Harsh
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Correct, this one - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Sma...anfrotto-and-Arca-Swiss-1568/32793155371.html
Trial & error and a bit of force.
Trial & error and a bit of force.
I suppose the Mobius has only 90deg between options to attach the cradle. The GitUp F1 has 180deg. I started using tape because I found a good supply of tape on a roll.Trial & error and a bit of force.
I suppose the Mobius has only 90deg between options to attach the cradle. The GitUp F1 has 180deg. I started using tape because I found a good supply of tape on a roll.
With three cameras taped on, it can be hard to get the middle one off!Good idea to attach the F1 first and then play around with the M1's cradle, that's what I'll be doing (whenever the narrower one becomes available).
Tape has its advantages, for one all the cameras are on the same plane as the cradles don't need to be used. A lot more convenient too if one's swapping cameras frequently.
Good idea to attach the F1 first and then play around with the M1's cradle, that's what I'll be doing (whenever the narrower one becomes available).
Tape has its advantages, for one all the cameras are on the same plane as the cradles don't need to be used. A lot more convenient too if one's swapping cameras frequently.
I remembered @Nigel also DIY a telephoto lens on Git2 before and shared some nice feeder photos, even developed a remote trigger for this.Moving the feeder across the garden and positioning the camera on a tripod, I managed some better photos with the 25mm f2.4 lens:
I have tried using the velcro strips that come with the Mobius cameras to do this, but they never seem to be secure enough for my liking. Is your dual lock tape any better?I often like to use Dual Lock tape for things like this. So, for example, applying Dual Lock tape semi-permananetly to the entire side of a cheese plate and then to each camera bottom allows for them to be securely attached, positioned and removed at will.
I think that there is only a small market for using such a long 25mm telephoto on these action cameras.I remembered @Nigel also DIY a telephoto lens on Git2 before and shared some nice feeder photos, even developed a remote trigger for this.
If we develop a such telephoto lens, will be good?
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I have tried using the velcro strips that come with the Mobius cameras to do this, but they never seem to be secure enough for my liking. Is your dual lock tape any better?
Thanks for the advice, and pointers for further reading. Now I understand why you & others have been praising this stuff, whereas I was struggling to get velcro to work.Dual Lock reclosable fasteners are extremely strong and secure. 3M claims the product can be used in place of traditional fastening methods such as screws, nuts or bolts. Unlike Velcro it won't allow for any camera wobble and it can be positioned and re-positioned precisely. It works on a similar principle to Velcro but instead of being hook and loop, each side consists of protruding mushroom shaped stalks that interlock when pressed together. I always keep some handy.
There's an old thread here that has some good discussion on Dual Lock Tape.
Here is my comparison video. In AWB mode of course the camera adjusts for sunlight vs incandescent light, but in Cloudy and Custom 1 (all values set to 256) it doesn't adjust.
I think that there is only a small market for using such a long 25mm telephoto on these action cameras.
As you know I am looking at how a dual wide & telephoto lens camera could work. However for that purpose I think a 6, 8 or 12mm lens will be a better option for wider consumer appeal.
I think what Dashmallow is trying to tell you is it doesn't dynamically adjust. It's a simple camera.
It has a presets for each type of lighting scenario that is programmed (a limited number probably of sunny, dull, night, incandescent and fluorescent at a guess), and simply detects the type of light and then applies the nearest corresponding preset. That's why Tony M's videos show a colour cast. The preset for a sunny day doesn't match the colour balance that leads to a neutral result taking into account the lens coating.
He was telling me wrong... It does dynamically adjust with changing conditions
No, you didn't understand what I was saying. The camera does have automatic white balance but it is based upon preset RGB values built into the firmware so as to achieve white balance according to those built-in pre-sets, such as with each A-B-C lens setting you choose. The ability to change the RGB numbers manually is a separate function to the preset RGB values programmed into the camera for White Balance.
Well why didn't you say so to begin with?
Jak what you're suggesting is not dynamic. Dynamic would be constant adjustment based on changes to the lighting curves. That would involve constant reassessement and either a very clever algorithym or thousands of profiles each one subtly different. I'm not sure any camera has that due to processing considerations.
The mobius is simple like a point and shoot camera - my understanding is it attempts to assess the white balance according to the lighting conditions and then applies the most appropriate pre-set, whether that pre-set is correct or not. In other words its dumb like most cameras out there. The only difference to my knowledge between simple and mopre advanced SLR's when it comes to white balance is SLR's have more pre-set profiles and so can adjust to more situations thereby increasing accuracy. However, as you'll see in the explanatory web page below, even some top name SLR's get it wrong. The only real solution is to shoot in raw. Which you'll never get in a dashcam because the files are huge due to no compression being used: Raw HD video at 1080P uses 7.1GB per minute of storage space.
https://expertphotography.com/4-steps-to-understanding-white-balance/
Jak what you're suggesting is not dynamic. Dynamic would be constant adjustment based on changes to the lighting curves. That would involve constant reassessement and either a very clever algorithym or thousands of profiles each one subtly different. I'm not sure any camera has that due to processing considerations.
The mobius is simple like a point and shoot camera - my understanding is it attempts to assess the white balance according to the lighting conditions and then applies the most appropriate pre-set, whether that pre-set is correct or not. In other words its dumb like most cameras out there. The only difference to my knowledge between simple and mopre advanced SLR's when it comes to white balance is SLR's have more pre-set profiles and so can adjust to more situations thereby increasing accuracy. However, as you'll see in the explanatory web page below, even some top name SLR's get it wrong. The only real solution is to shoot in raw. Which you'll never get in a dashcam because the files are huge due to no compression being used: Raw HD video at 1080P uses 7.1GB per minute of storage space.
https://expertphotography.com/4-steps-to-understanding-white-balance/
What camera has what you call dynamic white balance? Every SLR, mirrorless, and other camera I've had only uses a set of preset values
@jackalopephoto is correct here. The camera is simply trying to match a set of presets, which are variable.
@c4rc4m
White Balance isn't really all that difficult really and doesn't involve "thousands of profiles, each one subtly different". All it knows is to try to bring the values back to whatever pre-set is designated in the firmware as "White".