Vueroid S1-4K Infinite - Test & Review PP

SafeDriveSolutions said:
WRONG. Manufacturer who make higher end dash cameras should work better and have settings that are OPTIMIZED.

When you get a new phone it ask you questions.
1. Do you want big font?
2. Do you want dark mode or light mode?

It asks you questions for your preference.

Why does the dash camera not have a preference to how you drive.

The challenge is the manufacturer needs to correct how the image sensor does the heavy lifting. The reason you buy a more expensive point and shoot camera is because you want it to work better and take better pictures.

I understand the point of people should read and learn about their products.

Can you show me an owners guide for an IPHONE, or a Samsung Galaxy. They dont have one because well they work.

If you want to have a higher end product it should have a Beginner / Intermediate / Professional options menu

i actually piutched this idea to @viofo in March 2025. Because most users are overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of settings. Guess what the new app reflects nothing I gave for feedback except the wireless firmware updates. I will take that as a little win.

Something the manufacturers should think about. Stop pleasing super users and think about how the masses are using your product. There is no reason why in this day and age we can have 1 setting for an image sensor that auto detects lighting as your drive.

If there can not be I would love someone to explain that to me.
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Ben... I have too much respect for you to cut you up into quoted replies. I will say this. First, I look forward to that $1200 USD dashcam, stuffed with AI, advanced processors, additional memory, and a different lens. Second, if someone really thinks they are going to get a one-size-fits-all imaging solution to cover 24 hours a day, all weather types, with the current CMOS and processors available for dashcams, they are delusional. Unless, of course, they are willing to give up license plate capture and settle for a balanced but not-perfect image... then it does get a little easier. Testers and users complain about the sky, the clouds, the ground, where the sun is, where the sun is not, the color of traffic signal lights, the color of the bus, etc, and they think there is a single setting that, by the grace of GOD, will fix it all. Not happening, not soon anyway. Well, if you want to implement something like HDR Evie or other advanced technologies, then maybe sooner. But users will pay for it.

The point is, you and others here have gone well out of their way to push manufacturers for license plate capture. Now, you and others demand an image one-setting-for-all-occasions, and you know full well how difficult license plate capture is...and has yet to be achieved. I suggest there are some folks here who need to study the technology and the processes.
 
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lufa6977 said:
Ben... I have too much respect for you to cut you up into quoted replies. I will say this. First, I look forward to that $1200 USD dashcam, stuffed with AI, advanced processors, additional memory, and a different lens. Second, if someone really thinks they are going to get a one-size-fits-all imaging solution to cover 24 hours a day, all weather types, with the current CMOS and processors available for dashcams, they are delusional. Unless, of course, they are willing to give up license plate capture and settle for a balanced but not-perfect image... then it does get a little easier. Testers and users complain about the sky, the clouds, the ground, where the sun is, where the sun is not, the color of traffic signal lights, the color of the bus, etc, and they think there is a single setting that, by the grace of GOD, will fix it all. Not happening, not soon anyway. Well, if you want to implement something like HDR Evie or other advanced technologies, then maybe sooner. But users will pay for it.

The point is, you and others here have gone well out of their way to push manufacturers for license plate capture. Now, you and others demand an image one-setting-for-all-occasions, and you know full well how difficult license plate capture is...and has yet to be achieved. I suggest there are some folks here who need to study the technology and the processes.
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we will keep on researching , and some day we will, but it will take time cause the image sensor and ISP have to support it . I expect the Sravis3 sensor cand do that.
 
lufa6977 said:
Ben... I have too much respect for you to cut you up into quoted replies. I will say this. First, I look forward to that $1200 USD dashcam, stuffed with AI, advanced processors, additional memory, and a different lens. Second, if someone really thinks they are going to get a one-size-fits-all imaging solution to cover 24 hours a day, all weather types, with the current CMOS and processors available for dashcams, they are delusional. Unless, of course, they are willing to give up license plate capture and settle for a balanced but not-perfect image... then it does get a little easier. Testers and users complain about the sky, the clouds, the ground, where the sun is, where the sun is not, the color of traffic signal lights, the color of the bus, etc, and they think there is a single setting that, by the grace of GOD, will fix it all. Not happening, not soon anyway. Well, if you want to implement something like HDR Evie or other advanced technologies, then maybe sooner. But users will pay for it.

