Care to elucidate with particular regard to which cards are more suited?
it's not an easy question to answer unfortunately, even if a particular brand of card works for your camera now you could buy another and find you have problems, even the cards themselves have firmware and things can change from time to time, updated controller chipset, different brand or type of memory wafer used, more so in second tier brands that don't manufacture their own cards, name brand cards are always preferred in my opinion, even with name brands there's some that have issues (Sandisk Extreme are not a good choice for a lot of camera), big brands are the ones most often faked as well which is yet another thing to look out for, memory is a bit of a minefield, generally I'd say if your camera manufacturer recommends particular brands of memory it's generally for good reason, we use Transcend as we buy direct from the factory in Taiwan, the cards are always of the same type, same firmware version and our engineers use the same cards for testing so that we can work with known values when doing product development
it's not an easy question to answer unfortunately, even if a particular brand of card works for your camera now you could buy another and find you have problems, even the cards themselves have firmware and things can change from time to time, updated controller chipset, different brand or type of memory wafer used, more so in second tier brands that don't manufacture their own cards, name brand cards are always preferred in my opinion, even with name brands there's some that have issues (Sandisk Extreme are not a good choice for a lot of camera), big brands are the ones most often faked as well which is yet another thing to look out for, memory is a bit of a minefield, generally I'd say if your camera manufacturer recommends particular brands of memory it's generally for good reason, we use Transcend as we buy direct from the factory in Taiwan, the cards are always of the same type, same firmware version and our engineers use the same cards for testing so that we can work with known values when doing product development
Do you make dashcams too? If yes, which brand?
Most importantly to me you remain silent on the point I raised in my second paragraph? If Thinkware are buying in cards (which since they are not card manufacturers, they must be doing) how is it they can buy cards that they can guarantee will work AND why are the parameters they apply to the purchasing such cards not made freely available to we their customers so that we can buy third party cards with the same degree of confidence that Thinkware seems to (don't tell me they test each one)? Truly there must be something more than just manufacturing tolerances going on here and I'd like to know what it is. I am beginning to think something more sinister is going on here given that Thinkware offer absolutely no help with this matter whatsoever!
Thinkware do very large volume, possibly the largest of the Korean brands so are big enough to have their own brand on a card, the two channel platform they use is fussy at the best of times so card choice is really important, it's not to say other cards can't work but most likely they recommend their own cards as it's a known quantity for them, a lot of support related problems come from poor card choice, given the volume of business they do it could be too difficult to try and support multiple types of cards should they supply the product without the cards and leave people to their own devices, oddly enough when people buy $500 cameras they look for $10 memory cards on eBay then blame the camera when things don't work as expected (yeah this really does happen) thinking that all memory cards are created equally
The cards they do use will come from one of the major suppliers but there's no surety that the retail versions of the same brand will be as equally compatible with their product so they may shy away from naming names for that reason, eg, even if they buy from Samsung or similar there may be a custom firmware on their version of card tailored to their particular devices that differs from the retail version Samsung product (no idea if they use Samsung, just making an example of the reasons they may have for not sharing the detail)
You may not get anyone from Thinkware to come here, the volume they do is so large that it probably doesn't seem significant to them, the challenge with these large companies is that even if you could get someone here it would likely be some social media manager or similar who doesn't really know the product and has no ability to influence anyone with the feedback you give them so it can fall on deaf ears, disappointing I guess but that's the reality with a lot of large companies, a complaint is someone telling you they want you to improve, ignoring that is a missed opportunity
Jokiin manufactures the Street Guardian range of DashCams. The distributor for UK buyers ... http://hiniko.com
Sorry but I can't help feeling that you are over-reacting. The F750 is a great choice for a dual camera HD set-up. There are other choices of dual camera systems and many more single camera dashcams. Thinkware is not the only one to reject certain SD cards. I know you don't like that fact but you're going to have to accept it. Most people on this forum who have bought an SD card which is rejected just take it on the chin and buy a different one. If a different make is also rejected then this starts to point to the F750 being faulty, but if the supplied Thinkware branded SD card works then that might be hard to prove.Suddenly I am mega depressed. This is all very crushing and soooooo disappointing! I cannot thank you enough for your time. How come you can spend time on this thread whenThinkware can't!
Jokiin is by far the most prolific poster at this site ...Fascinating. Why do you think jokiin helps like this whilstThinkware don't?
Sorry but I can't help feeling that you are over-reacting. The F750 is a great choice for a dual camera HD set-up. There are other choices of dual camera systems and many more single camera dashcams. Thinkware is not the only one to reject certain SD cards. I know you don't like that fact but you're going to have to accept it. Most people on this forum who have bought an SD card which is rejected just take it on the chin and buy a different one. If a different make is also rejected then this starts to point to the F750 being faulty, but if the supplied Thinkware branded SD card works then that might be hard to prove.
There are many people including me who are very happy with the F750. I have used UK customer support and got great service. But clearly you are not enjoying your Thinkware experience. I advise you to return your unit for a refund and buy a different brand.
