lol
Yeah.. wonder how it is gonna be
feels like this feature should have been implemented in the N4 PRO.
Plus, rear dashcams should be updates to 1440 already
I ran a second test.Did you actually measure how much power was unused at 11.8v cutoff
I think you misunderstand my intention.There is no need to impose anything on the buyer.
The buyer must choose what to buy and what not.
The reason I'm lobbying Viofo to include the hardwire kit & SD Card with all dash cams is because it will drastically reduce tech support inquiry from first time consumers.IMO people should not need to find this forum, and do self study in here, sales listings / material should have all the information people would need.
I ran a second test.
This time I got 1 hour 38 minutes of additional parking mode operation from an A119 Mini 2.
I think I might be on to something.
I'm going to run a third test.
Using the PC8’s Output Cable “unspliced” with Viofo Hardwire Kit HK4, the A119 Mini had a “Low Bitrate Parking Mode” run time of;
40 Hours 2 Minutes
Why is it wrong?I think you misunderstand my intention.
The reason I'm lobbying Viofo to include the hardwire kit & SD Card with all dash cams is because it will drastically reduce tech support inquiry from first time consumers.You want everything included and the price goes up. But not everyone needs the whole set,
After I get repeatable test results I'll make a full detailed post in my BBMC PowerCell 8 testing thread.That would be 4% extra power, except is that a different camera? And is the camera configuration the same?
It is a significant time anyway. I don't expect there is much difference between using the HWK and the CLA other than that the CLA doesn't have a low voltage cutoff.
The reason I'm lobbying Viofo to include the hardwire kit & SD Card with all dash cams is because it will drastically reduce tech support inquiry from first time consumers.
It will also reduce the amount of frustrated consumers that end up returning dash cams because they can’t get it to go into parking mode when requested, or experience recording malfunction with “incorrect” SD cards.
The current advertising / item description is misleading in terms of parking mode functionality.
This is most likely why BlackVue & Thinkware include hardwire kits & SD cards with their cameras.
Including the Viofo hardwire kit with a $10 price increase would be fair.
Including the Viofo MLC 32GB SD card with a $10 price increase would be fair.
If we make customized hardwire kits that support disabling low voltage cut-off, do you need it?So far my first testing attempt is a failure.
I think my test method may be flawed.
I only got 34 additional minutes of parking mode run time.
Interesting side note, the APP indicated the battery was 11.1 Volts five minutes before it shut down.
I have a feeling the BMS shuts of the battery pack at 11.0 Volts.
I’m going to try to revise my test method.
Thanks Nigel.
Btw, Thinkware now includes an OBD2 Power Cable with their U3000 to enable “plug & play” parking mode for those consumers that do not wish to use the traditional hardwire kit.
How do you feel about Viofo developing their own OBD2 Power Cable for plug & play parking mode?
Is that something you would support?
-Chuck
Yes, yes, yes!If we make customized hardwire kits that support disabling low voltage cut-off, do you need it?
We can change the 11.8V option to not cut off.
Dear @viofo,Also, there is a patent risk with SD card associations. If they opened a dispute with Amazon, that listing will be taken down immediately. Then you can not sell that model, and need to remove all the stock from Amazon.
How about you offer free 32GB Viofo cards with every dash cam purchase.
However, the consumer will receive the card when registering their camera to extend the warranty from 12 Months to 18 Months?
-Chuck
If they would just include an SD Card it would PREVENT these types tech support inquiry in the first place.
This problem is so easily preventable.
Viofo's earlier statement is not helping;
"32GB card capacity is not enough for most of dash cams, and our main sell channel is Amazon which has a high return rate, this will cause extra loss when users return the camera. 90% of Amazon returned products are almost new."
We want the 11.8V option, that is ideal for AGM batteries used in many cars that have stop-start systems. Also it is a good setting for lithium batteries if you want your battery to have a long lifetime.If we make customized hardwire kits that support disabling low voltage cut-off, do you need it?
We can change the 11.8V option to not cut off.
OBD seems like a sensible option, and it is nice/easy to use, but it needs an ACC input that works properly, I think not one that works from voltage. So I think it actually needs an OBD coms chip, but this makes it more complicated, and more expensive than a standard fuse box hardwire kit.Btw, Thinkware now includes an OBD2 Power Cable with their U3000 to enable “plug & play” parking mode for those consumers that do not wish to use the traditional hardwire kit.
How do you feel about Viofo developing their own OBD2 Power Cable for plug & play parking mode?
Is that something you would support?
The 11.8V option is ideal for all kinds of batteries used in cars.We want the 11.8V option, that is ideal for AGM batteries used in many cars that have stop-start systems. Also it is a good setting for lithium batteries if you want your battery to have a long lifetime.
I ran a third test with better results.Did you actually measure how much power was unused at 11.8v cutoff
Looking at the discharge graph for the LiFePO4, that amount of extra power does match an 11.0V cut-off, which is a reasonable value. 4% extra doesn't sound much, but 1 hour 51 minutes does, so yes, seems like a good idea to have a lower cut-off option on the hardwire kit. I think changing one of them to 11.0V, or maybe 10.0V would be sensible, but change the 12.4V, not the 11.8V option, 11.8V is very useful.I ran a third test with better results.
I got an additional 1 hour 51 minutes of Low Bitrate parking mode operation with an A119 Mini 2.
Read all about it here;
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/blackboxmycar-powercell-8-test-review-pp.47956/post-597579