The point is, you and others here have gone well out of their way to push manufacturers for license plate capture. Now, you and others demand an image one-setting-for-all-occasions, and you know full well how difficult license plate capture is...and has yet to be achieved. I suggest there are some folks here who need to study the technology and the processes.
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Your post proves 1 thing

You have limited beliefs

I told a manufacturer on here to build something Like Vueroid. They told me they could not and engineering said it was impossible.

They said the only reason Vueroid could do 1-2 second impact detection while parked is because they dont have a super capacitor.

So my next line was . Thinkware has 1 second and uses a super capacitor.

1 year later that company you all know now has low power impact detection.

I push manufacturers because I know there is always someone saying it is impossible.

But guess what anything is possible.

Also if it sold for $1200 usd. Do you really think people wont buy it?

People spend $99 for an radar detector and they spend $6000 for a radar detector. I dont think we have reached the ceiling of an elite dash camera.

Yes less will sell at $1200 USD.
However we have people who buy dash cameras and a battery pack for $1500 plus installed canadian.

Imagine an elite dash camera with no battery pack needed.

Please use your imagination and stop limiting what can be accomplished.
 
SafeDriveSolutions said:
Your post proves 1 thing

You have limited beliefs

I told a manufacturer on here to build something Like Vueroid. They told me they could not and engineering said it was impossible.

They said the only reason Vueroid could do 1-2 second impact detection while parked is because they dont have a super capacitor.

So my next line was . Thinkware has 1 second and uses a super capacitor.

1 year later that company you all know now has low power impact detection.

I push manufacturers because I know there is always someone saying it is impossible.

But guess what anything is possible.

Also if it sold for $1200 usd. Do you really think people wont buy it?

People spend $99 for an radar detector and they spend $6000 for a radar detector. I dont think we have reached the ceiling of an elite dash camera.

Yes less will sell at $1200 USD.
However we have people who buy dash cameras and a battery pack for $1500 plus installed canadian.

Imagine an elite dash camera with no battery pack needed.

Please use your imagination and stop limiting what can be accomplished.
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I agree... my beliefs are limited, but I limit them to the technology used at that dashcam price point. I am not going to publicly 'call foul' and demand that a manufacturer do something that is not technically feasible. Sometimes, software needs to be refactored to enable features that are technically feasible but were not considered during the product development phase. Sometimes it is as simple as adding 'hooks'. I know of one item that we found in testing the latest Vueroid pre-production units that will trickle down to the S1-4K. There is a new discussion now, brought up by one of the testers, as to the feasibility of implementing a new feature. It would be an onerous undertaking, software-wise, but we have at least put that idea into the minds of the Vueroid leadership.

However, just as you believe, I do believe in pushing a manufacturer to improve and advance their product, and in making decisions that put it well ahead of the competition. I have privately browbeaten Vueroid with suggestions since before the S1-4K, to the point that they probably want to beat me with a stick. 🤣
 
TonyM said:
Dashcams do not have an Auto mode and a Manual mode.
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Newer models lack these settings. Apparently, the manufacturers simply forgot about them.
These features were present in dashcams manufactured as far back as 13 years ago.
One such unit from our collection is still hard at work—logging at least 12 hours a day—in the car
of an acquaintance of ours who works as a delivery driver.
Over its 13 years of operation, the battery in this particular model has been replaced only once.
 
Hello everyone,
I have been reading this forum for few weeks in search for my dashcam, and I come to the point where I need to ask things 🙂

My needs for a dashcam is a use case that seems to not have been adressed much by manufacturer, but maybe this dashcam did :
I park my car in the street, it happens that sometimes my car get hits, recently quite bad (sadly) by another car.
Therefore, i now want a dashcam for recording the plate number and have some proof, and I need the buffer because if a car come fast, hit and run on the side of mine (what actually happened to me) at best I will have a set of blurry frames when the car runs away and maybe 1 frame or so just before the hit, but not the actual full footage of the hit. I did try a dashcam, a Vantrue N4S for the motion detection but it just failed.
Problem is : many people passe by either pedestrian or cars. A motion detection parking mode trigger all the time because of that. Reducing the area of the detection doesn't solve the issue, car light, reflection in the windows, it keeps triggering and flooding my SDcard with false events and draining the battery.

I understood that on the Vueroid S1 Infinite (QHD or 4k) there is a way of turning the impact detection only in parking mode when turning off the motion detection and while keeping the buffered 10s before event (not in low power mode).
Does anyone tried this ? Do you know any other dash cam that could actually have a decent impact detection with buffer video and 2ch ?

