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[Dashmellow]

Did an emergency break (my passenger was not impressed) -didn't budge. We might be getting closer to a winner here...

JooVuu might need to invest in one of those crash dummy cars for a "real" test of the magnetic mount's holding power. 😀

My hunch is that it should hold just fine except under extreme circumstances by which time the camera would have captured the important aspects of any accident one might be involved in.

 

[jokiin]

inertia will move any camera that hangs on a mount when that sudden stop occurs, will be something a lot harder than hitting the brakes though so would really only be in an accident situation, as mentioned the cause of which would already be recorded by that stage

 

[Dashmellow]

I like both the mount and the GPS form-factors. But I do see where there's no 3rd axis (rotating to horizontal) available which would be useful if it were mounted in the corner of a curved windshield etc. However that won't be an issue for most users. And those needing a special mount have plenty to choose from with the "tripod" thread interface so not a big deal, unlike those cams which have only one mounting mode (some SG models) which prevents my using them because of my specialized needs.

Phil

With four cameras in my vehicle and experience with a variety of different cameras I've learned that horizon leveling is more of an issue than you might think. Perhaps the closest analogy to the JooVuu-X is the Mobius and while there are plenty of tripod mounts on the market, the fact is that there are few small, stealthy ones to match a small stealthy camera. There are essentially no small discreet tripod mounts available that can offer horizontal axis tilt and so that is the reason for my requesting that capability in a mount for the JooVuu-X

 

[kamkar]

i have a little metal taped to my mobius, and then a neodynium magnet on the frame of my rear hatch holding on to camera.
Only thing that might suffer is audio i assume, but i have that turned off.

 

[Dashmellow]

(...ever so many times you are coming accros as if you after else (not info or discussion, where, on this forum I avoid such for now and still) )

"Knuckles" will allow screw to end up positioned at a approx 15 degrees angle increments horizontally, no?
As for adjustment horizontal axis (not angle)- perhaps you could be correct or not as I don't have camera connected to say for sure, but might be 180 degrees or nothing.

It's sometimes a little difficult to decipher some of your sentences @BMbler but you seem to be saying that I have some sort of agenda other than to engage in discussion or provide information. I'm really not quite sure how to respond to something like that, or even whether to respond at all since I'm not wanting to engage in a spat but I guess I will try to respond to you.

Every one of my recent posts to this thread have talked about my interest in a mount for the JooVuu-X that can adjust for the horizontal tilt axis and for some reason you argue the point repeatedly. First you claimed, "Hang on a Sec", the mount JooVuu offers will do vertical and horizontal adjustments. So when I then showed a photo (actual info and discussion, mind you) demonstrating that it won't in fact do a horizontal tilt, you switch to a different argument now claiming that the "Knuckles will do horizontal adjustment", I responded that I felt you didn't understand what I was trying to describe since you seem to think I'm talking about turning the camera left or right horizontally. I even went to the trouble of providing a graphic to show exactly what I meant by "horizontal axis tilt" (more actual "info") but you still didn't seem to get it. So now, a third time you switch to yet another tack claiming that "rotating lens in housing" is "variable", which once again is not what I've been repeatedly describing here at all. And then again a fourth time, you claim that those "knuckles will allow screw to end up positioned at a approx 15 degrees angle increments horizontally, no?........I'm sorry, but I just don't know what you mean by that.

I'm not sure why virtually everyone here seems to understand the concept of adjusting a camera for a level horizon except for you? Whatever the explanation for that may be I'd really appreciate not being accused of "coming accros as if you after else" (sic), when all I was trying to do was respond to your arguments that don't seem to be making sense in the face of the facts I've tried to provide.

But hey, I do appreciate your last remark where you finally sort of concede that, "As for adjustment horizontal axis (not angle)- perhaps you could be correct or not".......Gotta love the "or not" part of your statement though. 😉 Guess we're back to where we started. 🙄

 

[Dashmellow]

i have a little metal taped to my mobius, and then a neodynium magnet on the frame of my rear hatch holding on to camera.
Only thing that might suffer is audio i assume, but i have that turned off.

@niko has done a lot of DIY experimentation with neodymium magnet mounts on various cameras, including ones with GPS I think. I don't recall him ever reporting any magnetic interference issues. There are also quite a few neodymium mounts for smartphones these days too, so if the magnets were to create a problem, I think we would have heard about that by now. If they don't cause a problem for all the different functions in cell phones I imagine there shouldn't be any issues with the JooVuu-X or any other dash cam.

 

[BMbler]

It's sometimes a little difficult to decipher some of your sentences @BMbler but you seem to be saying that I have some sort of agenda other than to engage in discussion or provide information. I'm really not quite sure how to respond to something like that, or even whether to respond at all since I'm not wanting to engage in a spat but I guess I will try to respond to you.