Jokiin is by far the most prolific poster at this site ...
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/members/
Most of his 25,000 posts have helped people who own dashcams made by other manufacturers. There's no tangible benefit to him in doing this, but it generates goodwill, which possibly makes people consider buying a Street Guardian.
I had a difficult choice between the Thinkware F750 single channel & the Street Guardian SGZC12RC. I bought the SGZC12RC, partly because it's smaller & more discreet than the F750, & partly because Street Guardian have an unrivalled reputation for 24/7/365 support & a no-hassle 2 year replacement warranty for EU customers.
Fascinating. Why do you think jokiin helps like this whilstThinkware don't?
I originally came to this site as another forum I'm a member of had an active thread on dashcams and people kept quoting stuff they were reading here which was incorrect and I would give them the correct information and this kept happening and I was getting tired of correcting things so came here to check it out, a lot of the early stuff was really just people trying to work things out the best they could from the info they could find online, there was no malice in the information presented, it was just a best effort from people to try and make sense of a very confusing product category to try and work out what was what
I spent a bit of time here initially trying to make sure the info was accurate, there was less that 500 members when I joined and a lot less posts so it wasn't too hard, when I first joined it took me about two weeks to go back and read every post on the site, after a while it became obvious that of the few sites that were dashcam related this one was growing more than the others and would become more of a place to find things out, the category was very starved of information so considering I manufacture cameras it was a better place for me to spend time than the other forum for anything dashcam related
As to why I help people with other products, there's a few reasons, it's a good learning tool for me to know what problems people have with their products so I can look at how we can do things better, it's a very valuable source of feedback to know what other manufacturers are doing, what customers like, what they don't like, what works and what doesn't as those are things we take into consideration in the development of our own products, a lot of the stuff we do is the way it is based on information gleaned from these pages, above all for the dashcam category I think it helps to have somewhere people can go and find information, that requires participation, I think participating encourages others, there are lots of helpful members here and it's an overwhelmingly positive place compared to a lot of forums, I'm here anyway, if I know the answer to something why not answer it, sometimes my answers are a bit brief, usually a good sign that I've posted while on Tapatalk and it's just between doing other stuff, sometimes this place is a mental break for me, when I'm in China it's a place where I can communicate in plain English so I spend a lot of time on here while I'm traveling just for the mental stimulus
Anyway, enough of the boring history lesson dragging things off topic
Well I would do but you have decided to be personally offensive in your post so I have to do one more reply. Just read my other posts in other threads and you'll see that all of them are genuinely trying to help people. I have tried to help you but you don't want it. I am sorry that you have taken offence by my posts. I will make no more in direct response to yours.kindly refrain from replying to this or any other of my posts again.
Dude, you come across as being pretty damn rude. Ive just read through these posts and frankly I'm surprised anyone bothered to reply at all.
Ive been involved with a number of projects to do with SD cards, 2 cards, same brand, same model, one may work another may not. theres a whole bunch of reasons this might be the case, virtually all of which you have no control over, with the other projects it was related to random IOPS, a fast card such as class 10 cards might have blisteringly fast sequential reads but its random IOs stink or introduce errors, in the tests we ran we actually found older class 2 devices were more stable for random operations. If a device is just dumping data to a card such as the phone brands you mention then you can expect there to be little going wrong but in some cases when an SD card is used as more like a page file, there becomes a greater deal of stress applied to the card. If the device doesn't get the desired response from card then it throws up errors.
Now I cant say what is exactly going on with the F750, but I can say that I have had similar situations, just because you haven't heard of anything outside of your little bubble doesn't mean it doest exist.
On this forum people want to help one another but in return people must also listen.
you want a card that is guaranteed to work? buy a thinkware card.
you want to roll the dice and take a chance, buy something else.
interestingly, I have developed a problem with my F750 lately, it random stops recording, the device stays on. After a big long chat with thinkware UK they have said that not only can a incompatible card not work but they also said that it can potentially damage the device as well. Now if I'm honest I struggle to understand how that could be the case but it does further show that the SDcard in the camera is not just a simple storage device, theres a lot more going on that we know about
Sorry but am I getting confused. If a 200Gb card is formatted with FAT32 then it in effect becomes a 32Gb card because FAT32 cannot see any larger than 32Gb (the clue is in the name FAT32?). For over 32Gb exFAT is needed? Am losing it?he posted results already, read from this post on https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/thinkware-f750-card-error.13136/page-4#post-245591
fail with 512gb, ok with 128gb, fail with 200GB exFAT but ok when FAT32, results may be firmware dependent so if you have a later version it's possible the results may differ
FAT32 is just a file system, it can be used on partitions up to 2TB and you can access all the space, Windows will only offer FAT32 as a formatting option for drives up to 32GB but can read and write to larger drives formatted FAT32 without a problemSorry but am I getting confused. If a 200Gb card is formatted with FAT32 then it in effect becomes a 32Gb card because FAT32 cannot see any larger than 32Gb (the clue is in the name FAT32?). For over 32Gb exFAT is needed? Am losing it?