Thank you
 
bpoOriginal said:
Hello everyone,
I have been reading this forum for few weeks in search for my dashcam, and I come to the point where I need to ask things 🙂

My needs for a dashcam is a use case that seems to not have been adressed much by manufacturer, but maybe this dashcam did :
I park my car in the street, it happens that sometimes my car get hits, recently quite bad (sadly) by another car.
Therefore, i now want a dashcam for recording the plate number and have some proof, and I need the buffer because if a car come fast, hit and run on the side of mine (what actually happened to me) at best I will have a set of blurry frames when the car runs away and maybe 1 frame or so just before the hit, but not the actual full footage of the hit. I did try a dashcam, a Vantrue N4S for the motion detection but it just failed.
Problem is : many people passe by either pedestrian or cars. A motion detection parking mode trigger all the time because of that. Reducing the area of the detection doesn't solve the issue, car light, reflection in the windows, it keeps triggering and flooding my SDcard with false events and draining the battery.

I understood that on the Vueroid S1 Infinite (QHD or 4k) there is a way of turning the impact detection only in parking mode when turning off the motion detection and while keeping the buffered 10s before event (not in low power mode).
Does anyone tried this ? Do you know any other dash cam that could actually have a decent impact detection with buffer video and 2ch ?

Thank you
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The VUEROiD S1 series does have a way to disable motion tracking in "Impact & Motion" parking mode. In the "Camera > Event Sensitivity > Parking Mode Sensitivity" setting, you can set that to "Off" which will alter the "Impact & Motion" parking mode behavior to only be an impact based parking mode. This leaves the dash camera buffering content until a qualifying impact event takes place when it creates buffered videos. The power draw for this configuration is higher than the "Extreme Low Power Mode" [ELPM] which is an impact only parking mode. When the dash camera is in ELPM parking mode, it only responds to impacts and the dash camera starts to record unbuffered videos within 1-second of the impact event. Just make sure the "Impact & Motion" power draw requirements are sustainable for your parking mode needs.

I discuss the S1-4K parking mode power info in my review thread:

rcg530

Post in thread 'Vueroid S1-4K Infinite - Testing/Review - RCG'

NC& has created several tutorial videos for the S1-4K dash camera. This one talks about the various parking modes.


I performed a large number of parking mode tests and power consumption tests for the S1-4K in 3-channel and 2-channel [front+rear] configurations. Here are my findings.
  • Parking Modes
    • Requires the use of the 3-wire 12V/24V hardwire cable
    • Types
      • Impact & Motion [IM&MO]
        • The S1-4K waits for a triggering impact or motion event based on the dash camera’s impact and motion sensitivity settings for parking mode.
        • Buffered 30-second...
  • Like
 
rcg530 said:
The VUEROiD S1 series does have a way to disable motion tracking in "Impact & Motion" parking mode. In the "Camera > Event Sensitivity > Parking Mode Sensitivity" setting, you can set that to "Off" which will alter the "Impact & Motion" parking mode behavior to only be an impact based parking mode. This leaves the dash camera buffering content until a qualifying impact event takes place when it creates buffered videos. The power draw for this configuration is higher than the "Extreme Low Power Mode" [ELPM] which is an impact only parking mode. When the dash camera is in ELPM parking mode, it only responds to impacts and the dash camera starts to record unbuffered videos within 1-second of the impact event. Just make sure the "Impact & Motion" power draw requirements are sustainable for your parking mode needs.

I discuss the S1-4K parking mode power info in my review thread:

rcg530

Post in thread 'Vueroid S1-4K Infinite - Testing/Review - RCG'

NC& has created several tutorial videos for the S1-4K dash camera. This one talks about the various parking modes.


I performed a large number of parking mode tests and power consumption tests for the S1-4K in 3-channel and 2-channel [front+rear] configurations. Here are my findings.
  • Parking Modes
    • Requires the use of the 3-wire 12V/24V hardwire cable
    • Types
      • Impact & Motion [IM&MO]
        • The S1-4K waits for a triggering impact or motion event based on the dash camera’s impact and motion sensitivity settings for parking mode.
        • Buffered 30-second...
  • Like
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Thank you for your quick reply and for confirming what I understood from the manual.
I read your tests and I could not find one where you totally cut off the motion detection in IM&MO, I expect less power cumsuption as the proessor doesn't analyse the frames but I might be wrong.
I'm also heading for the QHD version and not the 4k so overall I should end up with less power drain on the battery hopefully.
 
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