Every one of my recent posts to this thread have talked about my interest in a mount for the JooVuu-X that can adjust for the horizontal tilt axis and for some reason you argue the point repeatedly. First you claimed, "Hang on a Sec", the mount JooVuu offers will do vertical and horizontal adjustments. So when I then showed a photo (actual info and discussion, mind you) demonstrating that it won't in fact do a horizontal tilt, you switch to a different argument now claiming that the "Knuckles will do horizontal adjustment", I responded that I felt you didn't understand what I was trying to describe since you seem to think I'm talking about turning the camera left or right horizontally. I even went to the trouble of providing a graphic to show exactly what I meant by "horizontal axis tilt" (more actual "info") but you still didn't't seem to get it. So now, a third time you switch to yet another tack claiming that "rotating lens in housing" is "variable", which once again is not what I've been repeatedly describing here at all. And then again a fourth time, you claim that those "knuckles will allow screw to end up positioned at a approx 15 degrees angle increments horizontally, no?........I'm sorry, but I just don't know what you mean by that.

I'm not sure why virtually everyone here seems to understand the concept of adjusting a camera for a level horizon except for you? Whatever the explanation for that may be I'd really appreciate not being accused of "coming accros as if you after else" (sic), when all I was trying to do was respond to your arguments that don't seem to be making sense in the face of the facts I've tried to provide.

But hey, I do appreciate your last remark where you finally sort of concede that, "As for adjustment horizontal axis (not angle)- perhaps you could be correct or not".......Gotta love the "or not" part of your statement though. 😉 Guess we're back to where we started. 🙄

Sometimes you are coming with agenda to have hormones induced proposition full and righteous beyond teenager years, sometimes...
Sometimes, you chose to ignore what's been explained in clearer than clear as two axis adjustment provided in most minimalist fittings.
Sometimes, you come for argument sake, you chose to ignore the fact of mounts and configuration beyond design or posible production changes and pile up complaint like quotes for already stressed proprietor.
Sometimes I suspect you to be behind "non freebie - bad feedback" blackmail to proprietor.
Sometimes, I get it wrong and not overly concerned to admit that as in axis adjustments (horizontally) as 3'rd dimension I got wrong and slopy view you might require will not be catered for... Or even as I checked as on hardware settings for less than 180 (and assumably 90) settings via firmware.
Sometimes math's are helpful and if where to count amount of teeth on fitting ring surrounding embedded nut you find those being 12. Having 180 degrees of opposite directions it would make 15 degrees angle change allowance.
Sometimes I note you coming back with twisted vengeance after posting for over two hours to respond to my post as when I would most likely would have been asleep, so you could make an statement as per your wishes and in hope, that nobody would pay attention to your techniques... Sometimes those called trolling, but sometimes, I try to not to respond to.
Sometimes, some assumptions are right, sometimes some are wrong, but one thing for sure if you going to try to push the buttons hard- sometimes, somebody might need to respond accordingly.
And phleaze, not even sometimes- never play two cards of shrinking violet and smart back end at once.

Sometimes I get it wrong, sometimes I get it right, but since nothing above has been asserted in pure definition, hard to understand as why would one run to complaint to mods, unless has degree in trolling....
Some do

 

[kamkar]

Yeah i feel good about using them too.

But though they are mighty strong those magnets, it dont take as much force sliding things off ther magnetic field.
Strait up pulling things off can be near impossible to do, the round one i use ( bout 20 mm diameter 10 mm thick ) 2 of those is tricky to handle, but sliding a pice of metal off one of them ( its 1 mm sheetmetal i use ) is pretty easy.

My rear camera dont move with my driving, but i am long past the time where i had to change brake pads every 3 month due to me treating the roads as my personal racetrack.

 

[Dashmellow]

Sometimes you are coming with agenda to have hormones induced proposition full and righteous beyond teenager years, sometimes...
Sometimes, you chose to ignore what's been explained in clearer than clear as two axis adjustment provided in most minimalist fittings.
Sometimes, you come for argument sake, you chose to ignore the fact of mounts and configuration beyond design or posible production changes and pile up complaint like quotes for already stressed proprietor.
Sometimes I suspect you to be behind "non freebie - bad feedback" blackmail to proprietor.
Sometimes, I get it wrong and not overly concerned to admit that as in axis adjustments (horizontally) as 3'rd dimension I got wrong and slopy view you might require will not be catered for... Or even as I checked as on hardware settings for less than 180 (and assumably 90) settings via firmware.
Sometimes math's are helpful and if where to count amount of teeth on fitting ring surrounding embedded nut you find those being 12. Having 180 degrees of opposite directions it would make 15 degrees angle change allowance.
Sometimes I note you coming back with twisted vengeance after posting for over two hours to respond to my post as when I would most likely would have been asleep, so you could make an statement as per your wishes and in hope, that nobody would pay attention to your techniques... Sometimes those called trolling, but sometimes, I try to not to respond to.
Sometimes, some assumptions are right, sometimes some are wrong, but one thing for sure if you going to try to push the buttons hard- sometimes, somebody might need to respond accordingly.
And phleaze, not even sometimes- never play two cards of shrinking violet and smart back end at once.

Sometimes I get it wrong, sometimes I get it right, but since nothing above has been asserted in pure definition, hard to understand as why would one run to complaint to mods, unless has degree in trolling....
Some do

WOW! Now here's a post that should win some sort of prize. Try to get a grip on yourself, OK? Maybe talk to your doc about a change of meds or something.

