case of parking mode , if the cabin temp is 75, The S1 will work for a while ( about 20 ~30min) and change to ELPM(low power mode) , and check the temp every 30 min , and if the temperature is lower , it work with normal parking mode, if not it work with ELPM. ( Actually , we check the internal temperature(S1) whether the temp is safe for operation or not , the internal temperature is affected by external temperature and how long the S1 is working-during operation S1 make heat itself, so S1 can work normal for a while even at 75 temp). During ELPM mode, it can work even at 90 temp, during ELPM mode, S1 doesn't make heat itself, it just sleep and monitor the impact. for make more clear understanding , if user park very hot sommer with motion parking mode, S1 will enter motion parking mode and will monitor motion about 30 min and change to ELPM mode , and after 30 min later S1 will wake up and motion monitor about 30 min and change to ELPM mode , and after sun goes down and the cabin temp goes down under 70 temp(2ch configure) , the S1 will work with motion parking mode.

I've seen a lot of people doing reviews on image quality, voltage, features, app functionality, etc. I love to see real-world tests, and once I get mine—though I don't know when—I will definitely check how it handles the heat. My previous purchase from Viofo died in the exact same way.

 

[anu0512]

Perhaps i phrased it poorly.
To store video via the dashcam world usually it is via their servers.
The security problem is that they have control over your videos and in some cases it is via a paid subscription or a reduced service until you pay.

I would like to be able to have the files come back to my server or go to a cloud service I know and trust.



Running a dashcam in 90c ambient temp is a big ask.
Not knowing if the components are commercial grade or industrial or even mil will make a difference but given the prices and failure of dashcams in the heat they may be commercial grade.
These generally have temps max around 70c or even industrial at 85c means the circuit is running the components outside of its spec.

If the parts are automotive or mil spec then 125-150c so the claim of 90c is plausible but still requires independent tests to confirm.

And none of that is what i was saying when i said it's a big claim.

It's just a number that isn't talked about here.
Vueroid may have just put the cat among the pigeons!

The Industrial dashcam are entille different, we use Zenduit dashcam for our fleet its have great features with AI enable (give notification for yawning, speeding, pedestrian crossing more) with live feed plus front rear and cabin and it easily works in the Middle East heat the only downside I see is its have 1080p. The operating temperature is 70 C and the storage temperature is 85 C with humidity up to 90%. We are using it for a long time, without a single issue or any downtimes yes sometime data runs out.

Any 4K will definitely produce a lot of heat if they are to sustain 70 C then it piece if good engineering however sometimes we need to find ways to make things work, seen members using a different way to power the dashcam and the same way to do for different things.

 

[qusejr2]

Perhaps i phrased it poorly.
To store video via the dashcam world usually it is via their servers.
The security problem is that they have control over your videos and in some cases it is via a paid subscription or a reduced service until you pay.

I would like to be able to have the files come back to my server or go to a cloud service I know and trust.



Running a dashcam in 90c ambient temp is a big ask.
Not knowing if the components are commercial grade or industrial or even mil will make a difference but given the prices and failure of dashcams in the heat they may be commercial grade.
These generally have temps max around 70c or even industrial at 85c means the circuit is running the components outside of its spec.

If the parts are automotive or mil spec then 125-150c so the claim of 90c is plausible but still requires independent tests to confirm.

And none of that is what i was saying when i said it's a big claim.

It's just a number that isn't talked about here.
Vueroid may have just put the cat among the pigeons!

I want to add comment for a big ask.
"During ELPM mode, it can work even at 90 temp" : cause S1 4K turns off during ELPM
Normaly the S1 4K cannot operate with 90 temp . what I want to exaplain is like below.

Let's say someone is parking car on a hot summer day with motion detection.
and then the temp goes up to 70 temp, the S1 will change to ELPM mode.
and the temp inside car goes up to 90, and if there is impact, the S1 will wake up and recoding and turns off(ELPM)
Technically, it's true that this temperature isn't guaranteed, but it works in most cases. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[KR_OGU]

가짜 4K(IMX678 & IMX515, Non HDR)가 판치는 대한민국 시장에 정식 출시하면하는 바램이있지만 회사사정이있기에 아쉬울뿐입니다...

차기모델에서는 VIOFO와 같은 망원 블랙박스와 리모컨이 추가되면 좋겠습니다.

구매하고싶지만 리모컨의 부재가 프로신고꾼에게는 부담이네요. 출시만된다면 국내 신고꾼들한테는 인기가많을테지만 신고하는 사람들이 극소수니 ㅎㅎ 이것도 문제네요... 우리나라에만 있는 신고 시스템이지만요.

성업하세요~

 

[TonyM]

@KR_OGU Wow, you have reported 2827 occasions of bad driving?

 

[KR_OGU]

@KR_OGU Wow, you have reported 2827 occasions of bad driving?

Yes. my car Dash Cam 🙂

 

[VUEROiD]

I want to add comment for a big ask.
"During ELPM mode, it can work even at 90 temp" : cause S1 4K turns off during ELPM
Normaly the S1 4K cannot operate with 90 temp . what I want to exaplain is like below.

Let's say someone is parking car on a hot summer day with motion detection.
and then the temp goes up to 70 temp, the S1 will change to ELPM mode.
and the temp inside car goes up to 90, and if there is impact, the S1 will wake up and recoding and turns off(ELPM)
Technically, it's true that this temperature isn't guaranteed, but it works in most cases. Sorry for the confusion.

"During ELPM mode, it can work even at 90 temp, during ELPM mode, S1 doesn't make heat itself, it just sleep and monitor the impact."
........

From my perspective, there is nothing wrong with the wording you wrote, and I don’t think there is any need to apologize.
If we focus only on the term “90 degrees,” it is possible to interpret it in many different ways. However, considering the context before and after, I believe your original statement was written clearly and accurately.
It might have been a bold claim if the temperature had been 125 degrees, but considering our internal test reports and the device’s operating scenarios, the statement is not incorrect.

There is a specification difference between ambient temperature and the device’s internal temperature, and if the external ambient temperature is 90 degrees while in ELPM mode, it is entirely reasonable for the device to record an event for several tens of seconds.

Additionally, the temperature specifications for automotive cameras follow the AEC-Q100 standard, and products that meet the Grade 2 requirement are generally considered Automotive Grade.
The operating temperature range for Grade 2 is −40°C to 105°C. To meet this requirement, all chipsets inside the camera must be designed using components that are qualified to AEC-Q100 Grade 2.

Have a good day~

 

[VUEROiD]

@KR_OGU Wow, you have reported 2827 occasions of bad driving?

I might be one of those people as well. 🤣

 

[Chuck McCoy]

Improvement Wishlist item #33 came true, (thank you).
Firmware Update: January 2, 2026
Firmware: 1.3.11
VueroidHub APP Version: 1.4.0

Added 3 new colors for Text Stamp
1.) White
2.) Yellow
3.) Light Blue
4.) Magenta

 

[2Lazy2P]

New to the forum. I wish the S1 had a rear camera that was designed to work on vertical glass. I drive an F150, and it appears that the rear camera would not function properly mounted to it. I’m in the market for a 2-channel dashcam and this is the one thing that is stopping me from buying the S1.