 

[BMbler]

WOW! Now here's a post that should win some sort of prize. Try to get a grip on yourself, OK? Maybe talk to your doc about a change of meds or something.

I'm not climaxing, nor have a fits, that would need to turn in to personal insults, I also have manners not to be overly concerned about such trhown at me and other posters, but sometimes spelling out, with provision for variations does make sense to keep undies on. 😉

 

[Dashmellow]

I'm not climaxing, nor have a fits, that would need to turn in to personal insults, I also have manners not to be overly concerned about such trhown at me and other posters, but sometimes spelling out, with provision for variations does make sense to keep undies on. 😉

Huh?

 

[BMbler]

Let's say working with teenagers for 5 years has tought me so much to last me the life time, some say, I could degrade to one at wish.
But there are so many boards for such kicks, I wouldn't wish for this, to avoid feuds and bad carma, that goes and comes ...sometimes 😀

 

[niko]

@niko has done a lot of DIY experimentation with neodymium magnet mounts on various cameras, including ones with GPS I think. I don't recall him ever reporting any magnetic interference issues. There are also quite a few neodymium mounts for smartphones these days too, so if the magnets were to create a problem, I think we would have heard about that by now. If they don't cause a problem for all the different functions in cell phones I imagine there shouldn't be any issues with the JooVuu-X or any other dash cam.

Experimenting with small size ( but quite strong ) neodymium magnets I never experienced any issues with GPS loggers of other dashcams mounted nearby.

My favourite mount solution is THIS

If require ability to turn from side to side then THIS one

For long time I was thinking of trying to use those ball-type magnetic mobile phones holders as a bracket for quick attach-detatch, but at same time 360 degree rotation in all 3 axis ( X, Y,Z ), however lack of time did not allow me to try this out and I am not sure if bigger ( stronger ) magnetic filed of that ball may or may not affect GPS and other surrounding electronics.

 

[JooVuu]

Thank you @niko

If we could keep this focussed on the JooVuu X and not disagreements that'd be dandy.

Cheers,

Dan

 

[JooVuu]

@Chris Hunt our Australian reseller has sent an image of the X in comparisson to a 0806 and an iPhone.

 

[Deleted member 46308]

Nice job on the camera @JooVuu

 

[parklawn]

It would be interesting to hear from other members or perhaps do a poll to see how people feel about their own need or desire for a horizontal axis adjustment on a dash cam mount.

I really can't see the need for a horizontal axis adjustment. I recall previous discussions where members were asking if a new dashcam could have a built-in level. I thought it was nonsense then and I think it is nonsense now. Or maybe not, if one day following an accident investigation the police were to tell you that, based on your dashcam evidence, your car was low on air in the front passenger side tire, and it was your fault!

 

[Dashmellow]

I really can't see the need for a horizontal axis adjustment. I recall previous discussions where members were asking if a new dashcam could have a built-in level. I thought it was nonsense then and I think it is nonsense now. Or maybe not, if one day following an accident investigation the police were to tell you that, based on your dashcam evidence, your car was low on air in the front passenger side tire, and it was your fault!

Everyone has a different vehicle, different needs, different installation requirements and different preferences. Some prefer a versatile mount that can adjust for any situation, while to some it is of little concern or perhaps they don't have the need for the horizontal axis adjustment. Maybe they just don't have a desire for a level horizon in their videos as is the usual and customary practice in good videography. Either preference is fine.

When I suggested that other members voice their preference (or not) for a horizontal tilt adjustable mount for the JooVuu-X, I certainly expected to hear both sides of the coin. While it is one thing to state that one has no need for a horizontal axis adjustment, it is lamentable when the poster feels the need to disparage anyone who's preference or needs differ from theirs by referring to the opposite view as "nonsense".

 

[parklawn]

Everyone has a different vehicle, different needs, different installation requirements and different Maybe they just don't have a desire for a level horizon in their videos as is the usual and customary practice in good videography. Either preference is fine.

QUOTE]

Don't go twisting my words to suit yourself. I never disparaged others' view or preferences. I said that I thought it was nonsense. And now you are saying either preference is fine, when in an earlier post you stated that "it is vital for many of us" to have a level horizon. And there lies the problem, we are not doing videography, we're installing a bloody dashcam.

 

[Dashmellow]

Don't go twisting my words to suit yourself. I never disparaged others' view or preferences. I said that I thought it was nonsense. And now you are saying either preference is fine, when in an earlier post you stated that "it is vital for many of us" to have a level horizon. And there lies the problem, we are not doing videography, we're installing a bloody dashcam.

"Vital for many of us" is hardly saying it is vital for everyone. Calling other peoples choices and preferences "nonsense" for something as mundane as a simple camera mount is indeed disparaging whether you believe it so or not. Twisted logic never works for anyone but the twisted thinker.

And, hey parklawn, how about learning how to properly quote someone on this forum without including your own commentary within the quote? Or is that asking too much of you?